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Raise your hand if you ever asked your tax person not to make the amount you owed as small as possible.

Every Trump support seems to have only a couple of weapons to defend him with.

One is Divert.

Nobody wants to pay taxes.  'Little People'  (that's you and me) can't get by without doing so.

Really Big people (like the Donnie) sometimes can.  Hello.  It's cheating and it's cheating the average tax payer. 
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I don't know.....but it damned well better not be Goldman Sachs!

Found it...

It was the Saudis who bailed him out of this...

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/12/business/trump-is-selling-plaza-hotel-to-saudi-and-asian-investors.html

..and that's after another multi billion dollar loss and bailout just a few years prior.
http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history2/72/Trump-Organization.html

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Every Trump support seems to have only a couple of weapons to defend him with.

One is Divert.

Nobody wants to pay taxes.  'Little People'  (that's you and me) can't get by without doing so.

Really Big people (like the Donnie) sometimes can.  Hello.  It's cheating and it's cheating the average tax payer.

But the relevant point to me is.....Donald refrains from paying taxes as much as HE possibly can....even while denouncing others that don't pay their "fair share" and even while wanting to ""tax the rich"" (another Democrat mantra).

The hypocrisy is stunning with The Don.
No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

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Found it...

It was the Saudis who bailed him out of this...

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/04/12/business/trump-is-selling-plaza-hotel-to-saudi-and-asian-investors.html

..and that's after another multi billion dollar loss and bailout just a few years prior.
http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history2/72/Trump-Organization.html

Oh my.   Not having the time to read the links just yet.....

I wonder what quid-pro-quo the Saudis got out of that "deal"....?

Another October surprise bombshell on the horizon re: that, perhaps? 
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Can someone tell me what I'm missing:  this appears to be his NY State tax return:  http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/01/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html

The law says it's illegal to release anyone's federal tax return.  Where is the alleged law-breaking?

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The New York Times Paid No Taxes in 2014

The New York Times has excited the Clinton campaign and the rest of the media with a revelation that Republican nominee Donald Trump declared a $916 million loss in 1995 that might have resulted in him not paying taxes in some subsequent years.
The implication, reinforced by CNN’s Jake Tapper on State of the Union on Sunday morning, is that Trump “avoided” paying taxes, when in fact his tax liability was zero.

But the Times itself has “avoided” paying taxes — in 2014, for example.

As Forbes noted at the time:

Read more at:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/10/02/new-york-times-paid-no-taxes-2014/

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If I'm not mistaken, in his book The Art of the Comeback Mr. Trump himself wrote that he lost $1 billion.

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The New York Times Paid No Taxes in 2014

The New York Times has excited the Clinton campaign and the rest of the media with a revelation that Republican nominee Donald Trump declared a $916 million loss in 1995 that might have resulted in him not paying taxes in some subsequent years.
The implication, reinforced by CNN’s Jake Tapper on State of the Union on Sunday morning, is that Trump “avoided” paying taxes, when in fact his tax liability was zero.

But the Times itself has “avoided” paying taxes — in 2014, for example.

As Forbes noted at the time:

Read more at:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/10/02/new-york-times-paid-no-taxes-2014/

The Times doesn't claim to be "a brilliant businessman."

The Times is not running for president.

Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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The Times doesn't claim to be "a brilliant businessman."

The Times is not running for president.

The man is a fraud on so many fronts. Bottom line.
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US Tax Expert: NY Times and Clinton Crime Family Commit Criminal Act – Publish Donald Trump’s 1995 Tax Returns

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/criminal-clintons-and-the-new-york-times-vs-trumps-legal-tax-loss-carry-forwards/
Jim Hoft Oct 2nd, 2016

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Did the Obama IRS leak these documents too?

The corrupt Clinton supporting New York Times released an article today on Donald Trump’s taxes.  The article reads:



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US Tax Law permits taxpayers to avoid taxes within the parameters of the law. If it is true that Mr. Trump offset future profits with past tax loss carryforwards, he is smart in doing so and well within the parameters of the law.

