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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #350 on: September 07, 2016, 04:01:47 pm »
Mark Levin

 under the bus888

And another one bites the dust....

Also...Jeff Sessions, sheriff Joe Arpaio, sheriff David Clarke, America's Mayor, Phyllis Schlafly...

List of Donald Trump presidential campaign endorsements, 2016:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016

THE LIST IS HUGE...and a significant portion are conservatives, solid conservatives.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #351 on: September 07, 2016, 04:03:35 pm »
And what reason to we have to believe that Trump will actually fight for this.  When the chips are down and the democRATs are fighting back, is Trump going to knuckle under?  Recent experience says yes.

A man of devoted principles fights, Trump, maybe not.

Would Hillary be worse, absolutely.  But the problem with the lesser of two evils argument is that evil is guaranteed to win.

We don't know, that's true.
I'd like to think positive.

We know Hillary won't, but we do not know if Trump will, either.

I hate to say, but evil is going to win.


Not choosing won't stop this.
3rd party won't stop this, unless something REALLY big comes out about BOTH of them,and I am not sure how much more is out there that can come out, that has not already.
You never know.
 
SMOD will stop this.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #352 on: September 07, 2016, 04:05:43 pm »
Trump presented these key proposals in his speech in Philadelphia today:
Thanks for posting.


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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #353 on: September 07, 2016, 04:05:57 pm »
Thanks for posting this.

You're welcome @unknown.  I think it's a terrific outline of his administration's goals.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #354 on: September 07, 2016, 04:07:51 pm »



From WikiPedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Wels):

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On March 23, 1933 Wels was the only member of the Reichstag to speak against Adolf Hitler's Enabling Act (the "Law for Removing the Distress of People and Reich"). The vote took place during the last session of the multi-party Reichstag, on March 23, 1933. Because the Reichstag building itself had suffered heavy fire damage in February, the March session was held in Berlin's Kroll Opera House. Despite the incipient persecution of opposition politicians and the presence of the SA, he made a courageous[1][2] speech opposing the Enabling Act, which gave the Reich cabinet the right to pass laws without the consent of the Reichstag for a period of four years.

He stated:

    "At this historic hour, we German Social Democrats pledge ourselves to the principles of humanity and justice, of freedom and Socialism. No Enabling Law can give you the power to destroy ideas which are eternal and indestructible ... From this new persecution too German Social Democracy can draw new strength. We send greetings to the persecuted and oppressed. We greet our friends in the Reich. Their steadfastness and loyalty deserve admiration. The courage with which they maintain their convictions and their unbroken confidence guarantee a brighter future." [Noakes and Pridham, 1974].

Speaking directly to Hitler, Wels proclaimed,

    "You can take our lives and our freedom, but you cannot take our honour. We are defenseless but not honourless."

He sounds like he was a brave and principled man, who stood up against the progress of Nazism, even though he was unable to stop it.

So, what's your point in posting his picture?
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #355 on: September 07, 2016, 04:07:56 pm »
Do not expect any substantive discussion of Trump's policy recommendations for national defense,  on this site.

I have proved to myself, there is little or no demand for such seriousness.

I keep hoping @truth_seeker --- especially on so important a topic.  I thought the proposals, BTW, were spot-on and very good.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #356 on: September 07, 2016, 04:08:05 pm »
...they operate on emotion

That'll happen when one swings Left.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #357 on: September 07, 2016, 04:09:10 pm »
We don't know, that's true.
I'd like to think positive.

We know Hillary won't, but we do not know if Trump will, either.

I hate to say, but evil is going to win.


Not choosing won't stop this.
3rd party won't stop this, unless something REALLY big comes out about BOTH of them,and I am not sure how much more is out there that can come out, that has not already.
You never know.
 
SMOD will stop this.
That is correct! Major point...we know Hillary won't do this.


