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Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
 
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August 22, 2016


Just before Christmas in 2013, Donald Trump predicted how his presidential ambitions would go. "I'm going to get in and all the polls are going to go crazy. I'm going to suck all the oxygen out of the room. I know how to work the media in a way that they will never take the lights off of me," Politico reports him saying. And he was right. But it came at a cost.

In 2015, the summer of Trump, he made himself the most important issue of the Republican primary. Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio wanted to talk about upward mobility, instead they talked about how Trump can't "insult his way to the presidency" or called him irresponsible. Ted Cruz wanted to talk about the Constitution, but his most memorable campaign lines were about the Donald. First saying that he won't get in a "cage match" with him, then saying he was a pathological liar and narcissist. All Trump, all the time worked for Trump in a 17-candidate field with frequent debates. And all his opponents became defined by how they reacted to him: Jeb wilted; Rubio malfunctioned; Cruz embraced and then denied him.

But the Trump show, in its second summer, is not working for Trump. In fact, it is distracting from all the bad news that could be hurting Hillary Clinton. Think of what a normal Republican candidate, with normal big-party resources, and an acceptable level of party unity would have done with the following stories that relate to Clinton's judgment and competence:

1. FBI Director James Comey's lashing indictment of the careless way Clinton handled classified material, with the heavy implication that under normal circumstances a person would lose their security clearance for this behavior.

2. The renewed bombing campaigns over Libya, where Clinton's "smart power" foreign policy created chaos, cost thousands of human lives, and created a Mediterranean beachhead for ISIS.

3. The tax documents of the Clintons revealing that they give nearly all their charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation, whose resources pay for much of their family's travel, and for staff that spends most of their time serving them.

4. The Clinton Foundation's announcement that it would — soon, eventually — cease taking foreign and corporate donations, even though any fair reading of these gifts makes the foundation look like a form of legal bribery.

Clinton should be happy that all of these stories come out and Trump doesn't have the resources or the common sense to put her on the defensive about them in any serious or sustained way. A normal Republican would put pressure on her to answer questions from the media. A normal Republican would be flooding the airwaves in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania detailing the foreign money that influences her decisions. A normal Republican would ask why our pilots are flying on the say-so of a barely legitimate Libyan government.

And putting Clinton on the defensive would likely cause her to make mistakes. She is horrible when she's on the spot. That's when she antagonizes the media against her, claiming she was "dead broke" in the days after buying a mansion in Chappaqua, or joking that you wipe a server "with a cloth." Alas, Trump's incompetent show goes on, and Clinton is able to focus her resources micro-targeting to every progressive group out there.

Occasionally, Trump tries in his awkward way to put in an effort, such as when he said that "Obama is the founder of ISIS." But the pattern over these news cycles is more telling. Trump is becoming known for clashing more with his party, and with his hired campaign staff more than with Clinton. For weeks, he has let his campaign be consumed by petty fighting with Paul Ryan, by his hiring decisions, even by his campaign's decision to source its internet strategy from random racist Twitter accounts.

Hillary Clinton should be thankful for the Trump show. "They will never take the lights off of me," he said. And so the light never shines on Hillary Clinton's pecuniary motives, her corrupted judgment, or her disastrous use of American air power in misbegotten wars. It never shines on the points of her campaign that demoralize the left wing or energize conservatives. It just stays on Trump, as his electoral hopes implode.

To put it very simply, the race for the presidency is a show in itself. And it is a fight. But Trump is fighting everyone but Clinton: the press, his former campaign managers, his children, and his own manifest lack of self-control.

If Trump wants to become president, he needs to cancel the Trump show, and replace it with something that actually features Hillary Clinton.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2016, 02:09:02 pm »
Trump was and is the only way Hillary can become president.

She may still manage to lose.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2016, 02:14:18 pm »
Trump was and is the only way Hillary can become president.

She may still manage to lose.

I don't think so.  Contrary to what Kellyanne Conway said yesterday, Trump is back to hurling insults on Twitter this morning:


Donald J. Trump
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Some day, when things calm down, I'll tell the real story of @JoeNBC and his very insecure long-time girlfriend, @morningmika. Two clowns!
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2016, 02:18:19 pm »
The campaign is about the people Trump is just the messenger.

The people are fed up with the corrupt elites telling them what to do.



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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2016, 02:21:59 pm »
The campaign is about the people Trump is just the messenger.

The people are fed up with the corrupt elites telling them what to do.

And the solution is another corrupt elite?


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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2016, 02:22:57 pm »
The campaign is about the people Trump is just the messenger.

The people are fed up with the corrupt elites telling them what to do.

If Trump is the messenger, does that mean all the people he is standing in for are as 'effed up as he is?
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2016, 02:25:31 pm »
The campaign is about the people Trump is just the messenger.

The people are fed up with the corrupt elites telling them what to do.

You picked the biggest Hockey Puck in the US to deliver the message. 

Dumbasses.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2016, 02:43:49 pm »
The campaign is about the people Trump is just the messenger.

The people are fed up with the corrupt elites telling them what to do.
So "the people" pick the epitome of a corrupt elite to send that message?

