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Roe vs. Wade will be overturned if Donald Trump wins, Mike Pence says
Thursday, July 26, 2016; 1:23 P.M.
REPORTING FROM GRAND RAPIDS, MICH.
Seema Mehta

GOP vice presidential nominee Mike Pence on Thursday predicted Roe vs. Wade, the landmark Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion, would be overturned if Donald Trump is elected president.

“I’m pro-life and I don’t apologize for it,” he said during a town hall meeting here. “We’ll see Roe vs. Wade consigned to the ash heap of history where it belongs.”

The comments — made in a conservative stronghold that strongly supported Texas Sen. Ted Cruz over Trump in the Michigan primary — were part of a broader argument Pence has been making on the stakes of the election: Voters need to consider that the next president will likely select multiple Supreme Court justices.

Pence said Trump would appoint strict constitutionalists in the mold of the late Justice Antonin Scalia.

“While we’re choosing a president for the next four years, this next president will make decisions that will impact our Supreme Court for the next 40,” he said. “… Go tell your neighbors and your friends, for the sake of the rule of law, for the sake of sanctity of life, for the sake of our 2nd Amendment, for the sake of all our other God-given liberties, we must insure the next president appointing justices to the Supreme Court is Donald Trump.”

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I bet TOS is flipping out at Pence being too conservative.
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I bet TOS is flipping out at Pence being too conservative.

No bet  ^-^

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3454153/posts?q=1&;page=101

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If you want to drive even more disenfranchised Burnie voters to not stay home in Nov and vote Hillary, this is the way to do it- touching the third rail of politics before you have even been elected.
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.  .  .  part of a broader argument Pence has been making on the stakes of the election: Voters need to consider that the next president will likely select multiple Supreme Court justices.

If voters had considered that, then we would have a former solicitor general  who knows the Court intimately and who has actually fought in the trenches as our candidate instead of one who will continue giving taxpayer dollars to Planned Parenthood and who believes that Roe is settled law.
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I was in the pro-life movement in 2004 but it was more in regards to going to Church, a few vigils at an abortion clinic.

It seems like the pro-life movement has really picked up steam. Things should have been accomplished when Republicans had control of the legislature and presidency in the past; but I don't know. It does seem a lot of progress is being made now.

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I can only imagine your eyes widened to comical proportions.
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Trump Pence will fullfill what Reagan started and let's not forget, Reagan signed that bill as governor, sometimes the most conservative are where you don't expect it.

Few have a pro-life record that compares to Pence, only some real doers do like Perry or Walker.  Even then, Pence has it as both a legislator and governor.

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No bet  ^-^

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3454153/posts?q=1&;page=101

What an amazing collection of deginerates.

Might as well be the DU...

Wonder what Mr. "pro-life" Robinson thinks about that...

What a joke that place has become. Utter filth and garbage filled with trash.
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Trump Pence will fullfill what Reagan started and let's not forget, Reagan signed that bill as governor, sometimes the most conservative are where you don't expect it.

Few have a pro-life record that compares to Pence, only some real doers do like Perry or Walker.  Even then, Pence has it as both a legislator and governor.

No offense, but what about Trump makes you think he is pro-life? Pence has positioned himself in the past, but he has also shown himself to be a coward in the heat of the battle.

Trump: he supported literally sucking the brains from half born babies no more than 15 years ago... And supported candidates who supported it just 5 years ago...

Trump claims to be pro-life, but given where he was raised and his 5 decades of liberal belief, I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Re: Roe vs. Wade will be overturned if Donald Trump wins, Mike Pence says
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2016, 05:44:47 am »
What an amazing collection of deginerates.

Might as well be the DU...

Wonder what Mr. "pro-life" Robinson thinks about that...

What a joke that place has become. Utter filth and garbage filled with trash.

Darwinism at work.
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Re: Roe vs. Wade will be overturned if Donald Trump wins, Mike Pence says
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2016, 06:55:12 am »
What an amazing collection of deginerates.

Might as well be the DU...

Wonder what Mr. "pro-life" Robinson thinks about that...

