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Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« on: September 06, 2016, 03:01:16 pm »
Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president

By NICK GASS 09/06/16 08:09 AM EDT

Breaking with decades of historical precedent of endorsing the Republican Party nominee in the general election, the editorial board of The Dallas Morning News on Tuesday declared Donald Trump unfit for office and undeserving of the GOP brand.

The newspaper's editorial board, which endorsed Ohio Gov. John Kasich in the Republican primary, ripped into Trump for his "admiration" of Russian President Vladimir Putin and disavowal of trade deals like the Trans-Pacific Partnership, as well as national security ideas that it says "put sound bites over sound policy."

Trump's ideas, the editorial board wrote, "are so far from Republicanism that they have spawned a new description: Trumpism."

"We have no interest in a Republican nominee for whom all principles are negotiable, nor in a Republican Party that is willing to trade away principle for pursuit of electoral victory," it concluded. "Trump doesn't reflect Republican ideals of the past; we are certain he shouldn't reflect the GOP of the future. Donald Trump is not qualified to serve as president and does not deserve your vote."

The Dallas Morning News had previously endorsed every GOP nominee dating back to 1964, when it was neutral between Texan and incumbent Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson and Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwater.


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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2016, 03:04:03 pm »
Here's the editorial:

Donald Trump is no Republican



By Dallas Morning News Editorial
Staff Writer

Published: 06 September 2016 04:00 AM
Updated: 06 September 2016 09:00 AM


For generations, the answer had been clear: A belief in individual liberty. Free markets. Strong national defense.

But what does it mean to be a Republican today? With Donald Trump as the party's new standard-bearer, it's impossible to say.

Even before Trump's name reached the top of the GOP presidential ticket, the party was pulled in different directions. Many Republicans held fast to the good-governing principles of the past, while a growing wing of the party yanked hard from the right to force a conscripted definition of conservatism.

Inexplicably, the presidential candidate who emerged from that ideological tug of war was the one who thumbed his nose at conservative orthodoxy altogether. Trump is — or has been — at odds with nearly every GOP ideal this newspaper holds dear. 

Donald Trump is no Republican and certainly no conservative.

Individual liberty? Trump has displayed an authoritarian streak that should horrify limited-government advocates. This impulsive, unbridled New York real estate billionaire and reality-TV star wants to deport people who were born in the U.S. and don't meet his standard for loyalty. He has proposed banning all Muslims from entering the country, even those escaping Islamist rule, and won't rule out creating a database of Muslims already living here.

His open admiration of Russia's Vladimir Putin is alarming.

Free markets? Economic conservatism? Ronald Reagan once said that "protectionism is destructionism." Trump, on the other hand, has called the Trans-Pacific Partnership "a rape of our country."

Businesses who invest overseas, he says, should pay a hefty fine on imports. (We'll leave aside for a moment his hypocrisy in pretending that investing in hotels abroad, as he does, is somehow different from a manufacturer investing in foreign car factories.) His protectionism would likely force the U.S. into trade wars, increase the deficit and sink the U.S. economy back into a recession. 

Trump's idea of fiscal conservatism is reducing expenses by financing mountains of soul-crushing debt.

Strong national defense? Trump pledges to make our military "so big, so powerful, so strong that nobody — absolutely nobody — is going to mess with us." But what does he want to do with that military? He says he supports killing the families of Muslim terrorists and allowing interrogation methods "a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding." And if the military balks at obeying such orders?  "If I say do it, they're gonna do it," he says.

His isolationist prescriptions put sound bites over sound policy: Invite the Russians into our elections. Bomb the Middle East into dust. Withdraw from NATO.

It's not easy to offer a shorthand list of such tenets, since Trump flips from one side to the other, issue after issue, sometimes within a single news cycle. Regardless, his ideas are so far from Republicanism that they have spawned a new description: Trumpism.

We have no interest in a Republican nominee for whom all principles are negotiable, nor in a Republican Party that is willing to trade away principle for pursuit of electoral victory.

Trump doesn't reflect Republican ideals of the past; we are certain he shouldn't reflect the GOP of the future.

Donald Trump is not qualified to serve as president and does not deserve your vote.
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2016, 03:11:05 pm »

The relevance of print newspapers and the value of their endorsements is vastly overstated.

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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2016, 03:11:45 pm »
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"We have no interest in a Republican nominee for whom all principles are negotiable, nor in a Republican Party that is willing to trade away principle for pursuit of electoral victory," it concluded. "Trump doesn't reflect Republican ideals of the past; we are certain he shouldn't reflect the GOP of the future. Donald Trump is not qualified to serve as president and does not deserve your vote."

And neither do I.  And the editorial is correct that our votes this year don't just relate to who becomes President next January.   They relate to the future of the GOP, and whether it will be the party of conservatism or Trumpism. 

