Cruz: I'm voting for Trump

[Cyber Liberty]

Yep, no biggie Myst.

The only real drawback is it is bad for my liver.

It's too early in the day for it to start being bad for my liver.  That's in about 3-4 hours.

[Silver Pines]

This thread needs more alcohol

@goodwithagun

[Cyber Liberty]

@goodwithagun

@CatherineofAragon

I'll see your wine and raise you a bottle of Jack...

[musiclady]

Oh hey....speaking of the Iraq war, which service was your husband and son in?  I ask because my uncle was a Col. in the Marines and he was over there leading a whole big unit (I forget what you call it, but it was a bunch of people).

Just my son (it was @mystery-ak 's husband).  They were Army.  Our son was a reservist whose first deployment was in 2003 when he was just turning 19.  He was in Water Supply and drove convoys around the Sunni Triangle and saw Mike there. (Mike was with our son when he deployed from Ft. Campbell, and took care of him).

He volunteered for a second deployment and was there most of 2007, cleaning up and carrying out the surge that won the war.  He was in Psy Op and it was an amazing experience for which he was awarded the Bronze Star.

It was invaluable for him, and his educational pursuits after that related to what he learned in the service. (Well, other than that music major in college.  ^-^).

[beandog]

Just my son (it was @mystery-ak 's husband).  They were Army.  Our son was a reservist whose first deployment was in 2003 when he was just turning 19.  He was in Water Supply and drove convoys around the Sunni Triangle and saw Mike there. (Mike was with our son when he deployed from Ft. Campbell, and took care of him).

He volunteered for a second deployment and was there most of 2007, cleaning up and carrying out the surge that won the war.  He was in Psy Op and it was an amazing experience for which he was awarded the Bronze Star.

It was invaluable for him, and his educational pursuits after that related to what he learned in the service. (Well, other than that music major in college.  ^-^).

My son was Marine Corps Reservist, called up in 2003, 2 months before graduating from College.  He turned 22 while he was in Iraq.  Had to come back and do the whole last semester all over again.  I believe like you that the experience was invaluable for him. 

[Fantom]

It's too early in the day for it to start being bad for my liver.  That's in about 3-4 hours.

I go to bed in about 4 hours, get up at 5 in the 'Mornin'.  Ask Rat.. he was up this mornin' too. Besides, it is always happy hour in some time zone.

[Silver Pines]

@CatherineofAragon

I'll see your wine and raise you a bottle of Jack...

@Cyber Liberty

Dude, I'm a lightweight----two glasses of wine, tops.  The hard stuff would put me in the hospital, lol.

[Cyber Liberty]

I go to bed in about 4 hours, get up at 5 in the 'Mornin'.  Ask Rat.. he was up this mornin' too. Besides, it is always happy hour in some time zone.

Aw, screw it.  I was going to wait for baseball, but I'm gonna go get me some Jack....

[musiclady]

My son was Marine Corps Reservist, called up in 2003, 2 months before graduating from College.  He turned 22 while he was in Iraq.  Had to come back and do the whole last semester all over again.  I believe like you that the experience was invaluable for him.

It really was, invaluable in growth and maturity, as well as invaluable experience.

Our son went right out of HS to basic training, then on to AIT in the fall and deployment after that, so he didn't get to college until after he came home a year and a half later in the spring of 2004.

He was a freshman, but was in the dorm with juniors, but what a contrast between his maturity and theirs!  That taught him a lot as well!

[musiclady]

No, I think that was its original meaning.  Many of us (me included) just didn't recognize it for what it was.

You know, you may be right about that.

Maybe it was always an anti-Semite pejorative and I didn't see it either.

It most definitely is now, though, and every time we see it here, we know exactly where the poster is coming from.

[bigheadfred]

I am sorry for the slow server....the slowness is sporadic and we are working on the problem...we may have to upgrade to a dedicated server....fingers crossed that the techies can figure this out.......if anyone is knitting I could use some booties while sitting here at the computer.. :nometalk:

Booties next. I have some kitchen mitts ready. Perfect for handling hotheads. Failing that you can always use them to gently beat them about the face and ears. You know--use them to blow off a little steam.

[roamer_1]

NeoConservatism is not Conservatism.
It began in Democrats less than enamored of the shift therein toward hard leftism.
It resides in residual fashion, since about the late 60's, in the moderate wing of the Republican Party (Bushes, McCain, Dole), and is effectively the interface of 3rd-way (right wing) socialism in the Republican party. Liberal Christian moral base, military expansionism, Big government... Pays lip service only to Christian conservatism, Constitutional conservatism, and fiscal conservatism. Talks the talk, but inevitably strays far from the walk.

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

Oddly enough, those who back Trump largely embrace NeoConservatism on the issues, while accusing others of the term, with a good bit of antisemitism thrown in... Anti-semitism being an aberration, since neoconservatism is pro-Jewish in it's origins (Strauss).