What a joke that place has become. Utter filth and garbage filled with trash.

"Watch Pence is a Cruz plant looking out for 2020."

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And the really amazing part is.....

they ain't kidding!
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Re: Roe vs. Wade will be overturned if Donald Trump wins, Mike Pence says
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2016, 10:55:32 am »
From Mike Pence:

“I’m pro-life and I don’t apologize for it,” he said during a town hall meeting here. “We’ll see Roe vs. Wade consigned to the ash heap of history where it belongs.”

“While we’re choosing a president for the next four years, this next president will make decisions that will impact our Supreme Court for the next 40,” he said. “… Go tell your neighbors and your friends, for the sake of the rule of law, for the sake of sanctity of life, for the sake of our 2nd Amendment, for the sake of all our other God-given liberties, we must insure the next president appointing justices to the Supreme Court is Donald Trump.”
Pence's proclamations may encourage pro-life to vote against Hillary, voting Trump/Pence 2016. There are however, no illusions that Trump will [definitely] appoint pro-life to the Supreme Court. The Good Lord allowed five [correct me if there were more] 100% pro-life men to run for our country. There were others [with rape/incest exceptions] on that stage, too. And as a collective, we sat on our "ash heaps" [interesting choice of words by Pence], letting these good guys fall from contention. :shrug:

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"In my view there is an easy, universal barometer we can use to evaluate all cultures: how do they treat their most vulnerable members...those whom Jesus so aptly referred to as 'the least of these'? I would go so far as to say that a society that does not...defend the defenseless, [protect] all human life, is really not a civilized society after all. As for all my pro-choice friends out there, we can agree to disagree...and keep on arguing (until I win)." -Bobby Jindal, from Leadership and Crisis
But few people showed interest in [the pro-life] Jindal [saying he wasn't a conservative at all]. And now vomitus like this [regarding Pence]:

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http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3454153/posts?page=117#117 [this comment is posted twice!]

100% agree. STFU!!!!!!!!!!!
It could all be over because of this. WOW how f’ing stupid to go anywhere near this right now.
I am 1000% Pro Life but we don’t need this brought up now!!!
I’m absolutely incredulous over this. Stick to the script of terrorism, immigration, economy, and sc picks. For cryin out loud my 10 yo could win this race. Pence screwed the pooch here big time

117 posted on 7/28/2016, 9:54:32 PM by bantam
Roe v. Wade is not just the law that has allowed the end of life for countless babies [and damages all connected; the mother, the father, the grandparents, and so on, too], many feel the future of Roe v. Wade will be the [ultimate] deciding factor as to whether America lives on or not as well.

However, the following might be taken into consideration first:

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We are only channels of grace to others in the measure that we are possessed of God’s grace ourselves. Let me repeat in the clearest words in my disposal. I would restate our thesis in two propositions. Proposition #1 There is no stopping abortion without an ocean of grace from Jesus Christ. No way will human means stop abortion.

#2 The principal source of this grace is the Holy Eucharist. -Fr. John A. Hardon

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In the event one does not know of Fr. Hardon, he and Mother Teresa [also a champion of the Blessed Sacrament] were best friends on this earth (he would frequently pray the rosary with her and her sisters), and MT, by the way of a letter, recommended his books to my husband for him to read: http://www.fightingirishthomas.com/2006/10/my-letter-from-mother-teresa.html ~ and there are a host of other religious who have mirrored their words on how to end abortion. Possibly it is the prayers of the faithful that have brought us Pence in this regard; a Hail Mary pass if you will. Certainly it is their prayers that have formed his words.


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Pray for pro-life. (And for all politicians too!)
America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe v. Wade has deformed a great nation. The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government. They are every human being's entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be declared to be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or a sovereign. -Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta

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Re: Roe vs. Wade will be overturned if Donald Trump wins, Mike Pence says
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2016, 11:22:08 am »
It won't be but its nice that at least one of them is sounding like a conservative.

