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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #300 on: September 07, 2016, 06:52:34 pm »
People said equally negative things about Churchill and Reagan.

Yet they prevailed and their respective nations benefited, in spite of their loudmouthed detractors.

On Churchill, from the BBC:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29701767

exerpt--

"In April last year, Labour candidate Benjamin Whittingham tweeted that Churchill was "a racist and white supremacist".

And Reagan. Pick a book

https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&hl=en&biw=1221&bih=654&tbm=bks&q=reagan%27s+critics&oq=reagan%27s+critics&gs_l=serp.12...171828.179549.0.181790.27.21.0.0.0.0.798.3250.2-1j3j1j1j1.7.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..24.1.796...0.R0f264kJUtE

That's deflection, not a response.   I gladly voted for Reagan (heck I did so in 1976 as well).   Reagan was tagged as an extremist, but that's not what the problem is with Trump.  He's unstable and unfit for the job.  It's not the message, it's the messenger.   His personality is too volatile and dangerous to be CIC. 
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #301 on: September 07, 2016, 06:54:58 pm »
You think so!  That in itself is quite telling!

You obviously can't recognize sarcasm, old-timer.   But don't give up.    :laugh:
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #302 on: September 07, 2016, 06:56:31 pm »
I may not be an engineer, but a close look at the wheels on the right side of that engine (from inside the cab) would put them on different rails.

I think I'd rather walk, thanks.

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Man that image is offensive.  Hardly an American concept.  Get in line to support the Party or get run over.  More in line with the Communists of Russia or China.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #303 on: September 07, 2016, 06:59:28 pm »
I have always voted Republican, though my personal philosophy leans more to Anarchism.

I have stuck with the republicans due to the conservative wing espousing limited government.

I've voted for candidate after candidate that makes so many promises, just to be elected.

Now the republican's nominee apparently does not care a whit about conservatism at all.

It's looking more every day that the Two Party System is One Big Lie.

I feel like the frog in the pot of water on the stove.  And it wasn't too bad a while ago, but it's awfully hot now.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #304 on: September 07, 2016, 06:59:48 pm »
Rush's show is fabulous today....he's been speaking about a ten-page article written to #nevertrumpers and how ridiculously wrong they are to hold their positions at this time.

Can't wait until he posts it on his site.

....and when it's posted here it shouldn't be 'buried' in a GD sub-category in "Entertainment".

You mean, like it might be relevant and incisive commentary in support of voting for, if not fully supporting Trump?

Well, don't expect much more than slash and burn responses. There are few left like Lando Lincoln, MACSOG, Once-ler and massadvj. And it appears when we do get new quality posters like Mesaclone, they soon self deport. Tone on a political forum does matter.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #305 on: September 07, 2016, 07:03:08 pm »
You obviously can't recognize sarcasm, old-timer.   But don't give up.    :laugh:

Oh I recognize it quite well! You just don't know how to use it very effectively!  :seeya:
 
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #306 on: September 07, 2016, 07:04:23 pm »
@DCPatriot @CatherineofAragon

Nor do I! It's the foolish idea that Trump is the solution that I take exception to!  Especially in light of the fact that Trump is exactly the candidate that the miscreants already mentioned wanted and got!
Exactamundo! They said early on they could cut deals with Trump.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #307 on: September 07, 2016, 07:06:46 pm »
Oh I recognize it quite well! You just don't know how to use it very effectively!  :seeya:

Or.....at all.  lol
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #308 on: September 07, 2016, 07:06:57 pm »
Exactamundo! They said early on they could cut deals with Trump.

I believe the exact word they used was "malleable".
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #309 on: September 07, 2016, 07:11:48 pm »
@Smokin Joe @DCPatriot @aligncare

Man that image is offensive.  Hardly an American concept.  Get in line to support the Party or get run over.  More in line with the Communists of Russia or China.

Are you seriously offended, @driftdiver .....or are you acting out?

To me, it means Trump's momentum cannot and will not be stopped.  Nothing more.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #310 on: September 07, 2016, 07:12:43 pm »
Or.....at all.  lol

But, I'm supposed to just ignore you, right?      :whistle:

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #311 on: September 07, 2016, 07:14:03 pm »
You mean, like it might be relevant and incisive commentary in support of voting for, if not fully supporting Trump?

Well, don't expect much more than slash and burn responses. There are few left like Lando Lincoln, MACSOG, Once-ler and massadvj. And it appears when we do get new quality posters like Mesaclone, they soon self deport. Tone on a political forum does matter.

In fairness, @mystery-ak posted the original article in OPINIONS!

Kudos to her.   
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #312 on: September 07, 2016, 07:21:03 pm »
Stop with the guilt... @INVAR



Yet when I showed you proof that "their side" has plans for exterminating 25 million capitalist....you lost your tongue.

Anyone who has been paying attention has known about that since the 70s. Considering Ayres was Obama's mentor, that shouldn't be news to anyone, and that is an old number.

Taking into account those who willingly shed their principles this election cycle, I suspect the camps won't be so very crowded.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #313 on: September 07, 2016, 07:22:03 pm »

If we only reach ONE #nevertrump member per day to face reality...why we can spend 6 of the next 8 weeks in peace and harmony in here.


Curious.  Your Prince and your compatriots have repeatedly told us that they did not need, nor want our support or votes in order to "win".  We were just told recently that Trump does not need us and your Trump train is so packed and powerful we have to get on board now or be run over and killed by it if we don't.

Why suddenly the effort to reach ONE #neverTrump per day when you folks repeatedly told us you did not need us or want us on your train?

