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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #175 on: September 24, 2016, 01:53:42 am »
Without a doubt and I am sure that is why Cruz was certain to point it out...remember also, that it is the Senate that votes to approve the justice appointment.  Cruz I am confident will do his best to hold his feet to the fire. 

Really, everything hinges on IF the GOP can keep the majority in the Senate. If they keep the majority there is a chance that we will at least get a moderate justice(s).  If they lose the majority ... it's curtains; it doesn't matter if Trump keeps his word or not ... a majority liberal Senate can make it extremely difficult for him and if Hillary makes it in ... a GOP majority can hopefully get her to place a moderate justice while a DEM majority will give us a liberal progressive justice.

Actually you had better hope trump is what he plays to be. You had better hope he is alt-right. Then maybe he is a non-leftist fascist we can one off.

Neither Ted nor Mike Lee will be able to stop ScamWowo in the Senate anyways.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #176 on: September 24, 2016, 01:58:50 am »
@Cripplecreek

CC, you may be right.  I'd like to think you are.  But I'm just done. 

They better enjoy the celebrating, though, because it's going to be fleeting.

I was done a long time ago.  I don't care who is _resident. All I've seen a Repub held Congress do is pile another heap of steaming BULLSHIT to my plate.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #177 on: September 24, 2016, 01:59:43 am »
And thats the one truth they will never be able to avoid, rewrite or make go away.

Actually, Ted has a large grassroots organization. A large ground organization that trump lacks.

Politics is the art of what is possible.

That last SCOTUS list  from Scamwow was an indication.. a real indication that trump is being harnessed.

Personally I am relieved that my "allies " are not Romney and Kasic( sorry Jazz).
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #178 on: September 24, 2016, 02:04:12 am »
I agree that the turning point was in 2012.

But I believe to say that "If Trump wins the Pubs will fall in line and do whatever he wants even if it is the opposite of what they claim to believe in," is a prophetic statement that may not be true. It may also be true. But regardless, we KNOW what Hillary will do. This is why I am willing to take the risk with Trump, today.

The pub party will give it's leader whatever he wants if he's the POTUS and they control Congress. It's not prophetic it's party politics. Trump is a lifelong liberal who after he builds "the wall" will grant citizenship to the 30 million plus illegals still in the country. He will do it because he's a liberal and the Pub party will go along because the chamber of commerce will tell them to. The Rats will then win the next election and continue the socialism they love.

hillary is even more of a low life than Trump, but at least there would be some opposition.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #179 on: September 24, 2016, 02:06:32 am »
Actually, Ted has a large grassroots organization. A large ground organization that trump lacks.

Politics is the art of what is possible.

That last SCOTUS list  from Scamwow was an indication.. a real indication that trump is being harnessed.

Personally I am relieved that my "allies " are not Romney and Kasic( sorry Jazz).

Politics is indeed the art of the possible.

LEADERSHIP is the art of MAKING things happen.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #180 on: September 24, 2016, 02:10:12 am »
It may serve him politically. Cruz still has a shot at the Presidency. He is young. Give him some more years. Rinse Publius put out the ultimatum, declare support for Trump or you will not get a shot in the future.

President Cruz sounds real good! Or Honorable Supreme Court Justice Cruz!  Or even better, how about both??

Cruz is too good to just disappear. We need to make sure he gets our support!!

No he doesn't. His strength was his willingness to stand on principal. He's lost that and a portion of his base in the process.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #181 on: September 24, 2016, 02:17:24 am »
Actually you had better hope trump is what he plays to be. You had better hope he is alt-right. Then maybe he is a non-leftist fascist we can one off.

Neither Ted nor Mike Lee will be able to stop ScamWowo in the Senate anyways.

