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Oh that's right.  And didn't Hillary say as much during the debate?  I wonder if she already knew.

Of course she knew..she gave the order to release them...they *own* the NYT's!
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Suddenly no one want to talk about tax returns anymore.  :shrug:

I guess there are no passive income or IRC1031 tax specialists in the audience...

If you're explaining, you're losing.
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Just because this is now the top trending twitter joke...

#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes Charles was in Charge.

#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes MTV was still playing music videos

#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes AOL was still mailing out starter disks...

#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes, Bill Clinton was banging interns in the Oval Office and Hillary was hiding FBI files in her closet.

#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes. Hillary was blaming her husband's hobbies on a "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"

#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes Bill Clinton was selling nuclear secrets to the Chinese

#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes Blockbuster was encouraging its patrons to be kind and rewind.

#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes Ferris Bueller hadn't had a day off.

#lasttimetrumppaidtaxes Hillary Clinton was getting a kiss from Klan Grand Dragon Robert Byrd and calling him a hero.

#LastTimeTrumpPaidTaxes mc hammer was 2legit2quit.



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Trumps taxes ‏@trumps_taxes  10m10 minutes ago
@timrouth @TheRickWilson The heart of #Trump's campaign is the foundational assumption that he is a brilliant business man.  It is false.
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If you're explaining, you're losing.

And there always seems to a whole lot of 'splainin' going on from the Trumpettes.

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I'm just amazed he thought he could hide his returns until election day.  Trump can make half the planet sign NDAs, but he is not in control over what gets leaked.

Only slightly less amazing is the fact that he lost all this money, even while stiffing most of his vendors.  Just imagine how large the NOL would be if he actually paid his bills.

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Suddenly no one want to talk about tax returns anymore.  :shrug:

I guess there are no passive income or IRC1031 tax specialists in the audience...

Probably because even though you are throwing the terms around, no one really knows if they apply without seeing more detailed records. Chances are thought passive income rules won't apply to the Trump businesses because if an interest has more than 500 hours dedicated to operation of the business (as he would w/ Trump properties), he would be considered material participant and not qualify as a passive income. Passive income generally only applies to estates, charities, or personal service corporations.

This isn't some guy renting out his late grandmother's home here.

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Rick Wilson ‏@TheRickWilson  24m24 minutes ago
3/ What he really cares about is an accurate picture of his net worth. That's the thing he fears the most.
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Your excerpting ruined the story.  Did you not know that every time someone has to go out to the Times, that counts against their monthly count of ten articles?  Why do you do this?

She is avoiding a potential lawsuit from the NYT.  Fair Use is limited these days by the propaganda arms of the Beast that will do anything they can to silence those they hate.

Legally you can only post up to 10% of a copy written article or property.

This board is not liable if the article is only excerpted.

A Leftist rag like the NYT would LOVE to shut this place down by finically ruining the owners in costly suits that they know little fish like us cannot pay or cover.

So give it a rest and comply so we still have a home to discuss issues.

There is nothing untoward with her request - ESPECIALLY from the NYTs.
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...and this doesn't frighten anyone..that someone was able to get a private citizen's tax info...the IRS was clearly involved along with Gov officials......it scares the bejesus out of me....none of us are safe from this kind of intrusion, we have learned this with this current admin and head of the IRS trying to destroy the Tea Party.....if Trump wants to release his tax returns it is up to him, I don't think we should be applauding that they were leaked...believe it or not it affects all of us.
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If you're explaining, you're losing.

Your confirmation bias tells you that.

Objective observers, not so much.

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Suddenly no one want to talk about tax returns anymore.  :shrug:

I guess there are no passive income or IRC1031 tax specialists in the audience...

Show us Trump's 8824s for the years in question, so that we may test your theory.

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She is avoiding a potential lawsuit from the NYT.  Fair Use is limited these days by the propaganda arms of the Beast that will do anything they can to silence those they hate.

Legally you can only post up to 10% of a copy written article or property.

This board is not liable if the article is only excerpted.

A Leftist rag like the NYT would LOVE to shut this place down by finically ruining the owners in costly suits that they know little fish like us cannot pay or cover.

So give it a rest and comply so we still have a home to discuss issues.

There is nothing untoward with her request - ESPECIALLY from the NYTs.

Actually, even that's not the case for a website like this. We could be asked to not post any content. We don't fall under fair use protections. It is a gray area because this isn't an overt business, but as it can be pointed out it does have some revenue generation, it could be considered a competing news interest and not fall under fair use provisions.

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And there always seems to a whole lot of 'splainin' going on from the Trumpettes.

If you all weren't so thick in the head, maybe that wouldn't be necessary.