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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #358 on: September 07, 2016, 04:10:39 pm »




I may not be an engineer, but a close look at the wheels on the right side of that engine (from inside the cab) would put them on different rails.

I think I'd rather walk, thanks.



Walking isn't going to be an option,  but don't worry,  Hillary also has a train transportation scheme for us conservatives. 







People simply do not grasp how evil Hillary is and has always been.    She really is a F***ing Nazi. 



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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #359 on: September 07, 2016, 04:12:19 pm »
How about someone moves this topic to the "From our Members Forum" instead of keeping it the lead story on a politics forum sixty days from a national election?   
 
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #360 on: September 07, 2016, 04:13:31 pm »
Donating to a Democrat candidate in your home town of NYC ain't  like Dade County.

Having a sitting politician powerful enough to jump hurdles with a phone call instead of navigating the permits gantlet and public/private union shops is priceless.

But, I understand your basic premise.   Just use it honestly, here.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #361 on: September 07, 2016, 04:15:10 pm »
Do not expect any substantive discussion of Trump's policy recommendations for national defense,  on this site.

I have proved to myself, there is little or no demand for such seriousness.

Self fulfilling prophesy.
Who would want to discuss this with you now?

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #362 on: September 07, 2016, 04:16:01 pm »

....or that it doesn't need the tracks and just wants to take off and fly!    :laugh:
mmmmm hmmmmm. Y'all have a nice ride on that flyin' TrumpTrain, now, y'heah?
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #363 on: September 07, 2016, 04:20:03 pm »
The donut vs the hole - thats exactly why I supported the only constitutional conservative in the race. And why it will be so difficult for me to support the carnival barker who slandered him.


And here I agree with you completely.   Trump engaged in completely despicable attacks on Ted Cruz's honor,  intelligence,  and family.    But as bad as Trump was,  what infuriated me even more was how so many Trump supporters would endlessly repeat the false claims initiated by Trump. 


Over at Free Republic I asked  anyone to give me an example of a lie that Ted Cruz told.   Each and every claim  I shot down and demonstrated that what Cruz said was either true,  or that Ted Cruz didn't say it. 

Eventually they suspended me  because I was P*ssing people off.   


Trump ran a very dirty ugly campaign against Ted Cruz,  and even worse were his rabid fan base who literally seemed to have lost their minds with their paranoia,  claims and accusations. 



But  that was the primary and this is the general,   and now we have a real embodiment of evil as an opponent. 

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #364 on: September 07, 2016, 04:22:17 pm »
@Smokin Joe @DCPatriot @aligncare

Man that image is offensive.  Hardly an American concept.  Get in line to support the Party or get run over.  More in line with the Communists of Russia or China.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #365 on: September 07, 2016, 04:22:51 pm »
From WikiPedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Wels):

He sounds like he was a brave and principled man, who stood up against the progress of Nazism, even though he was unable to stop it.

So, what's your point in posting his picture?


He lost because of the people who voted "third party." 




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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #366 on: September 07, 2016, 04:24:10 pm »
Self fulfilling prophesy.
Who would want to discuss this with you now?

Just the usual and same ole same ole tactic of shutting down any and all dissent.  (See: Alinsky tactics, Rule 5)
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #367 on: September 07, 2016, 04:25:09 pm »
Are you seriously offended, @driftdiver .....or are you acting out?

To me, it means Trump's momentum cannot and will not be stopped.  Nothing more.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #368 on: September 07, 2016, 04:25:41 pm »
I may not be an engineer, but a close look at the wheels on the right side of that engine (from inside the cab) would put them on different rails.

I think I'd rather walk, thanks.

I AM a locomotive engineer...and you don't run a GP-38 like that.

They were good units for their time...the mid- to late-1970s; but they did have stability and other issues. 

Which is why there aren't any new four-axle locomotives made...excepting AMTRAK stuff, and they have an entirely different design.  And made by the archtypical crony-corporatist conglomerate, General Electric.