Mr. Trump has every right to claim tax loss liabilities, if legit and is smart to do so.


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US Tax Expert: NY Times and Clinton Crime Family Commit Criminal Act – Publish Donald Trump’s 1995 Tax Returns

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/criminal-clintons-and-the-new-york-times-vs-trumps-legal-tax-loss-carry-forwards/
Jim Hoft Oct 2nd, 2016

Go down this rabbit hole.  Nobody else is.
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Conservatives don't vote for lifetime liberals. Vote for a liberal, you are a liberal.

Ted Cruz is voting for Trump, is he a liberal now too? 

Or maybe you're just wrong about Trump... :pondering:

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Every Trump support seems to have only a couple of weapons to defend him with.

One is Divert.


Uh huh...



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New York Times violates law to publish partial Trump tax return from 90s and speculate about his taxes

I'm sure the Obama inJustice Department will get right on that!

You Republicans that voted for this stalking horse slime ball for Hillary deserve all this, because you were stupid enough to vote for the fraud and buy his snake oil because he tapped into your thirst for vengeance.

I'll be laughing at your bewilderment in the days to come.
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US Tax Expert: NY Times and Clinton Crime Family Commit Criminal Act – Publish Donald Trump’s 1995 Tax Returns

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/criminal-clintons-and-the-new-york-times-vs-trumps-legal-tax-loss-carry-forwards/
Jim Hoft Oct 2nd, 2016

The Obama IRS did not release these docs as they were the 1st pages of 3 state returns - NY resident and non resident CT and NJ returns.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2016, 04:56:18 pm by Neverdul »
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Secondly, Conservatives don't vote for lifetime liberals. Vote for a liberal, you are a liberal. Excuses do not nullify Logic and Reason.

Hmm, I guess Phyllis Schlafly isn't a conservative. Nor are the multitudes like her.

Calling her and the rest of them liberals, means you have lost the last tiny bit of respectability you may have had left.



You decide Norm.

PRO-LIFE TRUMP
 - or -
Baby Killer Hillary

God is giving you a choice. Save babies Norm. Do it! Do the Godly conservative thing, not the leftist liberal baby killing thing.

PRO-LIFE TRUMP
 - or -
Baby Killer Hillary


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Uh huh...



Focusing on Hillary is the only diversion that might work.  But it still doesn't excuse Trump's myriad of flaws.
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If I'm not mistaken, in his book The Art of the Comeback Mr. Trump himself wrote that he lost $1 billion.

That's probably where they got the idea to go looking in the first place... :shrug:

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If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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The Obama IRS did not release these docs as they were the 1st pages of 3 state returns - NY resident and non resident CT and NJ returns.

The expert mentioned the Clinton Crime family not the Obama Crime family...there's a difference  :laugh:

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The Obama IRS did not release these docs as they were the 1st pages of 3 state returns - NY resident and non resident CT and NJ returns.

That bears repeating before the "federal tax" thing becomes accepted as fact.

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Hmm, I guess Phyllis Schlafly isn't a conservative. Nor are the multitudes like her.

PRO-LIFE TRUMP
 - or -
Baby Killer Hillary

God is giving you a choice. Save babies Norm. Do it! Do the Godly conservative thing, not the leftist liberal baby killing thing.


We are.  We are voting for someone who NEVER approved of abortion or funded Planned Parenthood or said 'nice things' about Planned Parenthood like your political messiah Trump has.

He had 'nice things to say' about the abortion mill service just months ago.  So your declaration that voting fro Trump saves babies is just more bullshiite.

Your faith is in a fraud, con man and stalking horse for Hillary.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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We are.  We are voting for someone who NEVER approved of abortion or funded Planned Parenthood or said 'nice things' about Planned Parenthood like your political messiah Trump has.

He had 'nice things to say' about the abortion mill service just months ago.  So your declaration that voting fro Trump saves babies is just more bullshiite.