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...and this doesn't frighten anyone..that someone was able to get a private citizen's tax info...the IRS was clearly involved along with Gov officials......it scares the bejesus out of me....none of us are safe from this kind of intrusion, we have learned this with this current admin and head of the IRS trying to destroy the Tea Party.....if Trump wants to release his tax returns it is up to him, I don't think we should be applauding that they were leaked...believe it or not it affects all of us.

There are a lot of things about the federal government vs. our privacy rights that scare the snot out of me, but I have no reason to believe that Trump wouldn't use the government in the same overbearing way were he to become president.


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is a government big enough to take away everything you have.


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...and this doesn't frighten anyone..that someone was able to get a private citizen's tax info...the IRS was clearly involved along with Gov officials......it scares the bejesus out of me....none of us are safe from this kind of intrusion, we have learned this with this current admin and head of the IRS trying to destroy the Tea Party.....if Trump wants to release his tax returns it is up to him, I don't think we should be applauding that they were leaked...believe it or not it affects all of us.

The IRS didn't do this.  This came from an outside source.  1995....hmmmmmmm......did Marla Maples have a copy? 
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Your confirmation bias tells you that.

Objective observers, not so much.

Read the Trump campaign's response to this release.  There was no denial of the factual points of the NY Times article.
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...and this doesn't frighten anyone..that someone was able to get a private citizen's tax info...the IRS was clearly involved along with Gov officials......it scares the bejesus out of me....none of us are safe from this kind of intrusion, we have learned this with this current admin and head of the IRS trying to destroy the Tea Party.....if Trump wants to release his tax returns it is up to him, I don't think we should be applauding that they were leaked...believe it or not it affects all of us.

Of course it frightens us, none of us are safe from our personal info being used against us, we knew that back in 2012, but the only ones screaming about the IRS being used as a weapon by the Regime was us.

Now it is institutionalized and no one cares after Lois Lerner was given a clean slate and free to walk by the imbeciles in the Republican Party practicing Kabuki Theater.

Trump had to have known this was going to come out, we are dealing with the Clinton's and the Democrat Party for crying out loud.  Hell, Obama got sealed divorce records released and made public when he ran for IL Senator.

Methinks this is Trump's exit strategy and always was.  I'll say it again - Trump was Hillary's Trojan Stalking Horse.

And now the damage is done, and permanent.
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The IRS didn't do this.  This came from an outside source.  1995....hmmmmmmm......did Marla Maples have a copy?

as an ex wife and probably still being supported by Trump she would be VERY stupid to give these records to the NYT's...and I doubt she did..
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...and this doesn't frighten anyone..that someone was able to get a private citizen's tax info...the IRS was clearly involved along with Gov officials......it scares the bejesus out of me....none of us are safe from this kind of intrusion, we have learned this with this current admin and head of the IRS trying to destroy the Tea Party.....if Trump wants to release his tax returns it is up to him, I don't think we should be applauding that they were leaked...believe it or not it affects all of us.

Let me put it another way....

If he were a private citizen applying for a job at the White House to iron table cloths, he would have to release all of his tax returns and disclose a lot more in the security background check. Wouldn't we expect just as much disclosure for someone applying for the Commander in Chief Job- in the very least, the same background check as the most basic of staff.

We all cheered when DCLeaks dumped the DNC emails, many of which were private correspondence, and Wikileaks put out Hillary's emails and Clinton Foundation records.

Wikileaks will be releasing a lot more of Hillary's emails on Tuesday. Are we supposed to be disturbed or cheer her private correspondence released.

Remember Clinton Foundation financial records were released just like this, and we cheered that.  You can't get it both ways. Either we want the light shining on all of it or none of it.

The fact of the matter is these are no longer private citizens, they are applying for the very public job, and the most important job, and both of them have been trying to hide information that you or I would be required to release if we were applying for far less.


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Show us Trump's 8824s for the years in question, so that we may test your theory.

Tax law isn't theory, its law.  :shrug:

Trump uses the law to minimize his payment of taxes...in other news water is wet.

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This is a NY state tax return. Not a federal return.

Another headline:  Trump had no net income for 20 years.

Or this:

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Patrick Ruffini ‏@PatrickRuffini  1h1 hour ago
Someone earning minimum wage for 18 years straight would have generated $264,600 more in income than Donald Trump.
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Read the Trump campaign's response to this release.  There was no denial of the factual points of the NY Times article.

Whoa..why don't you take a few deep breaths and calm yourself down, its Sat. night for Pete's sake.

The really important stuff doesn't come out until 3am anyway :laugh:

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Btw if Trump's loss was big enough to avoid paying taxes for 20 years, he had no tax incentive to give money to charity.
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