Does not compute.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2016, 02:45:17 pm »
The campaign is about the people Trump is just the messenger.

The people are fed up with the corrupt elites telling them what to do.

Now.......... this makes no sense whatsoever.

What kind of "people" want a corrupt elite to be the "messenger" if they are fed up with corrupt elites?

To whom does this seem logical??

Who ARE these "people" anyway??
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2016, 02:47:05 pm »
The campaign is about the people Trump is just the messenger.

The people are fed up with the corrupt elites telling them what to do.
The Great Orange Pumpkin tRumpkin is a member of the corrupt elite.  He's been buying politicians for years for his own benefit. 

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2016, 02:48:59 pm »
Well that's pretty obvious.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2016, 02:50:33 pm »
Trump was and is the only way Hillary can become president.

She may still manage to lose.

I keep on hoping she finds a way to come to her highest and best use.

As compost.  She's well on the way; we just need to hope that things come together for everyone.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2016, 02:52:17 pm »
And the solution is another corrupt elite?

Trump is a wealthy well connected outsider but I see no evidence of undue influence, in fact quite the opposite.

Its not like he briefs the Sec. of State about what he wants done in country X or forms a company that gets awarded a precious metals concession.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2016, 02:56:22 pm »
Trump is a wealthy well connected outsider but I see no evidence of undue influence, in fact quite the opposite.

Its not like he briefs the Sec. of State about what he wants done in country X or forms a company that gets awarded a precious metals concession.

Trump is not an "outsider."  And if you'd do your homework, you'd know how deeply corrupt he is.

Stick around this forum for a while longer and read before you post.  You'll find out how completely corrupt Donald Trump is.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2016, 02:56:59 pm »
He's been buying politicians for years for his own benefit.

@beandog Really..is that why he's been under a continuous tax audit for the entire length of the Obama presidency?

Seem like a rather odd benefit...

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2016, 02:57:26 pm »
Now.......... this makes no sense whatsoever.

What kind of "people" want a corrupt elite to be the "messenger" if they are fed up with corrupt elites?

To whom does this seem logical??

Who ARE these "people" anyway??

Hold on, now.  Let's not confuse Trump voters with Trump himself.  A lot of Trump's supporters are people with legitimate fears, grievances, and frustrations who have been misled by a demagogue.  The fact that Trump has bamboozled them, does nothing to detract from the very real problems they face.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2016, 02:58:25 pm »
Trump is a wealthy well connected outsider but I see no evidence of undue influence, in fact quite the opposite.
Well-connected is the definition of corrupt. He's part of the New York political machine: pay a campaign contribution, get a government favor. There are multiple photos of him being jovial with the Clintons.

He's as corrupt as they come.
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2016, 02:58:54 pm »
Hold on, now.  Let's not confuse Trump voters with Trump himself.  A lot of Trump's supporters are people with legitimate fears, grievances, and frustrations who have been misled by a demagogue.  The fact that Trump has bamboozled them, does nothing to detract from the very real problems they face.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2016, 02:59:19 pm »
I don't think so.  Contrary to what Kellyanne Conway said yesterday, Trump is back to hurling insults on Twitter this morning:


Donald J. Trump
‏@realDonaldTrump
Some day, when things calm down, I'll tell the real story of @JoeNBC and his very insecure long-time girlfriend, @morningmika. Two clowns!

Someone made this astute observation......

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The weird thing is, Joe and Mika are two of only 46 people Trump follows. They're *friends*! #morningjoe

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2016, 03:02:00 pm »
@beandog Really..is that why he's been under a continuous tax audit for the entire length of the Obama presidency?

Seem like a rather odd benefit...

Brilliant observation. Thank you. (...will go completely over #NeverTrump's head...that, or they'll simply  ignore that buzzing of cognitive dissonance in their heads.)
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2016, 03:02:59 pm »
Well-connected is the definition of corrupt.

He's part of the New York political machine: pay a campaign contribution, get a government favor. There are multiple photos of him being jovial with the Clintons.

He's as corrupt as they come.

Is that the entirety of your corruption evidence... public record political contributions and some wedding photos?

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2016, 03:04:09 pm »
@beandog Really..is that why he's been under a continuous tax audit for the entire length of the Obama presidency?

Seem like a rather odd benefit...

He has actually been under audit for all of Obama and Bush's presidency if not before. Someone with his financial background will always be under audit. ROI for the IRS.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2016, 03:08:41 pm »
The campaign is about the people Trump is just the messenger.

The people are fed up with the corrupt elites telling them what to do.

Trump aligned himself long ago with the DEMS and the Washington cartel; he's an insider. He proclaims how great he is, how rich he is and how right he is.  He is a narcissistic, psychopathic demagogue.  He has tapped into the fears and frustrations of the electorate and unfortunately they bought into his sales pitch.
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2016, 03:11:17 pm »
Someone made this astute observation......

More of a shame on them observation if its true.

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« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2016, 03:14:24 pm »
Someone with his financial background will always be under audit.

@AbaraXas  Hard to tell what you're referring to regarding his financial background. Are all Wharton B-school grads being audited?