As for Trump, I am not hoping for anything and even with Cruz's statement there is no guarantee that Hillary still won't be seated. At the end of the day, regardless of who gets in, we're still screwed.  All I was saying is things might be a little more palatable with a GOP majority. Without a GOP majority it is absolutely unequivocally over. 
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #182 on: September 24, 2016, 02:18:15 am »
Never Getting laid again.  Ever.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #183 on: September 24, 2016, 02:20:17 am »
I agree.  He blew it.  His chance at the White House just became collateral damage in the battle between Trump and Cruz and all the differences they represent.

@bilo

I dunno. People have pretty short memories. I can see Cruz viable later on. If he can get re-elected now.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #184 on: September 24, 2016, 02:22:26 am »
HAD!  Ted HAD a large grassroots organization.  I think he just lost it in battle with Trump.

Trump is not harness-able.  He is a pathological liar.  He holds true to nothing but his own self aggrandizement and wealth accumulation.  The rest of it is always for sale to the highest bidder (those who will adore him and line his pockets).

I fully understand the angst RAT... You are a good man, a honorable man. I like you a lot.

Think about it, this "endorsement" was on the table since Convention..... When Ted said that he would "wait and watch what Trump did.. then choose".

Well, Trump has done well.. did not take Christie/Kasic as VP.  Uses Heritage Foundation to flesh out his "policies". Has learned to read a TelePrompTer... not at obama level.. but well enough... ;) not to give a speech like a fool.

I am willing to TrustTED on this. And yes, Ted still has the ground operation. Ted still has me, and millions more.

Looking forward to Monday... will Hillary make a fool of Trump.... or will Hillary's left eye spin like a fly trapped in a mason jar?
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #185 on: September 24, 2016, 02:25:25 am »
@bilo

I dunno. People have pretty short memories. I can see Cruz viable later on. If he can get re-elected now.

And, this is how we ended up losing the Republic with two liberal Democrats running for the Presidency on two different main tickets.

Everyone forgets.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #186 on: September 24, 2016, 02:27:05 am »
Just Victor wrote:
"Sore winners are pathetic."

But sore Cruzers are moreso !

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #187 on: September 24, 2016, 02:30:50 am »
invar wrote:
"Yup.  They keep makin' offers they think we cannot refuse… and get bent out of shape when we do."

Nobody made Mr. Cruz an offer he couldn't refuse.

Nope.

It's more like Mr. Cruz suddenly channeled George Washington Plunkitt:
"I seen my opportunities and I took 'em!"

Can't say that I blame him for doing so...

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #188 on: September 24, 2016, 02:31:57 am »
No.  This is a "no new taxes" moment.  This one will not be forgotten.  It cuts too deep.

Exactly! Great example.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #189 on: September 24, 2016, 02:32:29 am »
Case in point:  We got more conservative legislation under Bill Clinton than under George W. Bush.  (Bush was the better Commander In Chief.) 

Clinton:  DOMA, Welfare Reform, better fiscal restraint overall (credit to Republican Congress willing to fight him).

Bush:  Big increase in spending and federal power in education and medicare.  Etc.

The separation of powers functions best when different parties hold different branches.  I wish it were not so.  Apparently at this point in history, it is so.

The problem with Trump in the executive is that Trump is a liberal.  If the Republicans win control of Congress, he weakens them.  if the Dems gain control, they join him.  Constitutional conservatism loses either way.  At least with a Hillary executive win and a Republican Congress there is a chance.

Unfortunately with the liberal leadership that we've had within the GOP there hasn't been the separation of powers that should have taken hold.  Bill Clinton took office with Democratic majorities in both houses, but Republicans took control of both houses of Congress in 1994 and retained that control throughout his presidency; that is why we saw some conservative legislation. For crying out loud we now hold both houses and not a damn thing has been done! I am convinced we are now witnessing some type of coup going on. 
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #190 on: September 24, 2016, 02:34:26 am »
Well, I have not lost any respect for you.  So...do what you think is right.  For me, Trump is a fraud and all that you listed is just manipulation and phoniness.  IMO. 

Bottom line, I'll keep my trust in you, but I've lost a lot of trust in Ted.  I have none to lose in Trump because I had none to begin with.

