A lot of conservative pundits have hitched their stars to Donald Trump. What if he loses?

[XenaLee]

He's been dead to me (for all intensive porpoises) since the McCain campaign, as has FOX, and talk radio generally. Since the Romney campaign I haven't listened at all, to any of it... To the degree that I have eschewed CableTV, and put my radio back to a country music station.

Now I get *all* my content (with the exception of music and local news on the radio) from the internet - I simply bought an old Vista era computer with HDMI and Blu-Ray DVD for $25, installed a wireless N USB dongle, and added a wireless keyboard. My TV is now just a monster computer monitor. Now my media is served in a true ala-carte fashion, and I couldn't be happier.

You can't imagine the difference in my blood pressure.
And I might add, part and parcel with that: I have had to view very, very little of Trump. It is worth it, if for no other reason, just for that.

Kudos to you for your ingenuity. 

I don't currently have blood pressure problems....but then....
this year ain't over yet.   

[Suppressed]

It was a poor field, and it paved the way for a guy like Trump to win, because like it or not, he touched on the issues the others feared to tread.    Now he may be a poor candidate,  but that says more about what the state of the GOP is more than anything.

@dfwgator

No, it was a good field, and one that showed the weakness of a First Past the Post system.  Voting systems designed to get the most acceptable candidate, such as ranked or others, would not have yielded the unpopular Trump.

[JustPassinThru]

How does someone who preaches "borders, language, culture" for years flip on a dime and start saying "well, we need someone to mow the lawn and sweep the floor..." and expect to have any credibility left? These people obviously have zero shame.

Was Hannity preaching "borders, language, culture"...?

Because that's Michael Weiner Savage's line.  As it happens, it's correct - but Savage Weiner holds his finger to the wind and figures out which way the crowd is running the better to be at the head of it.  Back ten years ago, when gas prices were rising, Savage Weiner ignored FACTS about WHY, and instead thumped the tub for GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION and criminal prosecution.

All he is is an agitator.  He just tries, or tried, to agitate the wrong group.  Informed people don't take to agitation.

And rambling monologues about his meatball sandwiches and bodily functions don't enlighten anyone.

And for Hannity to pick THIS fool to copy and mimic...words fail me.

[geronl]

Was Hannity preaching "borders, language, culture"...?

I meant Savage. But they all have preached conservative messages (more or less) and none of them stand by their own message when election time comes around. I don't understand why their audiences stick around, what is the attraction? For a long time I liked Limbaugh because I thought he meant most of it, but he has proven me wrong.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

A lot of people blame conservative pundits and the conservative media sphere for Trump, but nobody blames the voters? Why do they escape blame? They listen uncritically to charlatans like Limbaugh and Hannity on the radio and voted in a complete stooge because of cookie cutter, Mickey Mouse BS reasons like 'He tells it like it is" etc. etc.

[Vulcan]

A lot of people blame conservative pundits and the conservative media sphere for Trump, but nobody blames the voters? Why do they escape blame? They listen uncritically to charlatans like Limbaugh and Hannity on the radio and voted in a complete stooge because of cookie cutter, Mickey Mouse BS reasons like 'He tells it like it is" etc. etc.

I blame the mindless Trumpanzees who ignored and continue to ignore Trump's flip-flops, his lying, his duplicity and his long liberal past.  That includes morons like Sean Hannity.

[Norm Lenhart]

A lot of people blame conservative pundits and the conservative media sphere for Trump, but nobody blames the voters? Why do they escape blame? They listen uncritically to charlatans like Limbaugh and Hannity on the radio and voted in a complete stooge because of cookie cutter, Mickey Mouse BS reasons like 'He tells it like it is" etc. etc.

I blame the yellowback voters on a regular basis. Those posts are followed by  said yellowbacks spouting excuses of moral cowardace and refusal to take responsibility for their votes destroying America.

Then they blame actual conservatives that stand on principle and deride us for our 'purity'.

[Bigun]

"Ted Cruz, counting on a Trump defeat in November, has positioned himself as a principled holdout, apparently convinced that refusing to endorse his party's presidential nominee will boost his 2020 stock among Republican voters, who will realize they nominated the wrong candidate this time around."

Cruz is refusing to endorse Trump on principle. I don't know how much clearer this could be.

This writer, on the other hand, is the one with the agenda. He hopes to paint Cruz as a crass opportunist so it can be used against him at the next national election.

They ALWAYS tell you who they truly fear!  It NEVER fails!

[geronl]

A lot of people blame conservative pundits and the conservative media sphere for Trump, but nobody blames the voters? Why do they escape blame? They listen uncritically to charlatans like Limbaugh and Hannity on the radio and voted in a complete stooge because of cookie cutter, Mickey Mouse BS reasons like 'He tells it like it is" etc. etc.

The idea that conservative voters are more intelligent has been completely exploded

[Cripplecreek]

The idea that conservative voters are more intelligent has been completely exploded

Yup

[Norm Lenhart]

Yup

Is that sheep taken by any chance? She sure is pretty...

[Cripplecreek]

Is that sheep taken by any chance? She sure is pretty...

She's not taken but she's pretty wary. You see how she keeps checking her 6.

[Norm Lenhart]

She's not taken but she's pretty wary. You see how she keeps checking her 6.

She must be from Montana.

[roamer_1]

She must be from Montana.

Hay now...

[DCPatriot]

Nope, just a long-time Reagan-Kemp conservative who's disgusted by Trump and his alt-right supporters.  He's going to lose anyway, so I want him losing in a landslide so the rancid corpse of Trumpism will never rise again.

"Alt-Right" are the Trump supporters?

ROFL!!!!

Alt-Right are YOU guyz!   Out of control, hissy-fitting, extremist SOCONS. 