[bigheadfred]

What is a liver and where can I find one?

[montanajoe]

This is an 10 year old article explaining Neoconservativism from a British point of view before it was corrupted, fairly accurate I think.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-big-question-what-is-neo-conservatism-and-how-influential-is-it-today-415637.html

I'm a big Rummy fan and agree with the philosophy as he practiced it.

[ConstitutionRose]

I am sorry for the slow server....the slowness is sporadic and we are working on the problem...we may have to upgrade to a dedicated server....fingers crossed that the techies can figure this out.......if anyone is knitting I could use some booties while sitting here at the computer.. :nometalk:

Oh for pete's sake.  Some of the page changes are a little slow some of the time.  I always attribute it to Internet speed, not to the servers.  Such a bunch of whiners.  Real world things are not always instant,

Computers have made us incredibly impatient.

[Bigun]

Oh for pete's sake.  Some of the page changes are a little slow some of the time.  I always attribute it to Internet speed, not to the servers.  Such a bunch of whiners.  Real world things are not always instant,

Computers have made us incredibly impatient.

Sometimes it's that YOUR wireless modem needs resetting as well!  I did that and it helped a bunch!

[Bigun]

Oddly enough, those who back Trump largely embrace NeoConservatism on the issues, while accusing others of the term, with a good bit of antisemitism thrown in... Anti-semitism being an aberration, since neoconservatism is pro-Jewish in it's origins (Strauss).

Washington dimocrats (Misspelling intentional), with the willing aid of the complicit media have been following that MO for ages with great success!

[Frank Cannon]

This thread needs more alcohol

Really? It reads like it is way past alcohol and moved on to crack.

[goodwithagun]

@goodwithagun

I picked up a bottle of Kim Crawford earlier today. I'll be unscrewing that cap just as soon as the kiddos are asleep.

[Oceander]

Still #NeverTrump

I don't talking walking orders from anyone.

[goodwithagun]

Really? It reads like it is way past alcohol and moved on to crack.

I just say no to drugs and Orange KoolAid, but I repeat myself

[mystery-ak]

Just my son (it was @mystery-ak 's husband).  They were Army.  Our son was a reservist whose first deployment was in 2003 when he was just turning 19.  He was in Water Supply and drove convoys around the Sunni Triangle and saw Mike there. (Mike was with our son when he deployed from Ft. Campbell, and took care of him).

He volunteered for a second deployment and was there most of 2007, cleaning up and carrying out the surge that won the war.  He was in Psy Op and it was an amazing experience for which he was awarded the Bronze Star.

It was invaluable for him, and his educational pursuits after that related to what he learned in the service. (Well, other than that music major in college.  ^-^).

I will add they were in different Companies...Mike was in Aviation....he was the 1sgt for a Chinook Co...he traveled all over Iraq checking on his men scattered everywhere...even flew Paul Bremer around a few times...

When he was at Campbell I told him to go check on musiclady's son where the were both waiting to be deployed for the invasion......poor kid had no idea why a 1sgt was looking for him...lol

[bigheadfred]

Oh for pete's sake.  Some of the page changes are a little slow some of the time.  I always attribute it to Internet speed, not to the servers.  Such a bunch of whiners.  Real world things are not always instant,

Computers have made us incredibly impatient.

That is what I think. 

[Norm Lenhart]

Then, there's something sinister going on here.

When certain Trump supporters view the forum as "guests", the site is lightening fast....the way it's supposed to be.

However, when said Trump supporters....myself included...log on, it takes literally more than a minute for any page to load.

IOW, it can't be the IP address...because in guest mode it works the way it's supposed to.

So tell us....has a certain backroom adversary whose name begins with "O" been manipulating said accounts?   Has he enabled something that repeatedly churns...if that's the correct term....making using the forum a very unpleasant experience?

Because I know damned full well not everybody can be experiencing this...otherwise you'd have a riot on your hands.

Pray tell?   

Then they are manipulating my account to as I often have long page loads. But probably not in either event.

So I guess either equal treatment is being applied or this is another one of your bubble headed fantasies bursting.

[LMAO]

Good morning, gang!

I was hoping this thread would settle down a bit overnight, but it appears instead some have pulled an all-nighter and have merely toughened their stands and their attitudes.  Now I see a member demanding a wholesale slaughter of other members as a way to make TBR Great Again, just like other sites.

We've been through this multiple times, and I would have hoped by now it would be crystal clear we do not ban people for their political beliefs.  Apparently not.

Personal attacks will still not be tolerated, and demanding the forcible removal of Members still qualifies as a personal attack.

Pre 2016 Republican primary, we would all have been Brothers and Sisters in arms fighting the good conservative fight for principles such as fiscal restraint and limited government