Your faith is in a fraud, con man and stalking horse for Hillary.


DONALD TRUMP: CHAMPION FOR CHRISTIANS


https://www.c4dt.com/donald-trump-champion-christians/

Thomas Ertl
August 24, 2016

The following is a list of the political resolves and policy positions Donald Trump has made in support of the Christian faith and the Christian community.

SUPREME COURT NOMINEES
•On May 18, 2016 he announced his list of potential judges to fill any future Supreme Court vacancies. This list was viewed by knowledgeable conservative jurists as men and women who take a strict view of the Constitution, thus protecting Christian liberty. The contrast to potential Clinton nominees could not be greater.

REPUBLICAN PLATFORM
•Prior to the Republican Convention, some members of the Council on National Policy (CNP is a Christian leadership organization) served on the GOP platform committee. They were very pleased with the result and the support of the Trump campaign for a conservative and pro-life platform.
•After Trump got the evangelical positions accepted as part of the official Republican National Committee platform, he asked the evangelicals, “What else can I do for you?” No other president or candidate in modern time has incorporated evangelical positions in the official party platform to that degree.

SEEKS EVANGELICAL SUPPORT AND COUNSEL
•Evangelicals in great numbers voted for him in the primaries. He knows that without the Evangelical support, he would have never won the Republican nomination.
•From the beginning of his campaign, Trump has met with groups of evangelical leaders.  He has listened to them, and requested their input and prayers.
•On June 21, 2016 Trump invited over 1100 Evangelical leaders to New York to discuss policy positions and to develop a dialogue. The meeting was led by Mike Huckabee, James Dobson, Tony Perkins, Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell Jr., and more. The meeting went very well, and, from it, a leadership committee was established between the Evangelicals and Trump. The meeting also encouraged many Evangelical leaders to give their support to Trump.
•The leadership committee formed as a standing advisory council that will advise Trump on evangelical matters during the election campaign, and thereafter during his presidency.

PENCE VICE PRESIDENT
•Mike Pence was chosen by Trump as his vice president. It is obvious that Trump gave much consideration to the Evangelical community in his choice of Pence, who is a committed Christian.

REPEAL OF JOHNSON’S 501c3 AMENDMENT
•Trump’s commitment in his rallies and in his acceptance speech to revoke the disastrous 1954 Lyndon Johnson 501c3 amendment that limits political activity within Christian churches for fear of loss of a tax deduction would be a huge benefit to the work of Christian activists and Protestant pulpits. What is interesting is that no other so-called pro-Evangelical presidential candidates going back 50 years has ever taken Trump’s strong stance against this anti-Christian, anti-free speech amendment.

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
•In Trump’s early debates and continually in his rallies he has declared he has “no time for political correctness.” To demonstrate this, he has routinely said, “I do not like happy holidays. If I am president we’re going back to ‘Merry Christmas.’” This quote may seem like political pandering but his vocal disdain for the PC doctrine should encourage the reversal of the secular trend to remove the Christian faith from public life.

TRUMP VOWS TO PROTECT CHRISTIANS FROM GENOCIDE AND PERSECUTION ABROAD AND AT HOME
•Donald Trump openly draws attention to persecuted Christians in parts of the world being decapitated, burned alive, and drowned. Other key Republican politicians never focus on these atrocities and bring them to the forefront of discussion. Trump vows to be a strong protector of Christians, at home and abroad.

KELLYANNE CONWAY/CAMPAIGN MANAGER
•Kellyanne Conway is a dedicated Christian and member of the Council on National Policy. On August 17, 2016, Trump appointed her as his campaign manager.