I'm convinced because many of your compatriots insist that all must seig-heil your Nationalist Populist NY Liberal or be declared a traitor and suffer for it.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #314 on: September 07, 2016, 07:25:35 pm »
It's what I have come to expect from them.  And it will only get worse for the next two months, no doubt.

No doubt. 

And the insults will escalate as they become angrier and angrier with those of us who don't buckle under the pressure to become leftists....... or at least enablers of leftists.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #315 on: September 07, 2016, 07:27:26 pm »
My point is made, then.   Business owners and self-reliant people view the landscape differently than someone who punches in and out each day.   

Doesn't make them better than anyone else.   It's just some insight into how Trump views the world....and the problems we all face.

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You know, I'm a business owner. I never bought a politician and I won't. I gave a Fortune 3 company a ten cent credit once because someone in their accounts payable dept. overpaid me that much. No kickbacks, no bribes, no bending rules, no substandard anything, done to spec or beyond, for the agreed on price. My subcontractors handed me an invoice and I cut them a check, on the spot, for the full invoice. The only thing I ever wanted from Government was for it to get out of the way and let us do our job.

Yes, I see Trump differently because I am a business owner. You bet I do, and what I see isn't pretty and it makes it harder for the rest of us to do business.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #316 on: September 07, 2016, 07:28:12 pm »
Good.  Then you don't need our vote.



What we need even less is your carping.    Nobody wants to read an seemingly endless stream of complaining.   


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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #317 on: September 07, 2016, 07:29:40 pm »
No doubt. 

And the insults will escalate as they become angrier and angrier with those of us who don't buckle under the pressure to become leftists....... or at least enablers of leftists.

Indeed.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #318 on: September 07, 2016, 07:30:16 pm »
You know, I'm a business owner. I never bought a politician and I won't. I gave a Fortune 3 company a ten cent credit once because someone in their accounts payable dept. overpaid me that much. No kickbacks, no bribes, no bending rules, no substandard anything, done to spec or beyond, for the agreed on price. My subcontractors handed me an invoice and I cut them a check, on the spot, for the full invoice. The only thing I ever wanted from Government was for it to get out of the way and let us do our job.

Yes, I see Trump differently because I am a business owner. You bet I do, and what I see isn't pretty and it makes it harder for the rest of us to do business.

They don't understand that kind of integrity! Never have and never will.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #319 on: September 07, 2016, 07:30:59 pm »
Curious.  Your Prince and your compatriots have repeatedly told us that they did not need, nor want our support or votes in order to "win".  We were just told recently that Trump does not need us and your Trump train is so packed and powerful we have to get on board now or be run over and killed by it if we don't.

Why suddenly the effort to reach ONE #neverTrump per day when you folks repeatedly told us you did not need us or want us on your train?

I'm convinced because many of your compatriots insist that all must seig-heil your Nationalist Populist NY Liberal or be declared a traitor and suffer for it.

Are you unable to grasp any sense regarding reading comprehension or context?

My post never said we were going to beg or plead or ask you for your support of Trump.  We know that's beyond you.

By stating our rebuttals to ya'll's constant declarations standing on so-called principles....perhaps individually wrapped, rather than as a group, each day...somebody will "see the light".

Nothing more...nothing less.

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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #320 on: September 07, 2016, 07:31:50 pm »


What we need even less is your carping.    Nobody wants to read an seemingly endless stream of complaining.

The obvious solution to this problem then would be to stop reading it.  But then I'm just an engineer, the complex nuances of doing something that you then profess no one wants to do, escape me.
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #321 on: September 07, 2016, 07:31:58 pm »
Are you seriously offended, @driftdiver .....or are you acting out?

To me, it means Trump's momentum cannot and will not be stopped.  Nothing more.

Its HIGHLY offensive and indicative of the entire Trump monstrosity.   He doesn't try to earn our votes, he just bullies his way along and gets those who idolize him to carry his water.

You can whitewash that image all you want but it is far more in line with the tactics of the KGB than with any freedom loving American.   
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #322 on: September 07, 2016, 07:32:30 pm »
You know, I'm a business owner. I never bought a politician and I won't. I gave a Fortune 3 company a ten cent credit once because someone in their accounts payable dept. overpaid me that much. No kickbacks, no bribes, no bending rules, no substandard anything, done to spec or beyond, for the agreed on price. My subcontractors handed me an invoice and I cut them a check, on the spot, for the full invoice. The only thing I ever wanted from Government was for it to get out of the way and let us do our job.

Yes, I see Trump differently because I am a business owner. You bet I do, and what I see isn't pretty and it makes it harder for the rest of us to do business.

Get back to me when you want to do business in Democrat strongholds.      :whistle:
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #323 on: September 07, 2016, 07:33:26 pm »
What kind of a political "discussion" would this be if everyone on TBR has everyone else on ignore?

How about putting personal attacks on notice instead?  Attack someone's person and get a time out, time to cool your jets.

Distribute those evenly, fairly, and liberally, and the problem will solve itself.
That's a great idea. Now, about the way your tagline calls anyone who is a nevertrumper stupid...or did I mess up, and we're the sanctimonious ones?
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Re: LEVIN: I'M VOTING FOR TRUMP ... HERE'S WHY
« Reply #324 on: September 07, 2016, 07:34:12 pm »
Get back to me when you want to do business in Democrat strongholds.      :whistle:

NOW we are getting to the nub of things!  :whistle:

Because I do business in one of those hell holes and have to do such things EVERYONE should!

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