 There is little future for conservatism unless Trumpism is smacked down once and for all.   For me, that's worth the short-term pain.   
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2016, 03:13:16 pm »
The relevance of print newspapers and the value of their endorsements is vastly overstated.

True, but there is value in a publication changing its endorsement stance after 60 years of backing Republicans.
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2016, 03:13:25 pm »
The relevance of print newspapers and the value of their endorsements is vastly overstated.

It is true it isn't huge, but this study found up to a 3% switch influence based on endorsements depending on the market. That can make a difference in close races.
https://news.brown.edu/articles/2008/10/endorsement

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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2016, 03:13:46 pm »
They probably endorsed the man who started a war that has since, seen the wane of Christianity and the persecutions of Christians in the Mid-East.

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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2016, 03:15:26 pm »
They probably endorsed the man who started a war that has since, seen the wane of Christianity and the persecutions of Christians in the Mid-East.

A war that your boy Trump backed.
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2016, 03:16:20 pm »
They probably endorsed the man who started a war that has since, seen the wane of Christianity and the persecutions of Christians in the Mid-East.

I'd say you need to blame Al Gore's home state of Tennessee, which went for Bush. Had TN voted for their "favorite son", it would have sealed the Electoral College for Gore.
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2016, 03:18:55 pm »
They probably endorsed the man who started a war that has since, seen the wane of Christianity and the persecutions of Christians in the Mid-East.

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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2016, 03:25:55 pm »
Only thing this proves......there's something in the Dallas-Ft. Worth drinking water.    :whistle:
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2016, 03:30:01 pm »
Only thing this proves......there's something in the Dallas-Ft. Worth drinking water.    :whistle:

Nah.  Texas is a conservative state which votes for dignified politicians.

Trump is neither conservative nor dignified.  "Trump does not deserve your vote."
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2016, 03:38:28 pm »
Here's the editorial:

Donald Trump is no Republican



By Dallas Morning News Editorial
Staff Writer

Published: 06 September 2016 04:00 AM
Updated: 06 September 2016 09:00 AM


For generations, the answer had been clear: A belief in individual liberty. Free markets. Strong national defense.

But what does it mean to be a Republican today? With Donald Trump as the party's new standard-bearer, it's impossible to say.

Even before Trump's name reached the top of the GOP presidential ticket, the party was pulled in different directions. Many Republicans held fast to the good-governing principles of the past, while a growing wing of the party yanked hard from the right to force a conscripted definition of conservatism.

Inexplicably, the presidential candidate who emerged from that ideological tug of war was the one who thumbed his nose at conservative orthodoxy altogether. Trump is — or has been — at odds with nearly every GOP ideal this newspaper holds dear. 

Donald Trump is no Republican and certainly no conservative.

Individual liberty? Trump has displayed an authoritarian streak that should horrify limited-government advocates. This impulsive, unbridled New York real estate billionaire and reality-TV star wants to deport people who were born in the U.S. and don't meet his standard for loyalty. He has proposed banning all Muslims from entering the country, even those escaping Islamist rule, and won't rule out creating a database of Muslims already living here.

His open admiration of Russia's Vladimir Putin is alarming.

Free markets? Economic conservatism? Ronald Reagan once said that "protectionism is destructionism." Trump, on the other hand, has called the Trans-Pacific Partnership "a rape of our country."

Businesses who invest overseas, he says, should pay a hefty fine on imports. (We'll leave aside for a moment his hypocrisy in pretending that investing in hotels abroad, as he does, is somehow different from a manufacturer investing in foreign car factories.) His protectionism would likely force the U.S. into trade wars, increase the deficit and sink the U.S. economy back into a recession. 

Trump's idea of fiscal conservatism is reducing expenses by financing mountains of soul-crushing debt.

Strong national defense? Trump pledges to make our military "so big, so powerful, so strong that nobody — absolutely nobody — is going to mess with us." But what does he want to do with that military? He says he supports killing the families of Muslim terrorists and allowing interrogation methods "a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding." And if the military balks at obeying such orders?  "If I say do it, they're gonna do it," he says.

His isolationist prescriptions put sound bites over sound policy: Invite the Russians into our elections. Bomb the Middle East into dust. Withdraw from NATO.

It's not easy to offer a shorthand list of such tenets, since Trump flips from one side to the other, issue after issue, sometimes within a single news cycle. Regardless, his ideas are so far from Republicanism that they have spawned a new description: Trumpism.

We have no interest in a Republican nominee for whom all principles are negotiable, nor in a Republican Party that is willing to trade away principle for pursuit of electoral victory.

Trump doesn't reflect Republican ideals of the past; we are certain he shouldn't reflect the GOP of the future.

