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(Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« on: September 19, 2016, 07:06:11 pm »


The Texan, facing his own tough race in 2018, has to decide how hard to campaign for fellow senators he's antagonized for years.





http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/ted-cruz-senate-republicans-228121#ixzz4KjK7CewM




   Didn't see this posted (did a search).  It's from last Tuesday but contains some new INFO.

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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 07:13:36 pm »
'Twas posted.

But in light of Preibus's threat to republican office holders who don't endorse Trump its good to be reminded that it came just days after Cruz handed over $100k from his war chest to be distributed to republicans senate candidates.

Rince is a worm of the lowest order.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 07:18:35 pm »
It's not Ted's problem, he didn't create this situation - he was the one who fought hardest to avoid this situation.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 07:30:25 pm »
Can anyone give me an example of when the Senate Republicans supported Cruz on any of his attempts to either fight Obama on any principle, whether it be Obama care or anything else?

The senate and the "party" fought him tooth and nail from the day he got to Washington because he would not blend in and become a good little senator from Texas and do what they told him to do.

They can go to hell and I, as well as many other Texans, will support him financially and with our votes the next time he runs and I can damn well guarantee he will be re-elected and once again will give them hell.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 07:37:30 pm »
   Contrast the TWO Tea party darlings of Rubio and Cruz.  Cruz was a bug UP their A$$ most always, Rubio, well Gang of 8. 

   And who does Sarah Palin and the Trumpsters  hate worse (she campaigned for both)?

   Screw the GOP, and that ol mule they rode in on!
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2016, 07:38:11 pm »
Quote from: biff on September 19, 2016, 07:30:25 pm
They can go to hell and I, as well as many other Texans, will support him financially and with our votes the next time he runs and I can damn well guarantee he will be re-elected and once again will give them hell.

right on.

Ted C will have no problem raising the money he needs to campaign with, I hear he has $20 million in political funds leftover from the primaries.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2016, 07:44:24 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on September 19, 2016, 07:13:36 pm
'Twas posted.

But in light of Preibus's threat to republican office holders who don't endorse Trump its good to be reminded that it came just days after Cruz handed over $100k from his war chest to be distributed to republicans senate candidates.

Rince is a worm of the lowest order.

He and the current republican "leadership" in Washington have killed the party!
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2016, 07:49:41 pm »
Quote from: biff on September 19, 2016, 07:30:25 pm
Can anyone give me an example of when the Senate Republicans supported Cruz on any of his attempts to either fight Obama on any principle, whether it be Obama care or anything else?

The senate and the "party" fought him tooth and nail from the day he got to Washington because he would not blend in and become a good little senator from Texas and do what they told him to do.

They can go to hell and I, as well as many other Texans, will support him financially and with our votes the next time he runs and I can damn well guarantee he will be re-elected and once again will give them hell.

The House and Senate were able to make big spending cuts. Cruz did nothing special. He did cost tax payers millions.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2016, 07:55:57 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on September 19, 2016, 07:49:41 pm
The House and Senate were able to make big spending cuts. Cruz did nothing special. He did cost tax payers millions.

And mindless drivel posts like that confirm that you are a Trump cheerleader,  which automatically makes you a Leftist Statist.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2016, 07:57:33 pm »
Quote from: biff on September 19, 2016, 07:30:25 pm
Can anyone give me an example of when the Senate Republicans supported Cruz on any of his attempts to either fight Obama on any principle, whether it be Obama care or anything else?

The senate and the "party" fought him tooth and nail from the day he got to Washington because he would not blend in and become a good little senator from Texas and do what they told him to do.

They can go to hell and I, as well as many other Texans, will support him financially and with our votes the next time he runs and I can damn well guarantee he will be re-elected and once again will give them hell.

So Politico says Ted's going to have a tough race in 2018? I'll be flying the Gonzales flag in honor of Ted during the primary season.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2016, 08:02:07 pm »
   @Frank Cannon If you would stop arguing with @TomSea, I could go back to never seeing his drivel again.

   PS:  It bothers me that 'Canon' appears to have fallen down and can't get up, I'm beginning to think that maybe 'You don't need another Drink'.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2016, 08:17:02 pm »
Quote from: geronl on September 19, 2016, 07:18:35 pm
It's not Ted's problem, he didn't create this situation - he was the one who fought hardest to avoid this situation.

 :amen:

He not only fought in the primaries, but also during his years of service in the Senate. He has always been a clear voice for the direction the Pub party should go. We are where we are today because the elites in the Pub party didn't listen to Sen Cruz, but instead undercut him at every opportunity. Trump is just a reflection of the anger people feel for not being represented by those they elected to represent them.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2016, 08:17:37 pm »
A poll has already come out showing Rick Perry to be preferred by Texans over Cruz in a Senate run in 2018.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/perry-cruz-senate-2018/2016/08/18/id/744174/

Be the renegade and let's see where that gets you.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2016, 08:27:13 pm »
No problem for the "principled" Cruz to have a rally with Trump, be allies with Trump, move his immigration stance closer to Trump.  So, Cruz was fighting harder against Trump than anyone? Yeah, we see that.

