Odyssey of a NeverTrumper

[roamer_1]

I'm NOT going to play the hostage dilemma game  anymore! EVER!

 

[DCPatriot]

I'm NOT going to play the hostage dilemma game  anymore! EVER!

Earl....while you and I many not be around ten years from now, the country we're going
to be leaving our children and grandchildren will be decided this November 8th.

Lose the hate...and hold your nose again, like a big boy.

Then go home and take a long shower.   

[sinkspur]

Once I screwed up badly, and was seduced by the Ross Perot song.

The irony of your statement is rich..........Thanks for a hearty belly laugh.

[Bigun]

Earl....while you and I many not be around ten years from now, the country we're going
to be leaving our children and grandchildren will be decided this November 8th.

Lose the hate...and hold your nose again, like a big boy.

Then go home and take a long shower.   

KMA David!  Not this time! Not EVER again!

[aligncare]

#NeverTrump speaks of irony? Never Trump = president Hillary. Now, that's irony for you.

[LonestarDream]

 

If you've been posting on Conservative boards for years....and I believe you have...then you're primarily affiliated and vote with the Republican Party.

The Primaries are over.   Therefore, the infighting should be over.

For now...your moral vote must be decided on leaving America in the hands of Hillary, "There's only the Fight", Clinton...or take a chance on a person that loves American with all his heart, is in good health, and a successful businessman...even though he's become a caricature of himself.   

"As you ramble on through life, brother, whatever by your goal.....keep your eye upon the donut, and not upon the hole"

[don-o]

Can we please not go there?

[LonestarDream]

 

I have enough information, to conclude she will do less, and he will do more to secure the safety of my family.

To disregard my family's safety is not moral.

[DCPatriot]

KMA David!  Not this time! Not EVER again!

    

[DCPatriot]

Can we please not go there?

It's cool, @don-o

Before Donald Trump, I would have driven to his house and cut his grass if he needed help for any reason.

Trump does that to people, it seems.   

[Ghost Bear]

This thread more than any other demonstrates the utter futility of political arguments.

Totally pointless.

[don-o]

This thread more than any other demonstrates the utter futility of political arguments.

Totally pointless.

Thanks for  sharing.

[RoosGirl]

If everyone who cannot stomach either Hillary or Trump actually followed their conscience and voted that way neither of them would be sworn in as president om January 20, 2017.

QFT

[don-o]

I am sure that you've all heard an expression along these lines before: "you can't argue someone out of a proposition that they didn't arrive at using reason and logic."  In my view, Don has been attempting to "argue" and reason with people that are in a deep state of denial. For if you can not accept the clear fact: if Trump is not elected, then Hillary will be sworn in on January 20, 2017, then you won't be accepting much beyond that.

I detect a tendency to equate reason with “Jedi mind tricks.” I am beginning to understand that. I am ashamed to admit this, but I only recently discovered that sophistry predated philosophy.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,210473.0.html

The word “pragmatism” was mentioned in relation to my argument. Pragmatists ARE Sophists. I am neither. My starting point is John 1:1.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

This is absolute, not relative Truth.

[aligncare]

This thread more than any other demonstrates the utter futility of political arguments.

Totally pointless.

Thanks for  sharing.

I think Ghost Bear is onto something. What's the point - for those of us with a job and a life - to piss time away arguing with intransigence?

#NeverTrump is DNC-approved to be 100 percent obdurate and immovable. And that's just some of their better qualities...let's just say I wont go into intelligence quotient here.

[Ghost Bear]

I think Ghost Bear is onto something. What's the point - for those of us with a job and a life - to piss time away arguing with intransigence?

#NeverTrump is DNC-approved to be 100 percent obdurate and immovable. And that's just some of their better qualities...let's just say I wont go into intelligence quotient here.

I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.   

[beandog]

I think Ghost Bear is onto something. What's the point - for those of us with a job and a life - to piss time away arguing with intransigence?

#NeverTrump is DNC-approved to be 100 percent obdurate and immovable. And that's just some of their better qualities...let's just say I wont go into intelligence quotient here.

Supporters of the Donald should never discuss "intelligence quotient" because they would lose every time.  As far as "better qualities", at least, unlike tRump supporters, we have some.

[INVAR]

Earl....while you and I many not be around ten years from now, the country we're going
to be leaving our children and grandchildren will be decided this November 8th.

Lose the hate...and hold your nose again, like a big boy.

Then go home and take a long shower.   

