LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY

[driftdiver]

What we need even less is your carping.    Nobody wants to read an seemingly endless stream of complaining.

Who carps or complains?  heck its the trumpsters that cant let go of Cruz and whine and cry about people who wont support their idol.  Heck if they spent as much time going after Hillary they might have a chance of winning.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump presented these key proposals in his speech in Philadelphia today:

FACT SHEET: KEY POLICIES PROPOSED IN MR. TRUMP’S MILITARY READINESS SPEECH

Today Mr. Trump Will Lay Out Several New Proposals Designed To Update And Upgrade America’s Military

PROPOSAL: Immediately after taking office, Mr. Trump will ask the generals to present a plan within 30 days to defeat and destroy ISIS.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will ask Congress to fully eliminate the defense sequester and will submit a new budget to rebuild our military as soon as he assumes office.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build an active Army of around 540,000, as the Army’s chief of staff has said he needs.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build a Marine Corps based on 36 battalions, which the Heritage Foundation notes is the minimum needed to deal with major contingencies.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build a Navy approaching 350 surface ships and submarines, as recommended by the bipartisan National Defense Panel.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build an Air Force of at least 1,200 fighter aircraft, which the Heritage Foundation has shown to be needed to execute current missions.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will seek to develop a state of the art missile defense system.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will modernize our nation’s naval cruisers to provide Ballistic Missile Defense capabilities.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will enforce all classification rules, and enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information.

PROPOSAL: One of Mr. Trump’s first commands after taking office will be asking the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and all relevant federal departments, to conduct a thorough review of United States cyber defenses and identify all vulnerabilities – in our power grid, our communications systems, and all vital infrastructure.


https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/fact-sheet-key-policies-proposed-in-mr.-trumps-military-preparedness-speech

[driftdiver]

Get back to me when you want to do business in Democrat strongholds.     

@Smokin Joe @DCPatriot

You mean like Miami Dade county?   Yep they're a customer of mine and I haven't paid a dime to anyone to get the contract.

People who excuse corruption are part of the problem.

[musiclady]

What is curious is how you have allowed your hate for Trump to consume you.  I'm not calling you names, or trying to hurt your feelings, like you did. I was just expressing my honest opinion, so take it however you wish.

I can certainly handle criticism or I wouldn't be on this site. There are lots of other sites where I could avoid disagreement.

I can handle criticism as well.  Just not Trump hoakum with no bearing on reality.

That's what you posted, and it wasn't true.  Your list was both biased and bogus.

But since you think you're strong enough to handle criticism, lay off the stupid name-calling in response to a legitimate post.

It diminishes you, almost as much as your cheerleading for a vulgar, corrupt leftist does.

(Almost)

I know you guys are desperate, but you're on the wrong track here.  Calling us names won't win our hearts, son.  It just inures us to your dopey ad hominems even more.

btw, my life is filled with more love in any given day than most people get in a life-time...... family, friends, brothers and sisters in Christ.  To say I am "consumed" by hate is as absurd as any ad hominem anyone has thrown out here.

But it reveals how distorted your reality is.

Save the personal attacks for someone you're not completely clueless about.

[musiclady]

Who carps or complains?  heck its the trumpsters that cant let go of Cruz and whine and cry about people who wont support their idol.  Heck if they spent as much time going after Hillary they might have a chance of winning.

They're the ones incessantly whining about how "unfair" this forum is, even though they're the ones getting protection in their little safe rooms.

[driftdiver]

NOW we are getting to the nub of things! 

Because I do business in one of those hell holes and have to do such things EVERYONE should!

@DCPatriot @Smokin Joe @Bigun

Heck I count the NYTimes as one of my customers.    Hurt like hell to go into their building.  Never paid them a dime either.

[Bigun]

Trump presented these key proposals in his speech in Philadelphia today:

How long before he starts disavowing that? 3, 2, 1

[DiogenesLamp]

You are a treasure, @DiogenesLamp   Wish you would hang around a lot more.   

