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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #475 on: September 24, 2016, 10:17:02 pm »
I will add they were in different Companies...Mike was in Aviation....he was the 1sgt for a Chinook Co...he traveled all over Iraq checking on his men scattered everywhere...even flew Paul Bremer around a few times...

When he was at Campbell I told him to go check on musiclady's son where the were both waiting to be deployed for the invasion......poor kid had no idea why a 1sgt was looking for him...lol

LOL!  Well, it was a BIG deal to his Mom at home to know that a fine 1sgt was looking for her little boy.  ^-^

Yes.......... different companies, and different ranks for sure!  Eric got to be a staff sergeant before he got home, but no more than that before he was discharged.

I remember seeing your photos of Mike getting his Bronze Star in that first deployment.  When did he get it?  2003 or 2004?
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« Reply #476 on: September 24, 2016, 10:18:40 pm »
Anybody remember 2005 era Free Republic? Saying anything even remotely unflattering about the Iraq war was an insta-zot from JR and you were called defeatest, appeaser etc.

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« Reply #477 on: September 24, 2016, 10:19:00 pm »
Then, there's something sinister going on here.

When certain Trump supporters view the forum as "guests", the site is lightening fast....the way it's supposed to be.

However, when said Trump supporters....myself included...log on, it takes literally more than a minute for any page to load.

IOW, it can't be the IP address...because in guest mode it works the way it's supposed to.

So tell us....has a certain backroom adversary whose name begins with "O" been manipulating said accounts?   Has he enabled something that repeatedly churns...if that's the correct term....making using the forum a very unpleasant experience?

Because I know damned full well not everybody can be experiencing this...otherwise you'd have a riot on your hands.

Pray tell?   :shrug:

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« Reply #478 on: September 24, 2016, 10:19:14 pm »
NeoConservatism is not Conservatism.
It began in Democrats less than enamored of the shift therein toward hard leftism.
It resides in residual fashion, since about the late 60's, in the moderate wing of the Republican Party (Bushes, McCain, Dole), and is effectively the interface of 3rd-way (right wing) socialism in the Republican party. Liberal Christian moral base, military expansionism, Big government... Pays lip service only to Christian conservatism, Constitutional conservatism, and fiscal conservatism. Talks the talk, but inevitably strays far from the walk.

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

Oddly enough, those who back Trump largely embrace NeoConservatism on the issues, while accusing others of the term, with a good bit of antisemitism thrown in... Anti-semitism being an aberration, since neoconservatism is pro-Jewish in it's origins (Strauss).

Whoa, now my head's spinning.  Glad I decided to go for the Jack early today.... :drunk:
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« Reply #479 on: September 24, 2016, 10:20:36 pm »
That was very nice of you and your husband.  I'm glad everyone returned safely.  How scary that must be.

Awful.  One time Eric's base was rocketed and there were fatalities, and I was quietly panicked.  It was through some of the good folks at FR that I got a contact e-mail and found out that I couldn't be told who was on the casualty list, but I could be told that he wasn't on it.  I sobbed with relief!

We found out later that he was in the mess hall when it got hit and he found out he wasn't afraid.  He helped get people out from under the tables, and he knew the guys who were killed.

Tough for a 19 year old.....
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« Reply #480 on: September 24, 2016, 10:21:21 pm »
That was very nice of you and your husband.  I'm glad everyone returned safely.  How scary that must be.

Yeah it is scary....even scarier when Mike and my son Jon were over there again in 07...again different Co's again...son was MP's

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« Reply #481 on: September 24, 2016, 10:24:46 pm »
Awful.  One time Eric's base was rocketed and there were fatalities, and I was quietly panicked.  It was through some of the good folks at FR that I got a contact e-mail and found out that I couldn't be told who was on the casualty list, but I could be told that he wasn't on it.  I sobbed with relief!

We found out later that he was in the mess hall when it got hit and he found out he wasn't afraid.  He helped get people out from under the tables, and he knew the guys who were killed.

Tough for a 19 year old.....

Yeah they were taking the wounded and casualties to Anaconda where Mike was...he was able to check the lists to see if Eric was on it...emailed me to say no and I let you know on FR...what a time....
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« Reply #482 on: September 24, 2016, 10:25:49 pm »
I need a drink now....lol
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« Reply #483 on: September 24, 2016, 10:28:36 pm »
That matches my understanding of the progression, right or wrong.    Also the early definition was very pro international military intervention, I think.  So in that way the Trumpsters differ.  Other than that they are very similar.

Right - what I meant by military expansionism... I should have added that they have been the main progenitors of Globalism, which the more communist Democrats are more than happy to carry along... The only difference being that 3rd-way likes a sort of global league of nations, which is a nice whistlestop for the global communist agenda.

Inevitably, it all winds up in the same place eventually.