Donald Trump is not qualified to serve as president and does not deserve your vote.

He/they have a point.  Trump really isn't a conservative.....and considering how he has attacked mostly Republicans....(obviously not really his fellow Republicans)....he's just pretending to be a GOPer, as well.

I do take issue with this statement, though.

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Many Republicans held fast to the good-governing principles of the past, while a growing wing of the party yanked hard from the right to force a conscripted definition of conservatism.

A growing wing yanked from the right?  Uh...no.  I would say yanked hard from the left.  The same left that has hijacked the Democratic Party.
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2016, 03:39:30 pm »
Only thing this proves......there's something in the Dallas-Ft. Worth drinking water.    :whistle:

Speak for yourself, friend. We all know about the water and atmospheric conditions inside the Beltway.   :beer:
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2016, 03:40:37 pm »
They probably endorsed the man who started a war that has since, seen the wane of Christianity and the persecutions of Christians in the Mid-East.

So how many votes do you figure you've gained for Trump by criticizing Republicans?
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2016, 03:41:14 pm »
I'd say you need to blame Al Gore's home state of Tennessee, which went for Bush. Had TN voted for their "favorite son", it would have sealed the Electoral College for Gore.

Yet another ironic bit of history that is about to repeat itself....ie Trump losing his home state NY, which will go for Hillary.
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2016, 05:39:48 pm »
Speak for yourself, friend. We all know about the water and atmospheric conditions inside the Beltway.   :beer:

LOL!   I live outside the Beltway...and I drink and even cook with bottled Deer Spring water.

No way will I drink anything from the tap.   I don't even drink coffee in restaurants.

But I do get your point about DC 'pollution'.   :laugh:
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2016, 05:43:03 pm »
LOL!   I live outside the Beltway...and I drink and even cook with bottled Deer Spring water.

No way will I drink anything from the tap.   I don't even drink coffee in restaurants.

But I do get your point about DC 'pollution'.   :laugh:

Slightly off topic, but I'm right there with you on the tap water. My dog drinks bottled water too lol.
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2016, 05:50:47 pm »
Slightly off topic, but I'm right there with you on the tap water. My dog drinks bottled water too lol.

 :beer:  My two little fluffs, too! 
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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2016, 06:07:58 pm »
LOL!   I live outside the Beltway...and I drink and even cook with bottled Deer Spring water.

No way will I drink anything from the tap.   I don't even drink coffee in restaurants.

But I do get your point about DC 'pollution'.   :laugh:

Our tap water is pretty good, but I usually opt for Ozarka...we have monthly home delivery. My order usually consists of a couple of 5 gallon bottles, and 3-4 cases of the 16 oz plastic bottles. If Pope Francis thinks I'm going to confess over this, he's mistaken.
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2016, 06:44:55 pm »
Our tap water is pretty good, but I usually opt for Ozarka...we have monthly home delivery. My order usually consists of a couple of 5 gallon bottles, and 3-4 cases of the 16 oz plastic bottles. If Pope Francis thinks I'm going to confess over this, he's mistaken.

As a 40 year environmental professional, I can honestly say that bottled water is one of the biggest scams in history  if your concern is safety.  99+% of the potable water supplies in the US are exceedingly safe.

OTOH, there are two reasons bottled water has a purpose.

(1) Supply for emergencies
(2) the aesthetics of your tap water doesn't meet your standard.
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2016, 06:48:00 pm »
As a 40 year environmental professional, I can honestly say that bottled water is one of the biggest scams in history  if your concern is safety.  99+% of the potable water supplies in the US are exceedingly safe.

OTOH, there are two reasons bottled water has a purpose.

(1) Supply for emergencies
(2) the aesthetics of your tap water doesn't meet your standard.

Flint, Michigan water contamination has nothing on Washington, DC....which has a shocking higher amount of lead in their water.

The only reason you haven't heard about it?   There's no Republican to blame.

Also....you must admit....freshly bottled natural spring water is better than "purified" bottled water.
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Re: Dallas Morning News won't endorse Trump for president
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2016, 06:50:07 pm »
The relevance of print newspapers and the value of their endorsements is vastly overstated.

True.  I was a DMN subscriber for way too many years.  They had a pattern of viciously attacking the Republicans in their news stories and then meekly returning to endorse them on the editorial page.

Ghastly newspaper that recycled AP and NYT stories with no real reporting.

Interesting, though, that Trump is just too much for them to stomach on the endorsement thing.  I think many of us relate to that.
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2016, 06:52:11 pm »
They probably endorsed the man who started a war that has since, seen the wane of Christianity and the persecutions of Christians in the Mid-East.

If you mean The Last Good President ... yes, they did.  The rest of your statement is just Trump instigated BS.
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