A lot of times I look at the list of topics,  and think:





It's frustrating trying to find a thread worth engaging,  because most of them seem to be noting but b*tch b*tch b*tch b*tch b*tch. 


Oh,  and thanks!     :) 

[DCPatriot]

@Smokin Joe @DCPatriot

You mean like Miami Dade county?   Yep they're a customer of mine and I haven't paid a dime to anyone to get the contract.

People who excuse corruption are part of the problem.

Donating to a Democrat candidate in your home town of NYC ain't  like Dade County.

Having a sitting politician powerful enough to jump hurdles with a phone call instead of navigating the permits gantlet and public/private union shops is priceless.

But, I understand your basic premise.   Just use it honestly, here.

[DCPatriot]

I can handle criticism as well.  Just not Trump hoakum with no bearing on reality.

That's what you posted, and it wasn't true.  Your list was both biased and bogus.

But since you think you're strong enough to handle criticism, lay off the stupid name-calling in response to a legitimate post.

It diminishes you, almost as much as your cheerleading for a vulgar, corrupt leftist does.

(Almost)

I know you guys are desperate, but you're on the wrong track here.  Calling us names won't win our hearts, son.  It just inures us to your dopey ad hominems even more.

btw, my life is filled with more love in any given day than most people get in a life-time...... family, friends, brothers and sisters in Christ.  To say I am "consumed" by hate is as absurd as any ad hominem anyone has thrown out here.

But it reveals how distorted your reality is.

Save the personal attacks for someone you're not completely clueless about.

I stopped reading after the "bold"....

[unknown]

Trump presented these key proposals in his speech in Philadelphia today:

FACT SHEET: KEY POLICIES PROPOSED IN MR. TRUMP’S MILITARY READINESS SPEECH

Today Mr. Trump Will Lay Out Several New Proposals Designed To Update And Upgrade America’s Military

PROPOSAL: Immediately after taking office, Mr. Trump will ask the generals to present a plan within 30 days to defeat and destroy ISIS.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will ask Congress to fully eliminate the defense sequester and will submit a new budget to rebuild our military as soon as he assumes office.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build an active Army of around 540,000, as the Army’s chief of staff has said he needs.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build a Marine Corps based on 36 battalions, which the Heritage Foundation notes is the minimum needed to deal with major contingencies.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build a Navy approaching 350 surface ships and submarines, as recommended by the bipartisan National Defense Panel.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will build an Air Force of at least 1,200 fighter aircraft, which the Heritage Foundation has shown to be needed to execute current missions.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will seek to develop a state of the art missile defense system.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will modernize our nation’s naval cruisers to provide Ballistic Missile Defense capabilities.

PROPOSAL: Mr. Trump will enforce all classification rules, and enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information.

PROPOSAL: One of Mr. Trump’s first commands after taking office will be asking the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and all relevant federal departments, to conduct a thorough review of United States cyber defenses and identify all vulnerabilities – in our power grid, our communications systems, and all vital infrastructure.


https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/fact-sheet-key-policies-proposed-in-mr.-trumps-military-preparedness-speech

Thanks for posting this.

[truth_seeker]

Trump presented these key proposals in his speech in Philadelphia today:

Do not expect any substantive discussion of Trump's policy recommendations for national defense,  on this site.

I have proved to myself, there is little or no demand for such seriousness.

[DiogenesLamp]

You couldn't make me vote for a corrupt reprobate if you threatened me with death.

Or apparently against one. 



https://youtu.be/bDPQHKmU0P8

[Ghost Bear]

A lot of times I look at the list of topics,  and think:





It's frustrating trying to find a thread worth engaging,  because most of them seem to be noting but b*tch b*tch b*tch b*tch b*tch. 


Oh,  and thanks!     :)

Funny, I have the same reaction.

The pro-Trump bullshit does get to be very tiresome.