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Re: Roe vs. Wade will be overturned if Donald Trump wins, Mike Pence says
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2016, 12:11:37 pm »
I don't know if Roe V Wade will ever be overturned, as much as I would like it to be.
At least we may get Justices that won't repeal laws like the one the overturned in Texas recently.
That would be a good start.

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Re: Roe vs. Wade will be overturned if Donald Trump wins, Mike Pence says
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2016, 12:15:40 pm »
zero chance of that happening with this social freak as President.
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2016, 01:30:52 pm »
I can only imagine your eyes widened to comical proportions.

@Crazieman

The site was headed that way as early as last year, when that tic-ridden nut, CringingNegativismNetwork, made a habit of stating that he didn't care about abortion, it didn't matter to him, etc.  In past times, JimRob would have zotted him right away for that, but CNN was a Trumpbot, so he got away with it.

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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2016, 01:38:00 pm »
@Crazieman

The site was headed that way as early as last year, when that tic-ridden nut, CringingNegativismNetwork, made a habit of stating that he didn't care about abortion, it didn't matter to him, etc.  In past times, JimRob would have zotted him right away for that, but CNN was a Trumpbot, so he got away with it.

CringingNegativismNetwork is also a big fan of Obamacare if I recall correctly. He thinks it doesn't go far enough and we really need fully socialized medicine.

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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2016, 01:38:17 pm »
"Watch Pence is a Cruz plant looking out for 2020."

 :silly:

And the really amazing part is.....

they ain't kidding!

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That particular poster just three weeks ago in response to the question "who should be Trump's VP":

"Sessions is awesome, but he’s up there in age and needed in Senate. Pence could be good. Not for Newt or Christie."

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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2016, 01:40:00 pm »
CringingNegativismNetwork is also a big fan of Obamacare if I recall correctly. He thinks it doesn't go far enough and we really need fully socialized medicine.

@Cripplecreek

Yep, he certainly is.  So is entropy12, I think.  He's the guy who thinks Trump should be president because he's tall.

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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2016, 01:51:16 pm »
@Cripplecreek

Yep, he certainly is.  So is entropy12, I think.  He's the guy who thinks Trump should be president because he's tall.

Too ripe for a hand comment.
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Re: Roe vs. Wade will be overturned if Donald Trump wins, Mike Pence says
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2016, 02:39:59 pm »
What an amazing collection of deginerates.

Might as well be the DU...

Wonder what Mr. "pro-life" Robinson thinks about that...

What a joke that place has become. Utter filth and garbage filled with trash.
I have come to the conclusion that Robinson was never conservative, pro life, pro military or any of the other things he claimed to be.  What he did was find a niche where he could do very little and make good money.  On top of that he found a group of people who would worship his every word, just like they do the Donald.   They need to be told what to think and who to worship.  They are as bad as, if not worse than, Obama supporters.  This whole election season has been very eye opening.

 It is mainly because of the Donald's supporters, both here and on FR, that I can not vote for him.  tRump is bad enough but his supporters are just awful people.  I'm not talking about those who feel the need to vote for him to keep the witch from winning, I'm talking about his hardcore butt kissers.  I will never trust a single thing any of them say again.

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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2016, 02:45:19 pm »
It is mainly because of the Donald's supporters, both here and on FR, that I can not vote for him.  tRump is bad enough but his supporters are just awful people. 

They claim its being politically incorrect but my grandfather wasn't PC and he managed it without going out of his way to lie, demean, and generally be an ass.

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Re: Roe vs. Wade will be overturned if Donald Trump wins, Mike Pence says
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2016, 02:54:26 pm »
If you want to drive even more disenfranchised Burnie voters to not stay home in Nov and vote Hillary, this is the way to do it- touching the third rail of politics before you have even been elected.

Agreed.  Also, what of the venerable conservative judicial tradition of stare decisis?  Whatever you may think of Roe, it's been the law for over forty years, and every American woman of child bearing age has had the choice right her entire adult life.   This is a profoundly political issue, and the Court will lose credibility by suddenly taking away a right that women have enjoyed for years and years.

If Roe is to be overturned it should be by means of a Constitutional amendment. 
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