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Trump Adviser, Son Post Image Featuring Alt-Right Symbol
« on: September 12, 2016, 03:18:33 pm »
Trump Adviser, Son Post Image Featuring Alt-Right Symbol

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-adviser-son-post-image-featuring-alt-right-symbol/ar-AAiLPRs?li=BBmkt5R

A white nationalist symbol has made its way into the latest back and forth in the 2016 presidential campaign.
Amid the flurry of statements about to Hillary Clinton calling "half" of Donald Trump supporters a "basket of deplorables," — a reference to some of the Republican nominee's supporters who ascribe to views popular among the white nationalist-linked alt-right movement — informal Trump adviser and confidante Roger Stone tweeted a picture of the poster from the movie "The Dependables" altered as "The Deplorables." Donald Trump, Jr., one of Trump's sons, posted the same image on Instagram. The origin of the image is unclear.

The Photoshopped faces include Trump, running mate Gov. Mike Pence, Gov. Chris Christie, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Ben Carson, both of Trump's eldest sons, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, alt-right icon Milo Yiannopoulos, and Stone himself. Prominently featured over Trump's right shoulder: popular white nationalist symbol, Pepe the Frog.
"Pepe the Frog is a huge favorite white supremacist meme," Heidi Beirich of the Southern Poverty Law Center told NBC News of the meme.

While Pepe the Frog may not be a household name, the meme is well-known to members of the alt-right on the internet.

"Pepe the Frog is a huge favorite white supremacist meme," Heidi Beirich of the Southern Poverty Law Center told NBC News of the meme.
While Pepe the Frog may not be a household name, the meme is well-known to members of the alt-right on the internet.

"It's constantly used in those circles," Beirich said. "The white nationalists are gonna love this because they're gonna feel like 'yeah we're in there with Trump, there's Pepe the Frog.'"
Pepe the Frog, a cartoon amphibian, was popularized on the website 4chan, and became associated with the neo-Nazi movement.

Over the course of this campaign, Trump has retweeted Twitter accounts with names such as 'WhiteNationalistTM' and blasted out anti-Semitic images to his over 11 million followers on the social media site. Some members of his campaign have been tied to the alt-right, including Breitbart's Steve Bannon, who is now CEO of the Trump campaign. Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton gave a speech shortly after Bannon's appointment linking Trump's campaign to the nationalistic movement and calling on the rest of the GOP to reject extremist views. Clinton has continued to argue that Trump has "given voice" those who engage in "offensive, hateful, mean-spirited rhetoric."

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Re: Trump Adviser, Son Post Image Featuring Alt-Right Symbol
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2016, 03:48:06 pm »
That Trump will not come out publicly and denounce these people is a sign he's just fine with them in his camp. 

Jew-haters and racists are part of "the movement."
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2016, 05:33:57 pm »
Somewhere, @Once-Ler posted a link that explained the Pepe thing.  If I remember correctly, it was a creation of a 4chan/gamer type who created it seemingly to be provocative. Or, something - his motivation wasn't very clear.

While I agree that there are racists in this world and that some of them have gravitated to the Trump campaign, I don't accept that controlling one's borders and limiting immigration is either racist or xenophobic.  However, this whole alt-right meme can be easily manipulated to....


OK, much of what I was trying to say is what is said in this essay posted by Neverdul on another thread:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,224369.msg1050948.html#msg1050948.  The author expressed it much better than I was struggling to do. 



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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2016, 08:29:46 pm »
A green cartoon frog is a symbol of white nationalism?    I don't get it.   



Also i've never heard of the D@mned thing prior to today.   

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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2016, 08:59:10 pm »
You best elucidate yourself then.

I've known about it for a few years but I've been getting a certain thrill out of slapping racists for a lot longer.

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2016, 08:59:11 pm »
I saw it a few times on twitter, but I didn't know what it was until a few weeks back.

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2016, 09:11:35 pm »
I've known about it for a few years but I've been getting a certain thrill out of slapping racists for a lot longer.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2016, 09:14:32 pm »
You best elucidate yourself then.


About green cartoon frogs representing "white nationalism"?    Why would I want to learn anything about that?   It is D@mned silly.   


For what it's worth,  I don't keep up with pop music or pop culture either.    It seems to me a form of brain rot. 




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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2016, 09:20:29 pm »
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Knowledge is power, or so they say!   :smokin:

Things like Viking and Crusader imagery also raise red flags but don't necessarily point to racism since lots of people have genuine interests in those subjects. Also the Vikings series on the history channel has brought about a bit of interest in vikings.