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« Reply #484 on: September 24, 2016, 10:29:33 pm »
You know it is a great thread when it gets hijacked by the boss. Alrighty then. Going into Iraq was the height of stupidity.  I bet if they would have tried to institute the draft ole Teddy baby would have run back to his home country to avoid it.
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« Reply #485 on: September 24, 2016, 10:38:28 pm »
I do not think it was stupid.  I think it is stupid to forget what we knew and what we didn't know at the time, as well as to forget what a vile monster Saddam was.  Remember the Iraqis celebrating their freedom and all the pro-America sentiment at the time?  I do.  Sure there was also anti sentiment, but for the most part it was a success until Obama came along and pulled out mindlessly.

Well, if you look at it from my perspective on islam it was worse than stupid. And we didn't leave mindlessly. There was absolutely no point in renewing SOFA. My nephew was one of the Leavenworth 10.  Saddam was a vile monster how?
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« Reply #486 on: September 24, 2016, 10:44:05 pm »
/snicker

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No, No, No, No, No!!!!

There's something sinister going on here.!!!!

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« Reply #487 on: September 24, 2016, 10:44:32 pm »
The whole Iraq war was to appease the Bush Crime Family's Saudi pals. Nothing more.

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« Reply #488 on: September 24, 2016, 10:45:52 pm »
To me the war gave us Obama, which gave us Trump.

If conservatism was to continue down the same trend towards endless, unwinnable wars that do not involve us, I would either switch sides or go libertarian, permanently.
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« Reply #489 on: September 24, 2016, 10:46:16 pm »
You know it is a great thread when it gets hijacked by the boss. Alrighty then. Going into Iraq was the height of stupidity.  I bet if they would have tried to institute the draft ole Teddy baby would have run back to his home country to avoid it.

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« Reply #490 on: September 24, 2016, 10:48:33 pm »
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« Reply #491 on: September 24, 2016, 10:50:35 pm »
Well, if you look at it from my perspective on islam it was worse than stupid. And we didn't leave mindlessly. There was absolutely no point in renewing SOFA. My nephew was one of the Leavenworth 10.  Saddam was a vile monster how?

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« Reply #492 on: September 24, 2016, 10:51:56 pm »
I realize Saddam was a bad guy and all, but he kept Iraq stable, he kept the Islamists out. Now, thanks to Bush and his stupid war, they have taken over and Iraq is in chaos. The Iraq War created ISIS.

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« Reply #493 on: September 24, 2016, 10:54:44 pm »
You have nothing to be sorry for.  Conversations naturally progress.  That fit into a sub-topic perfectly well.  For the most part I think the "hijack" charge is stupid.  So what.  If you follow the conversation it all fits in perfectly.

That hijack charge has been used by some as an excuse to delete posts (not currently...but at one time).

That reminds me.....are puppies or kittens cuter?



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« Reply #494 on: September 24, 2016, 10:56:47 pm »
I realize Saddam was a bad guy and all, but he kept Iraq stable, he kept the Islamists out. Now, thanks to Bush and his stupid war, they have taken over and Iraq is in chaos. The Iraq War created ISIS.

I don't fault Bush for going in. I fault him for handing control over to the democrats once we got there. Had we killed people and broken things as we should have, we would have drivin the terror types underground for decades. Because history shows, and the Koran teaches, they be sedentary until they become strong.

The Dems screamed and cried about the poor people there and Bush gave in and stopped actually fighting the war as a war, turning it into a humanitarian relief action.

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« Reply #495 on: September 24, 2016, 10:57:54 pm »
That reminds me.....are puppies or kittens cuter?



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« Reply #496 on: September 24, 2016, 10:58:26 pm »
That reminds me.....are puppies or kittens cuter?



(And this is how you hijack a thread.)

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OMG...wanna start a forum war birthday boy?.......of course puppies are cuter..

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« Reply #497 on: September 24, 2016, 11:00:31 pm »
Yeah they were taking the wounded and casualties to Anaconda where Mike was...he was able to check the lists to see if Eric was on it...emailed me to say no and I let you know on FR...what a time....

Oh, I had forgotten that they took them to Anaconda!  What a time, indeed!

Eric loved it when he got to drive in a convoy up there and meet with Mike for a bit (that was 2004).

Yikes!  That was 12 years ago!  He's 32, almost 33 years old now!
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« Reply #498 on: September 24, 2016, 11:00:49 pm »
I realize Saddam was a bad guy and all, but he kept Iraq stable, he kept the Islamists out. Now, thanks to Bush and his stupid war, they have taken over and Iraq is in chaos. The Iraq War created ISIS.

No.  Obama deliberately handing off the ball to the Islamists created ISIS.
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« Reply #499 on: September 24, 2016, 11:01:07 pm »
I realize Saddam was a bad guy and all, but he kept Iraq stable, he kept the Islamists out. Now, thanks to Bush and his stupid war, they have taken over and Iraq is in chaos. The Iraq War created ISIS.

Wow.  A Trumpkin who loves Saddam, like his boy. 

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