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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2016, 03:16:42 pm »
@beandog Really..is that why he's been under a continuous tax audit for the entire length of the Obama presidency?

Seem like a rather odd benefit...

The IRS is not all politics.  They frequently root out corruption of people skirting the tax code.  And they have a nose for it.  Perhaps Trump is in their crosshairs because he has behaved in a manner that deserves it.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2016, 03:17:41 pm »
@AbaraXas  Hard to tell what you're referring to regarding his financial background. Are all Wharton B-school grads being audited?

No.  Just those with a "Foundation" who use it as a personal slush fund.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2016, 03:18:15 pm »
Trump aligned himself long ago with the DEMS and the Washington cartel;

Strange alliance...this is the same group that trying so hard to stop him. Are you sure you've got your facts straight?

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« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2016, 03:19:41 pm »
The IRS is not all politics. 

Lois Lerner disagrees.


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« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2016, 03:20:00 pm »
@beandog Really..is that why he's been under a continuous tax audit for the entire length of the Obama presidency?

Seem like a rather odd benefit...

His business operations have probably been on fairly regular audit ever since they reached a certain level of activity.  That is standard operating procedure for the IRS.  They have a separate division that concentrates on large and medium-sized businesses exclusively - the LMSB - and in some very large businesses, the IRS is usually given permanent space for what amounts to a permanent audit.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2016, 03:20:45 pm »
Strange alliance...this is the same group that trying so hard to stop him. Are you sure you've got your facts straight?

I can answer for her...no, she's just bitter Trump won.

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« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2016, 03:20:46 pm »
Lois Lerner disagrees.



No.  She disagrees that the tax-exempt division isn't all about politics, but she doesn't have authority over the entire beast.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2016, 03:23:25 pm »
The campaign is about the people Trump is just the messenger.

The people are fed up with the corrupt elites telling them what to do.

So you think a self described corrupt elite picking fights with low ratings morning shows is speaking for the people? Interesting.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2016, 03:27:19 pm »
Hold on, now.  Let's not confuse Trump voters with Trump himself.  A lot of Trump's supporters are people with legitimate fears, grievances, and frustrations who have been misled by a demagogue.  The fact that Trump has bamboozled them, does nothing to detract from the very real problems they face.

I'm not confusing anyone with anyone else.

If you have legitimate fears, you don't place your trust in a corrupt liar who doesn't believe what you believe to assuage those fears.

Longmire claimed that Trump is an outsider who is the answer for people who are sick of corrupt elites.

If people don't do enough investigating (which in this case doesn't take much, since Trump is so overtly corrupt), then the problem is theirs, as is the fact that the problems they face will get worse under a corrupt demagogue like Trump.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2016, 03:30:02 pm »
@AbaraXas  Hard to tell what you're referring to regarding his financial background. Are all Wharton B-school grads being audited?

I would venture to say most. What I mean by 'his financial background' is someone who has highly complex and highly valuable asset and liability holdings, especially when they also run tax exempt foundations are hitting all the red flags for audit. In addition, other red flags he mostly likely has include foreign accounts, writing of many property and vehicle expenses as business expenses, reporting losses in some areas of his business to reduce tax bills, and being in the highest income category. Add to that being incorporated in New York State where you have a double chance of a State tax audit as well. If you look at the 'red flags' that trigger IRS audits for high income earners, he checks off every single one.


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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2016, 03:31:25 pm »
I can answer for her...no, she's just bitter Trump won.

So she was bitter Trump won back in 2012 and before, before he won, when he was still identifying as a Democrat and even praising Obama and Hillary? 

She must have a really great time machine.

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« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2016, 03:35:04 pm »
I can answer for her...no, she's just bitter Trump won.

So this supposed "bitterness" causes @libertybele to bring up actual facts about Trump's corruption that you pretend don't exist?