TRUMP’S POLICY POSITIONS
1.AMERICAN INDUSTRY/JOBS/TRADE: Would not his strong position to bring back American industry help Christian men better able to support their families and the work of the Church?
2.SEAL MEXICAN BORDER: Trump’s insistence on sealing the Southern border can prevent anti-Christian radicals from entering the country.
3.ANTI-ISLAMIC POLICY: Trump has championed this policy to greatly limit or eliminate Islamic immigration. He has stood alone on this issue. Islam and Christianity are not compatible.
4.SECOND AMENDMENT: Gun rights are another critical issue for the Church and Christian families is to be able to defend themselves from attack, foreign and domestic.
5.REDRESS FOREIGN POLICY: Trump’s non-intervention, non-nation-building anti-Bush wars foreign policy would bring stability back to the Middle East with much less loss of innocent life. This is an important pro-life issue. Our Christian sons will not need to be sacrificed in these destructive neo-con wars of aggression. Trump’s commitments will defeat the Islamic rebels in these areas, restoring peace to the millions of our Christian brothers in these Middle-Eastern countries.
6.PRO-LIFE: Over the past 10 years, Donald Trump has admittedly moved to a pro-life position, and he has publicly and repeatedly stated that he is pro-life. His precise position as a candidate is that he is against abortion except in the cases of rape, incest, or danger to the life of the mother. While some Christians would not include these exceptions, Donald Trump has taken a strong public stance to defend life in the womb. The biblical command against the “shedding of innocent blood” takes our pro-life position to other areas of life as in the killing of innocents in unjust wars of aggression. Trump’s non-nation building, anti-wars of aggression stance would save millions of innocent lives especially considering the bloody Bush/Obama Middle East, North-African wars of the past two decades.

TRUMP’S AGGRESSIVE FIGHTING SPIRIT
•Much has been said and criticized in the Christian community about Trump’s tone, language, attack style, and overall aggressive nature. Christians forget that an aggressive, alpha male characteristic was very evident in our Lord, the Apostles, and Protestant Reformers. Christ whipped the “investment bankers” in the Temple and name-called the Establishment Jewish leadership – “white-washed tombs, brood of snakes, father was the devil.” Our Protestant faith was founded by aggressive alpha males of the likes of Zwingli, Farel in Switzerland, and Knox in Scotland, and of course the triple alpha male, Luther. Aggressive male leadership in defense of the truth and the people of God is a Christian virtue, not a character defect.

 “AMERICANISM NOT GLOBALISM”
•This key theme of Trump’s campaign, “Americanism not globalism,” is his most important political position, yet the one least understood by Evangelicals. Globalism, the work of the unelected global elites, is the direct source of so many of America’s political, economic, social, and cultural troubles. Trump’s “Americanism not globalism” theme is a direct assault on the worldwide financial elites’ plan for global governance. Trump has changed the political narrative from the older, outdated, and co-opted. “Conservatism vs. Liberalism” to “Americanism not Globalism.” This change directs the conservative attack on the real enemy of American sovereignty, our Christian heritage and the work of the Church. This is a huge, critical political breakthrough.
•Globalism is the ultimate demonic expression of humanism, man playing God. The battle against globalism and its one-world government is much more than a political battle. Our Christian fight against one-world government is also a spiritual battle against the “city of man” and the reviving of Babel. Finally in Trump we have a political figure with the courage to battle the destructive evil of globalism. This will be the great political battle of our time.

CONCLUSION TO THE CHRISTIAN READER
•Trump is very supportive of the Christian position and seeks the support of the Christian community. He gives every indication that he will continue this if elected. That would be a significant change from previous Establishment Republican presidents.
•Considering presidential candidates of the last half century, is it possible to find a more pro-Christian candidate for president than Donald Trump?

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Trump promised that under his administration, "our Christian heritage will be cherished, protected, defended, like you have never seen before."





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I won't be here after the election and vote.

If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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We are.  We are voting for someone who NEVER approved of abortion or funded Planned Parenthood or said 'nice things' about Planned Parenthood like your political messiah Trump has.

He had 'nice things to say' about the abortion mill service just months ago.  So your declaration that voting fro Trump saves babies is just more bullshiite.

Your faith is in a fraud, con man and stalking horse for Hillary.




I won't be here after the election and vote.

If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)