I view all people running for POTUS as frauds fraught with phoniness and manipulation. I don't trust any of them.
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #191 on: September 24, 2016, 02:34:29 am »
Barry Goldwater acknowledged the need to work through things, principle? Cruz isn't abandoning the party and being the lone maverick, that's principle, more Goldwater-like and less McCarthy-like.

You can nitpick at every candidate, Never-Romney, Never-Trump.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #192 on: September 24, 2016, 02:34:35 am »
Just Victor wrote:
"Sore winners are pathetic."

But sore Cruzers are moreso !

You see, what these newbees here don't get is that Trump supporters have put up with their insults and dog-pack attacks for 15 months.

Today was only day one of payback....

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #193 on: September 24, 2016, 02:34:42 am »
Just Victor wrote:
"Sore winners are pathetic."

But sore Cruzers are moreso !

Thats the difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives get pissed when one of their own sells them out to a liberal. Liberals just adopt the current truth and forget how badly they trashed their new convert less than 24 hours ago as Lyin' Ted.' The "Canadian". And his "Globalist Goldman Sachs NWO Wife."

So the record now shows that by their very own words, Trumpers embrace the support of globalist liars who arent even Americans.

who knew?

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #194 on: September 24, 2016, 02:37:13 am »
You see, what these newbees here don't get is that Trump supporters have put up with their insults and dog-pack attacks for 15 months.

Today was only day one of payback....

Better hope you brought a couple ampules of Testosterone there Dr. Schlock. You'll need to start shooting it up.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #195 on: September 24, 2016, 02:38:39 am »
You see this, right?  This is what Trump and his supporters are like when a NeverTrump changes his mind---they're greeted with total contempt.

One more confirmation that NeverTrump is the right path to take.

This entire thread is confirmation that staying as far away from Trump and his bully crew and their ugly insults, is the right thing to do.

On election day, my conscience will be clear in NOT voting for either NY Leftist........ even the debauched, corrupt guy claiming to be a Republican.


I really do wish these TOS nasties would stay there with the other nasties where they belong.....

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #196 on: September 24, 2016, 02:40:43 am »
You see, what these newbees here don't get is that Trump supporters have put up with their insults and dog-pack attacks for 15 months.

Today was only day one of payback....

Oh really....no matter what happens  with this election there isn't going to be any *payback* here...I guarantee that!
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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #197 on: September 24, 2016, 02:41:25 am »
Better hope you brought a couple ampules of Testosterone there Dr. Schlock. You'll need to start shooting it up.

@Norm Lenhart

"Payback?"  Seriously?  From someone typing text on a message board?

How intimidating, lol.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #198 on: September 24, 2016, 02:41:46 am »
Well, I have not lost any respect for you.  So...do what you think is right.  For me, Trump is a fraud and all that you listed is just manipulation and phoniness.  IMO. 

Bottom line, I'll keep my trust in you, but I've lost a lot of trust in Ted.  I have none to lose in Trump because I had none to begin with.

Fair enough RAT, yes Trump is not a decent human. Would love to be wrong on that.

Ted, well ...politics is real. Sometimes it requires of one actions such one would not ideally prefer. Some politicians do not care .. a few do.  I'd say Ted is one of the latter. Hope time rebuilds your trust in Ted.

And thank you, for your trust. You are one of a few here I have a connection with.

Like Myst said... this is one f***ed up election.

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Re: Cruz: I'm voting for Trump
« Reply #199 on: September 24, 2016, 02:41:57 am »
You see, what these newbees here don't get is that Trump supporters have put up with their insults and dog-pack attacks for 15 months.

Today was only day one of payback....

Are you going to whine your way to election day?

So Cruz endorsing Trump is "payback" for you?  Just who are you paying back?

So full of anger. 

You NEVER post any articles.

You NEVER post any references to articles.

You NEVER post any Trump policy positions.

All you do is piss and moan. 

Since you're Exhibit A of a Trump supporter on this forum, is it any wonder you've not brought anybody to your side?

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