So when was it exactly that you agreed that the Presidency was a monarchy??

The country our posterity will inherit was permanently decided back in 2008 and 2012.

It took many decades to get there, but when the people tossed out our Foundational principles and religious heritage, it was a done deal.

Only a religious and moral people are capable of maintaining a Constitutional Republic.  Since we are no longer those people, a Republic we no longer are.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Earl....while you and I many not be around ten years from now, the country we're going
to be leaving our children and grandchildren will be decided this November 8th.

Lose the hate...and hold your nose again, like a big boy.

Then go home and take a long shower.   

Oh no, just heck no. I want my kids to know their Daddy stood by right and wrong no matter the consequences; I only can only pray I don't fail them in that. I want my girls to grow up and know that a real man lives by Davy Crockett's old saying. Be sure you are right, and then go ahead. If I don't live that example who are they going pick when they grow up?
You must do what you think is right and so must I, but in my mind a real man doesn't compromise his principles for expediency. I'm not going to sacrifice my sacred honor for Donald J. Trump, not by a durn sight.  The winners and the losers aren't determined on this earth anyways.

[roamer_1]

Oh no, just heck no. I want my kids to know their Daddy stood by right and wrong no matter the consequences; I only can only pray I don't fail them in that. I want my girls to grow up and know that a real man lives by Davy Crockett's old saying. Be sure you are right, and then go ahead. If I don't live that example who are they going pick when they grow up?
You must do what you think is right and so must I, but in my mind a real man doesn't compromise his principles for expediency. I'm not going to sacrifice my sacred honor for Donald J. Trump, not by a durn sight.  The winners and the losers aren't determined on this earth anyways.

Absolutely damn straight.

[Smokin Joe]

Oh no, just heck no. I want my kids to know their Daddy stood by right and wrong no matter the consequences; I only can only pray I don't fail them in that. I want my girls to grow up and know that a real man lives by Davy Crockett's old saying. Be sure you are right, and then go ahead. If I don't live that example who are they going pick when they grow up?
You must do what you think is right and so must I, but in my mind a real man doesn't compromise his principles for expediency. I'm not going to sacrifice my sacred honor for Donald J. Trump, not by a durn sight.  The winners and the losers aren't determined on this earth anyways.

I couldn't have said it better!

[RoosGirl]

Oh no, just heck no. I want my kids to know their Daddy stood by right and wrong no matter the consequences; I only can only pray I don't fail them in that. I want my girls to grow up and know that a real man lives by Davy Crockett's old saying. Be sure you are right, and then go ahead. If I don't live that example who are they going pick when they grow up?
You must do what you think is right and so must I, but in my mind a real man doesn't compromise his principles for expediency. I'm not going to sacrifice my sacred honor for Donald J. Trump, not by a durn sight.  The winners and the losers aren't determined on this earth anyways.

Yes!

We think too much.  We don't need to be amateur philosophers to understand right and wrong.  We don't need to choose a president based on who is better.  We pick who we think is best, regardless of who the man next to me picks.

[Sighlass]

Oh no, just heck no. I want my kids to know their Daddy stood by right and wrong no matter the consequences; I only can only pray I don't fail them in that. I want my girls to grow up and know that a real man lives by Davy Crockett's old saying. Be sure you are right, and then go ahead. If I don't live that example who are they going pick when they grow up?
You must do what you think is right and so must I, but in my mind a real man doesn't compromise his principles for expediency. I'm not going to sacrifice my sacred honor for Donald J. Trump, not by a durn sight.  The winners and the losers aren't determined on this earth anyways.

Couldn't of said it any better. 

[don-o]

Yes!

We think too much.  We don't need to be amateur philosophers to understand right and wrong.  We don't need to choose a president based on who is better.  We pick who we think is best, regardless of who the man next to me picks.

That makes me sad. I thought Conservatives placed a great value on thinking.

[musiclady]

That makes me sad. I thought Conservatives placed a great value on thinking.

If you've been following the Trump campaign, you lost that ideal a very long time ago.

I used to think that Conservatives were the thinkers too, until very recently.

Trump's popularity proves one of two things.   Either conservatives are illogical, emotional and unethical, or Trump followers are not conservative.

There really isn't another option.

But to RoosGirl's point.

Sometimes overthinking removes our 'reality' from the spiritual, and we forget the basics of what is right and what is wrong.

The book of Romans deals a lot with the foolishness of the philosophers of the age, vs the reality and truth in God's word.

I recommend you re-read it.