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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2016, 08:35:04 pm »
Quote from: biff on September 19, 2016, 07:30:25 pm
Can anyone give me an example of when the Senate Republicans supported Cruz on any of his attempts to either fight Obama on any principle, whether it be Obama care or anything else?

The senate and the "party" fought him tooth and nail from the day he got to Washington because he would not blend in and become a good little senator from Texas and do what they told him to do.

They can go to hell and I, as well as many other Texans, will support him financially and with our votes the next time he runs and I can damn well guarantee he will be re-elected and once again will give them hell.

Hell yeah!

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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2016, 08:36:33 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on September 19, 2016, 08:27:13 pm
No problem for the "principled" Cruz to have a rally with Trump, be allies with Trump, move his immigration stance closer to Trump.  So, Cruz was fighting harder against Trump than anyone? Yeah, we see that.



Careful there.  Your Cruz-hate slip is showing.   :laugh:
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2016, 08:37:19 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on September 19, 2016, 08:17:37 pm
A poll has already come out showing Rick Perry to be preferred by Texans over Cruz in a Senate run in 2018.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/perry-cruz-senate-2018/2016/08/18/id/744174/

Be the renegade and let's see where that gets you.

Ted against Governor Goodhair Gardasil?  :silly:

Perry doesn't want to be a Senator, not after being a Governor. Besides, he's getting old too.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2016, 08:44:31 pm »

Rich irony about Cruz hatred coming from the 24/7/365 Hate Trump crew.

#NeverTrump: #NeverRight
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2016, 08:47:24 pm »
Well,  I'm one of those who cussed Cruz (and Perry, and Rubio, and all the others) for mollycoddling Trump during the early primaries.  That was a huge mistake, but they all thought they could pick up the leavings when Trump got crushed.

Not a big fan of Ted Cruz, but, if the Trumpkins are against him come 2018, I'll work like hell to get him reelected.  There is something seriously wrong with those vengeful jerks.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2016, 08:48:37 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on September 19, 2016, 07:55:57 pm
And mindless drivel posts like that confirm that you are a Trump cheerleader,  which automatically makes you a Leftist Statist.

My thoughts exactly.

Well, then there's the quip of referencing us as 'Constitution worshippers'.

So he's outed himself a Liberal Statist supporter, despite his Barbara Streisand that he was a Cruz supporter.

No he wasn't.  No one bashes Cruz like this guy does and gets to claim he supported him in the primary.
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2016, 08:55:53 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on September 19, 2016, 08:44:31 pm
Rich irony about Cruz hatred coming from the 24/7/365 Hate Trump crew.

#NeverTrump: #NeverRight

It is right for liberty-minded Constitutional Conservatives to automatically eschew and 'hate' lifelong Leftist megalomaniacal tyrant-wannabe Statists, no matter what party they claim to belong to/represent or what letter they put after their name.

The fact the Trump militant spewed vitriol on Cruz from the moment he announced made it abundantly clear to me early on that the Democrat Leftists would pretend to be 'Conservatives' to get their dream ticket of two NYC liberals on the ticket at the same time.

But we plan to hate Liberal Statism every moment of every day from no matter who pushes it.

Especially from the likes of you people:

#ForeverTrump: #ForeverFascist
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2016, 08:57:37 pm »
And even more double-rich irony...

considering that most of the hate against Trump only came about AFTER Trump went on a vicious hate Cruz rampage and led his sheeple to do the same thing, viciously maligning Cruz just because Cruz's numbers were creeping up on Trump. 

#AlwaysTrump = #AlwaysWrong



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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2016, 09:02:16 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on September 19, 2016, 07:55:57 pm
And mindless drivel posts like that confirm that you are a Trump cheerleader,  which automatically makes you a Leftist Statist.

A Trump cheerleader that "claims" to have voted for Ted Cruz, no less!
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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2016, 09:08:20 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on September 19, 2016, 08:44:31 pm
Rich irony about Cruz hatred coming from the 24/7/365 Hate Trump crew.

#NeverTrump: #NeverRight

There is nothing ironic about hating a man who used slander and lies to gain a position of influence for which he is unqualified.

But the hypocrisy is more than rich among those who continue to attack the man at whom the slander and lies were primarily aimed, who refrained from responding until his family was similarly maligned, who publicly congratulated the slandering liar upon the latter's victory, and who has now reverted to silence on the matter in order to support the party.

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Re: (Politico) Cruz’s conundrum: Help GOP save the Senate?
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2016, 09:12:24 pm »
Quote from: sinkspur on September 19, 2016, 08:47:24 pm

Not a big fan of Ted Cruz, but, if the Trumpkins are against him come 2018, I'll work like hell to get him reelected.  There is something seriously wrong with those vengeful jerks.

I feel the same way.   Every reservation I may have about Cruz pales in comparison to my desire to kick every Trumpkin's arse I can.   At least Cruz stands for the Constitution.  The Trumpkins want to pee on it.   
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