Your attribution of bitterness to libertybele is almost comical coming from the angriest, surliest, most resentful poster on this forum.

liberty posts myriads of facts while you post nothing but angry bile due to your own bitterness.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2016, 04:29:58 pm »
Strange alliance...this is the same group that trying so hard to stop him. Are you sure you've got your facts straight?

What you fail to remember is Trump's objective is to hand Hillary the keys to the kingdom.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2016, 04:34:36 pm »
I can answer for her...no, she's just bitter Trump won.

Do me a favor AC and don't answer for me; you don't know me, nor can you attest to how I feel.  You are notorious for trying to put words into people's mouths.  The only one that seems to spew hatred and bitterness is you since you became a Trump supporter.  Sad. 

Trump winning is a loss for the entire country.  I'm not bitter or angry, I'm saddened and fearful to what he's done to this country. He is not of pure heart.  He is a sick-minded twisted individual.
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Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2016, 04:41:06 pm »
@beandog Really..is that why he's been under a continuous tax audit for the entire length of the Obama presidency?

Seem like a rather odd benefit...

He was under audit long before Obama.  Apparently, it's been an ongoing audit scenario since GWB.  My question is....what the hell is Trump hiding?  I suspect that I already know, but suspicions can oft times be even worse than the reality.  So Trump needs to release those tax returns ASAP.  He's the first presidential candidate that hasn't since 1976 (read that just the other day).   Maybe the real reason he won't is because he knows his campaign isn't really serious and isn't going anywhere.  Well....except for handing Hillary the presidency on a gold platter.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2016, 04:43:39 pm »
So this supposed "bitterness" causes @libertybele to bring up actual facts about Trump's corruption that you pretend don't exist?

Your attribution of bitterness to libertybele is almost comical coming from the angriest, surliest, most resentful poster on this forum.

liberty posts myriads of facts while you post nothing but angry bile due to your own bitterness.

And those are some of his better qualities.....lol!
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« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2016, 05:11:47 pm »
@beandog Really..is that why he's been under a continuous tax audit for the entire length of the Obama presidency?
He's not under a continuous audit. There's no such thing. Besides, he has enough shady business deals under his belt to legitimately warrant being audited.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2016, 05:17:16 pm »
He was under audit long before Obama.  Apparently, it's been an ongoing audit scenario since GWB. 

His own words, he has been audited every year since 2002.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/donald-trump-tax-audit-letter/


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« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2016, 05:31:29 pm »
It was always going to be about Trump if he were the nominee, and it was always stupid.

This is how he kills the GOP, not that I actually care any more

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« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2016, 05:32:57 pm »
He's not under a continuous audit. There's no such thing. Besides, he has enough shady business deals under his belt to legitimately warrant being audited.

Some corporations apparently have an IRS agent in an office full time.  :shrug:

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« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2016, 05:40:22 pm »
Lois Lerner disagrees.

So you're saying that everyone the IRS audits is politically motivated?   Really?
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2016, 06:04:26 pm »
So you're saying that everyone the IRS audits is politically motivated?   Really?
In all fairness, this is the same IRS that targeted the Tea Party in Obama's first term. So he's got good reason to be suspicious... but as someone stated, his IRS troubles long predate Obama.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2016, 06:07:40 pm »
In all fairness, this is the same IRS that targeted the Tea Party in Obama's first term. So he's got good reason to be suspicious... but as someone stated, his IRS troubles long predate Obama.

But in fairness to reality, the Tea Party targeting was probably a small % of the total.  I just said, "not all are political."  And the fact that Trumps audits predate the recent politicization supports that assertion.  Trump is being audited because of his own business practices.
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Re: Donald Trump has made this election all about himself. That was stupid.
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2016, 06:25:40 pm »
So you think a self described corrupt elite picking fights with low ratings morning shows is speaking for the people? Interesting.

Trump doesn't start fights...he ends them.

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« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2016, 06:27:05 pm »
Trump doesn't start fights...he ends them.

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