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Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All #DonaldTrump
« on: July 18, 2016, 03:10:59 pm »
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....Schwartz thought about publishing an article describing his reservations about Trump, but he hesitated, knowing that, since he’d cashed in on the flattering “Art of the Deal,” his credibility and his motives would be seen as suspect. Yet watching the campaign was excruciating. Schwartz decided that if he kept mum and Trump was elected he’d never forgive himself. In June, he agreed to break his silence and give his first candid interview about the Trump he got to know while acting as his Boswell.

“I put lipstick on a pig,” he said. “I feel a deep sense of remorse that I contributed to presenting Trump in a way that brought him wider attention and made him more appealing than he is.” He went on, “I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.”

If he were writing “The Art of the Deal” today, Schwartz said, it would be a very different book with a very different title. Asked what he would call it, he answered, “The Sociopath.”.....

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all




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Re: Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All #DonaldTrump
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2016, 03:19:12 pm »
Four months from now, the entire panaroma of Trump sycophants will be expressing their regrets and wondering how they could have been so stupid.
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Re: Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All #DonaldTrump
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2016, 03:26:10 pm »
...says you, an admitted Donald Trump hater.

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Re: Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All #DonaldTrump
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2016, 03:33:00 pm »
Four months from now, the entire panaroma of Trump sycophants will be expressing their regrets and wondering how they could have been so stupid.

I have said numerous times my main concern is mentally disturbed Trump having the nuclear red button.  I sincerely do think he will start WWIII.

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Re: Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All #DonaldTrump
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2016, 03:34:32 pm »
...says you, an admitted Donald Trump hater.

Actually, I didn't give an opinion whatsoever, everything I posted was directly cited from the article and is parenthetical quotes of the interviewee.

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2016, 03:39:34 pm »
This article details exactly all the things #NeverTrump fears.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2016, 03:47:43 pm »
And the reason for believing this guy who claims he writes lies for money is?
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2016, 04:03:33 pm »
And the reason for believing this guy who claims he writes lies for money is?

Oh, but that was so LONG ago...you can TRUST him now!

(Isn't that the way you Trump supporters play the game?)

Edit: to remove "Trumpists"...a term intended to be non-offensive, but is evidently too harsh for the snowflakes.
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2016, 04:05:24 pm »
...the entire panaroma of Trump sycophants...

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Re: Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All #DonaldTrump
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2016, 04:06:12 pm »
And the reason for believing this guy who claims he writes lies for money is?

Are you talking about Trump who brags about lying for the deal in The Art of the Deal, or Schwartz who was doing the job of a ghostwriter and speaking for his client?

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2016, 04:09:32 pm »
So a guy who admits he's a liar and lies for money makes a claim that mirrors the DNC talking points of Trump with no collaborating support anywhere for his claim and the Anti's fall all over themselves trying to defend it.

Conservatives are supposed to be the ones who can think for themselves.
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2016, 04:15:49 pm »
So a guy who admits he's a liar and lies for money....

This guy? https://medium.com/autonomous/what-donald-trump-s-the-art-of-the-deal-reveals-about-his-surprising-sustained-success-in-the-25a144678b15#.mmghd7u9c

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“I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole.” (pg. 58) - Perhaps my favorite quote in the entire book, Trump’s “truthful hyperbole” line is largely what gives him so many Pinocchios and Pants on Fires from the fact checkers, but what allows him to claim he’s basically telling the truth. But more interesting is the idea that he’s setting out to play to people’s fantasies. He can be their cipher, voters can live and affect change vicariously through him. It’s what most politicians aim to convey, and the most effective ones — like “hope and change” Barack Obama in 2008 — are quite successful using that method.
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2016, 04:18:47 pm »
"I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization."

I know that many people (including some on the Right) have compared Trump to Greg Stillson, the villain in Stephen King's The Dead Zone, but isn't this statement by Schwartz alarmist fearmongering?

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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2016, 04:26:52 pm »
And the reason for believing this guy who claims he writes lies for money is?
Like their hero, Trump minions never read anything much less the article attached.  If you had then you would know that they were not lies but were instead truthful hyperbole.

Besides, given their heroes history then Trump minions are the last people to complain about somebody lying. 

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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2016, 04:40:09 pm »
Four months from now, the entire panaroma of Trump sycophants will be expressing their regrets and wondering how they could have been so stupid.

If they cannot see who and what Trump is today, I doubt they will see it after the election.  If Trump wins, then every liberal action he takes as POTUS will be excused or justified.  And if Trump loses, it will be the fault of #NeverTrump handing the election to Hillary.  But regardless, the self delusion will continue unabated.

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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2016, 04:50:26 pm »
Anyone with an ounce of discernment has already figured this out about Donny Boy.
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2016, 04:59:25 pm »
"I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization."

I know that many people (including some on the Right) have compared Trump to Greg Stillson, the villain in Stephen King's The Dead Zone, but isn't this statement by Schwartz alarmist fearmongering?

Maybe, but what he says about 'Trump's character is the important info in this piece. This man spent many, many weeks with Trump.

 "“Lying is second nature to him,” Schwartz said. “More than anyone else I have ever met, Trump has the ability to convince himself that whatever he is saying at any given moment is true, or sort of true, or at least ought to be true.”


Schwartz says of Trump, “He lied strategically. He had a complete lack of conscience about it.” Since most people are “constrained by the truth,” Trump’s indifference to it “gave him a strange advantage.”

When challenged about the facts, Schwartz says, Trump would often double down, repeat himself, and grow belligerent.

As for Trump’s anger toward him, he said, “I don’t take it personally, because the truth is he didn’t mean it personally. People are dispensable and disposable in Trump’s world.” If Trump is elected President, he warned, “the millions of people who voted for him and believe that he represents their interests will learn what anyone who deals closely with him already knows—that he couldn’t care less about them.”"
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Re: Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All #DonaldTrump
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2016, 05:53:20 pm »
And the reason for believing this guy who claims he writes lies for money is?
And the reason for believing Trump who actually lies and does everything for money is?

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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2016, 06:34:13 pm »


Schwartz  did two things as ghostwriter.  1st he made Trump appear smarter than he really was/is.  and B, he beat his head against the wall so he could get meet with Trump at his own intellectual level.

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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2016, 06:37:05 pm »
And the reason for believing this guy who claims he writes lies for money is?
I thought you liked a little truthful hyperbole?
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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2016, 06:45:18 pm »
Schwartz  did two things as ghostwriter.  1st he made Trump appear smarter than he really was/is.  and B, he beat his head against the wall so he could get meet with Trump at his own intellectual level.

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Re: Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All #DonaldTrump
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2016, 06:48:09 pm »
"I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization."

I know that many people (including some on the Right) have compared Trump to Greg Stillson, the villain in Stephen King's The Dead Zone, but isn't this statement by Schwartz alarmist fearmongering?

Agreed. I hate Trump, but this is over the top.

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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2016, 06:49:31 pm »
The article is definitely worth reading.

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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2016, 06:52:27 pm »
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