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2016, 09:28:03 pm »
Things like Viking and Crusader imagery also raise red flags but don't necessarily point to racism since lots of people have genuine interests in those subjects. Also the Vikings series on the history channel has brought about a bit of interest in vikings.


Uh oh,  better watch her closely now.   :)   @mystery-ak

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2016, 09:34:36 pm »

Uh oh,  better watch her closely now.   :)   @mystery-ak



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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2016, 09:37:07 pm »
Fear-mongering from the leftist SPLC.



Ben Garrison has used it, Nicki Minaj has posted it.

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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2016, 10:08:33 pm »
Michael Medved who certainly is no known Trump supporter came out today and said, "some Trump supporters are racists just like some Hillary Clinton supporters are are racist".

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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2016, 10:15:56 pm »
A green cartoon frog is a symbol of white nationalism?    I don't get it.   

Not just any cartoon green frog @DiogenesLamp , but a cartoon green frog named Pepe.

I'd refer back to your earlier definition of "cuck" for understanding about why the name Pepe scares them.

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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2016, 10:20:03 pm »
Not just any cartoon green frog @DiogenesLamp , but a cartoon green frog named Pepe.

I'd refer back to your earlier definition of "cuck" for understanding about why the name Pepe scares them.

 888high58888


You are speaking over my head.   Why would the name "Pepe"  scare them,  and what does it have to do with "cuck"?   

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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2016, 10:26:20 pm »

About green cartoon frogs representing "white nationalism"?    Why would I want to learn anything about that?   It is D@mned silly.   


For what it's worth,  I don't keep up with pop music or pop culture either.    It seems to me a form of brain rot.
Consider it a form of heraldry. It is amazing how many symbols convey hidden meanings.
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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2016, 10:39:18 pm »


You are fighting a losing battle. 




I get that feeling a lot when I argue with headstrong people.   


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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2016, 10:42:05 pm »
Well, a swastika is a weird symbol too.  It did not always mean what it came to mean.   But if I were in the dark about what it means now, I would definitely want to know.  No stupid symbol, cartoon or otherwise, is worth hanging onto if it stands for something evil.   

You are fighting a losing battle. 

For the record, it's not that it "scares" them.
Yep, the some Indians even used a Swastika, some tribes drew one that looked like a backwards one. But that isn't what the skinheads are trying to get you to think of when they use the symbol.
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2016, 10:42:24 pm »
Why would the name "Pepe"  scare them,  and what does it have to do with "cuck"?

Only a "cuck" would know why a silly cartoon frog named Pepe should be cause for concern.

For the same reason they pee sitting down I guess...






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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2016, 10:45:45 pm »
Only a "cuck" would know why a silly cartoon frog named Pepe should be cause for concern.

For the same reason they pee sitting down I guess...

Come out and say what you mean.  I'm dense and hints don't work too well with me.

State it, clearly.

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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2016, 10:46:08 pm »
According to the google trend found at this website,   "Pepe the Nazi frog"  doesn't show up at all.   Neither does "Pepe the White Nationalist frog",  or any other sort of "Pepe the racist frog"  meme. 


What shows up are the following: 


Pepe the frog.
Sad frog.
"Feels good man."
Smug frog.
Well memed.


This is really a stupid discussion we are having.    As someone said of dog whistles,   "if you can hear one, maybe *you*  are the dog. "


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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2016, 10:46:35 pm »

I get that feeling a lot when I argue with headstrong people.

Sooo....you argue with yourself a lot, do ya?   :tongue2:
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2016, 11:00:03 pm »
Only a "cuck" would know why a silly cartoon frog named Pepe should be cause for concern.

For the same reason they pee sitting down I guess...
Sorry are you trying to insult women here or what?
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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2016, 11:04:28 pm »
Did a bit of digging and ran across this:
http://www.dailydot.com/unclick/pepe-the-frog-alt-right-white-supremacist/

All I know is this frog is uglier than @unknown 's self portrait he likes to show off.
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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2016, 11:27:18 pm »
Did a bit of digging and ran across this:
http://www.dailydot.com/unclick/pepe-the-frog-alt-right-white-supremacist/

All I know is this frog is uglier than @unknown 's self portrait he likes to show off.



Yup.

Barack Pepe. 



Bernie Sanders Pepe. 



Hillary Pepe. 




I guess they were right.   Pepe really *IS*  a symbol of anti-semitism.   


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