You're so far right in the Conservative movement that you've fallen off the grid.

Otherwise, you would put the nation first and stop Hillary.   By refusing to support Trump, you are making it easier for Hillary.

"Alt-Right" is the very definition of a RINO, er RAT  (Republicans against Trump)

Of course, we can set the timer for how long some of them will claim no association with the Party.

...their voter registrations be damned.

[Norm Lenhart]

Hay now...

Jus' sayin...those Montana guys are pretty Baaa.. d about that.

[sinkspur]

"Alt-Right" are the Trump supporters?

ROFL!!!!

Alt-Right are YOU guyz!   Out of control, hissy-fitting, extremist SOCONS. 

You're so far right in the Conservative movement that you've fallen off the grid.

Otherwise, you would put the nation first and stop Hillary.   By refusing to support Trump, you are making it easier for Hillary.

"Alt-Right" is the very definition of a RINO, er RAT  (Republicans against Trump)

Of course, w

e can set the timer for how long some of them will claim no association with the Party.

...their voter registrations be damned.

You're embarrassing yourself, DC. 

Your boy Bannon is the Chief of the alt-right:  Jew hating, Catholic hating, abuser of women.

I can understand why you wouldn't want that crowd around you, but you got 'em. They say so.

They're sticking like glue to Trump because he needs their votes.

Still won't be enough though.

[DCPatriot]

You're embarrassing yourself, DC. 

Your boy Bannon is the Chief of the alt-right:  Jew hating, Catholic hating, abuser of women.

I can understand why you wouldn't want that crowd around you, but you got 'em. They say so.

They're sticking like glue to Trump because he needs their votes.

Still won't be enough though.

Just remember....you bet and swore that Trump would be out by Super Tuesday...and then that he'd NEVER get the Nomination.

 

[geronl]

Otherwise, you would put the nation first and stop Hillary.   

If there was a Republican on the ballot, that'd be easy. But November 9 has become a Democrat primary.

[Bigun]

You're embarrassing yourself, DC. 

Your boy Bannon is the Chief of the alt-right:  Jew hating, Catholic hating, abuser of women.

I can understand why you wouldn't want that crowd around you, but you got 'em. They say so.

They're sticking like glue to Trump because he needs their votes.

Still won't be enough though.

He's been embarrassing himself for many months now!  Nothing new about that!
 

[Smokin Joe]

No, this will be different.  Those who hitched their wagons to the Trump train and its racialism and xenophobia will be dragged down with it.  It's a taint that won't clean off.   

After decades of this:

 

Does anyone want more?

 

[JustPassinThru]

You're embarrassing yourself, DC. 

Your boy Bannon is the Chief of the alt-right:  Jew hating, Catholic hating, abuser of women.

I can understand why you wouldn't want that crowd around you, but you got 'em. They say so.

They're sticking like glue to Trump because he needs their votes.

Still won't be enough though.

And DCP is not the only one embarrassing himself.

Trump is showing himself to be the unmitigated fool he is.

I don't believe he's an antisemite or a racist; but it's indicative of HOW POOR his judgment of people that he surrounds himself with bullies, as in Corey Lewandowski; or professional, proud, amoral LIARS and Dirty Tricksters like Roger Stone.  And now he's rolling in the muck with the Alt-Right crowd.  Does he have a CLUE what they're about?

Does he not CARE?  I guess to him it's all about **WINNING** and things like the character of his staff and campaign directors is, to him, immaterial.  Because to him, issues, and beliefs, and positions, are all immaterial.

What Trump doesn't know and doesn't seem to care to learn, is that to Republican voters they ARE...VERY material.  We see this going on and just wonder how much better he will be than a lying Clinton.  Or how much worse.

[Smokin Joe]

And DCP is not the only one embarrassing himself.

Trump is showing himself to be the unmitigated fool he is.

I don't believe he's an antisemite or a racist; but it's indicative of HOW POOR his judgment of people that he surrounds himself with bullies, as in Corey Lewandowski; or professional, proud, amoral LIARS and Dirty Tricksters like Roger Stone.  And now he's rolling in the muck with the Alt-Right crowd.  Does he have a CLUE what they're about?

Does he not CARE?  I guess to him it's all about **WINNING** and things like the character of his staff and campaign directors is, to him, immaterial.  Because to him, issues, and beliefs, and positions, are all immaterial.

What Trump doesn't know and doesn't seem to care to learn, is that to Republican voters they ARE...VERY material.  We see this going on and just wonder how much better he will be than a lying Clinton.  Or how much worse.

Well, the alt crowd is brash, often profane, and can hide their racism behind the thin veil of 'not being PC'. Naturally Trump would feel comfortable in that environment.

[Emjay]

I'd agree with that.  I think that nearly all of the GOP voters could have stomached any of the other candidates.  That's not to say that many would have been pleased if Jeb Bush (for example) had taken it... but GOP voters could have taken a deep breath, sighed, and said, "I can vote for him in November."

Yes.  There is not another of the original candidates that I could not vote for against Hillary.  Some would be hard to vote for, yeah, but not impossible.

[JustPassinThru]

I'd agree with that.  I think that nearly all of the GOP voters could have stomached any of the other candidates.  That's not to say that many would have been pleased if Jeb Bush (for example) had taken it... but GOP voters could have taken a deep breath, sighed, and said, "I can vote for him in November."

Yes.  There is not another of the original candidates that I could not vote for against Hillary.  Some would be hard to vote for, yeah, but not impossible.

They picked the loser out of the bunch.

The loser who sold himself as New, Different, Greater...a winner.

Who in fact was a lifelong lib and a big donor and social colleague of Her Hillaryness.

That's all too pat to be accidental, IMHO.