[Smokin Joe]

Amen and AMEN!

The only point I might disagree with you about is that Trump is the "lesser" of the two evils.  It would be difficult, considering his evil past, to conclude that he's not as evil as Hillary.  It just hasn't been proven politically yet.

In all fairness, I didn't say which was which, nor am I certain which one would do the most damage. One is fairly predictable, one is not. Whichever one people vote for will be the one they consider the lesser evil, though. It's still evil.

[unknown]

Quote from: musiclady on Today at 12:36:37 PM

I can handle criticism as well. Just not Trump hoakum with no bearing on reality.

That's what you posted, and it wasn't true.  Your list was both biased and bogus.

But since you think you're strong enough to handle criticism, lay off the stupid name-calling in response to a legitimate post.

It diminishes you, almost as much as your cheerleading for a vulgar, corrupt leftist does.

(Almost)

I know you guys are desperate, but you're on the wrong track here.  Calling us names won't win our hearts, son.  It just inures us to your dopey ad hominems even more.

btw, my life is filled with more love in any given day than most people get in a life-time...... family, friends, brothers and sisters in Christ.  To say I am "consumed" by hate is as absurd as any ad hominem anyone has thrown out here.

But it reveals how distorted your reality is.

Save the personal attacks for someone you're not completely clueless about.

I stopped reading after the "bold"....

LOL     


Me Too!!

[musiclady]

Or apparently against one. 



https://youtu.be/bDPQHKmU0P8

That argument has been debunked, Dio.  MANY times.

I'm voting against TWO degenerate, corrupt leftists.

And my conscience is entirely clear because of that.

(Try something new if you want to make progress.  Old, tired, wrong, false arguments don't cut the mustard).

[DiogenesLamp]

Exactly.  I guess they must vent their frustrations.  So go for it.  I have them on ignore but see them when I'm not logged in.  In this case I find their comebacks to me funny.  They are so proud of themselves.  Whatever.  Like you, I am very much at peace with my decision.

[musiclady]

In all fairness, I didn't say which was which, nor am I certain which one would do the most damage. One is fairly predictable, one is not. Whichever one people vote for will be the one they consider the lesser evil, though. It's still evil.

True enough.

The only solution that makes sense is to vote for neither evil.  It's the only thing my conscience will allow.

[GrouchoTex]

Trump presented these key proposals in his speech in Philadelphia today:

I like it.

Paying for will be tough.

Not doing it could be tougher, yet.

[Smokin Joe]

LOL.  It looks like it is going to tip over.

Yep--to the left, no less.

[Just_Victor]

I like it.

Paying for will be tough.

Not doing it could be tougher, yet.

And what reason to we have to believe that Trump will actually fight for this.  When the chips are down and the democRATs are fighting back, is Trump going to knuckle under?  Recent experience says yes.

A man of devoted principles fights, Trump, maybe not.

Would Hillary be worse, absolutely.  But the problem with the lesser of two evils argument is that evil is guaranteed to win.

[GrouchoTex]

@GrouchoTex

The guy who tweeted that to you is likely one of Trump's male fanboys who think they see in him some kind of alpha male masculinity they don't have. 

Yeah, I know....Trump, the alpha male paragon of masculinity.  It is funny.

Alpha male paragons of masculinity hold women in high esteem,  and don't throw body parts (or "her wherever") around.
It is funny, for sure.

[DiogenesLamp]

You are willing to vote for evil. It may be a lesser evil, you may do so willingly, but it is still evil. I will not join with you to vote for evil. When I exercise my sacred duty to vote it will be for those I can support without reservation. Otherwise, I'll leave it blank or write in "none of the above"

11 "The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican."

[DiogenesLamp]

And that horse's rump named Trump is the ONLY thing standing between us and the savage Left bent on destroying "The Greatest Experiment".

Pretty much how I see it.    At this point,  Chris Christie would be an improvement over Hillary.  Pretty much any candidate would,  except for Jeb.