Our Trump train-wreck unfolding, is being pulled by an Electro-Motive Corp. unit.  Used to be a division of General Motors; now part of Caterpillar.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #369 on: September 07, 2016, 04:26:23 pm »

And here I agree with you completely.   Trump engaged in completely despicable attacks on Ted Cruz's honor,  intelligence,  and family.    But as bad as Trump was,  what infuriated me even more was how so many Trump supporters would endlessly repeat the false claims initiated by Trump. 


Over at Free Republic I asked  anyone to give me an example of a lie that Ted Cruz told.   Each and every claim  I shot down and demonstrated that what Cruz said was either true,  or that Ted Cruz didn't say it. 

Eventually they suspended me  because I was P*ssing people off.   


Trump ran a very dirty ugly campaign against Ted Cruz,  and even worse were his rabid fan base who literally seemed to have lost their minds with their paranoia,  claims and accusations. 



But  that was the primary and this is the general,   and now we have a real embodiment of evil as an opponent.

I understand what you're saying.

Still, it would be nice to hear some of the more stalwart Trump fans admit to the above. Don't think I've ever hear a single one do so.

Every time I think about voting for DT I can't help recalling his behavior in the primaries and the fact that he remains unrepentant to this day. Its a huge impediment.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #370 on: September 07, 2016, 04:28:23 pm »
How about someone moves this topic to the "From our Members Forum" instead of keeping it the lead story on a politics forum sixty days from a national election?   
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #371 on: September 07, 2016, 04:29:06 pm »
Curious.  Your Prince and your compatriots have repeatedly told us that they did not need, nor want our support or votes in order to "win".  We were just told recently that Trump does not need us and your Trump train is so packed and powerful we have to get on board now or be run over and killed by it if we don't.

Why suddenly the effort to reach ONE #neverTrump per day when you folks repeatedly told us you did not need us or want us on your train?

I'm convinced because many of your compatriots insist that all must seig-heil your Nationalist Populist NY Liberal or be declared a traitor and suffer for it.
It's the old liberal "If it saves just one" gambit used to justify any amount of obnoxiousness, legislation, prevarication, or diminishment of Rights. It is an 'ends justify the means' concept. They have apparently adapted it as a modus operandi.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #372 on: September 07, 2016, 04:29:13 pm »
You know, I'm a business owner. I never bought a politician and I won't. I gave a Fortune 3 company a ten cent credit once because someone in their accounts payable dept. overpaid me that much. No kickbacks, no bribes, no bending rules, no substandard anything, done to spec or beyond, for the agreed on price. My subcontractors handed me an invoice and I cut them a check, on the spot, for the full invoice. The only thing I ever wanted from Government was for it to get out of the way and let us do our job.

Yes, I see Trump differently because I am a business owner. You bet I do, and what I see isn't pretty and it makes it harder for the rest of us to do business.


You must not have seen this:









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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #373 on: September 07, 2016, 04:30:20 pm »

And here I agree with you completely.   Trump engaged in completely despicable attacks on Ted Cruz's honor,  intelligence,  and family.    But as bad as Trump was,  what infuriated me even more was how so many Trump supporters would endlessly repeat the false claims initiated by Trump. 


Over at Free Republic I asked  anyone to give me an example of a lie that Ted Cruz told.   Each and every claim  I shot down and demonstrated that what Cruz said was either true,  or that Ted Cruz didn't say it. 

Eventually they suspended me  because I was P*ssing people off.   


Trump ran a very dirty ugly campaign against Ted Cruz,  and even worse were his rabid fan base who literally seemed to have lost their minds with their paranoia,  claims and accusations. 



But  that was the primary and this is the general,   and now we have a real embodiment of evil as an opponent.

Its really a no win situation we're in now. 
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #374 on: September 07, 2016, 04:31:38 pm »


Now, me, I'm voting for the Constitution Party Candidate,





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