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Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« on: June 14, 2016, 02:27:46 am »
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Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says

Lawrence Mower
 10:19 p.m. Monday, June 13, 2016 | Filed in: News

A former classmate of Omar Mateen’s 2006 police academy class said he believed Mateen was gay, saying Mateen once asked him out.

Officials say Mateen shot and killed 49 people and injured 53 others at an Orlando nightclub early Sunday morning

The classmate said that he, Mateen and other classmates would hang out, sometimes going to gay nightclubs, after classes at the Indian River Community College police academy. He said Mateen asked him out romantically.

“We went to a few gay bars with him, and I was not out at the time, so I declined his offer,” the former classmate said. He asked that his name not be used.

He believed Mateen was gay, but not open about it. Mateen was awkward, and for a while the classmate and the rest in the group of friends felt sorry for him.

“He just wanted to fit in and no one liked him,” he said. “He was always socially awkward.”

In Orlando, the Los Angeles Times reported that Mateen attended the Pulse nightclub possibly as many as a dozen times before the rampage. Kevin West said he had messaged Mateen back and forth over a year’s time on the gay dating app Jack’d but never met him until he saw Mateen crossing the street about 1 a.m. Sunday.

“He walked directly past me. I said, ‘Hey,’ and he turned and said, ‘Hey,’” and nodded his head, West said. “I could tell by the eyes.”

At least four regular customers of Pulse, the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender nightclub where the massacre took place, told the Orlando Sentinel on Monday that they believed they had seen Mateen there before.

“Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” said Ty Smith, who also uses the name Aries.

He saw Mateen at the club at least a dozen times, he told the Sentinel. “We didn’t really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times,” Smith said. “He told us he had a wife and child.”

The Canadian Press reported Monday that Mateen had been seen there over three years.

Chris Callen recalled the eventual killer being escorted drunk from the Pulse bar on multiple occasions, including one incident where he pointed a knife at a friend. Said Callen, who performs under the name Kristina McLaughlin, “He’s been going to this bar for at least three years.”

Mateen’s father emphatically told The Post Monday that his son was not gay.

“If he was gay, why would he do something like this?” Seddique Mateen asked.

The former classmate said the group, including Mateen, went to four gay clubs in the Treasure Coast and West Palm Beach in 2006: Kashmir Night Club in West Palm Beach, Byrd Cage in Port St. Lucie, Cold Keg in Melbourne and Rebar in Port St. Lucie.

All but Cold Keg have since closed, and the owner there said he hadn’t seen Mateen.

Neither had one of the former owners of Kashmir, who said none of his former employees have reached out to him, either.

Rebar closed in February and became Tattle Tails. The owner of Tattle Tails, Johnscott Willett, said Monday that he did not recognize Mateen. Willett said he worked for nine years at Rebar and didn’t recognize him from his time there, either.

He said St. Lucie County Sheriff’s deputies visited the club on Sunday and asked if he recognized Mateen.

After hearing that Mateen had shot up the nightclub, he said he felt angry, then betrayed.

He said Mateen graduated from the academy.

Mateen never became an officer in Florida.
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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2016, 02:40:15 am »
This story is getting confusing but the bottom line is the great sorrow for those victims of this man.

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2016, 02:42:32 am »
What if this had nothing to do with Islam, but was a gay thing instead?
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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2016, 02:45:45 am »
What if this had nothing to do with Islam, but was a gay thing instead?

If that is so; then it could be a bad reflection on the gay community.

Still, his beliefs seem to be a part of this; we aren't talking about a man with a Buddhist background doing this.

Or I may be wrong and it could be just psychotic behavior but it does seem his faith is involved even if it is a gross understanding.

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2016, 02:48:12 am »
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“If he was gay, why would he do something like this?” Seddique Mateen asked.
A domestic dispute? Fury over rejection? There are plenty of reasons, and given the strong correlation between homosexuality and mental illness, it actually makes it MORE likely that his sexual feelings (and the associated spikes in testosterone) played a role in his rampage.

Either that, or this was the most elaborate display of taqiyya imaginable.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2016, 02:49:03 am »
If that is so; then it could be a bad reflection on the gay community.

Still, his beliefs seem to be a part of this; we aren't talking about a man with a Buddhist background doing this.

Or I may be wrong and it could be just psychotic behavior but it does seem his faith is involved even if it is a gross understanding.

For a Muslim to be gay had to be terribly conflicting.  He never could admit he was gay publicly, so he covered up his orientation with Islam. 

He went to that club for three years.  If he was such a devout Muslim, how could he do that?
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2016, 02:52:33 am »
For a Muslim to be gay had to be terribly conflicting.  He never could admit he was gay publicly, so he covered up his orientation with Islam. 

He went to that club for three years.  If he was such a devout Muslim, how could he do that?
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2016, 02:53:44 am »
What if this had nothing to do with Islam, but was a gay thing instead?

That would change the narrative...... Except for the gun grabbing agenda from the left.   

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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2016, 02:56:01 am »
You are too stuck on gay here.  It is a mass murder by an Islamic terrorist just like so many others.

Well, if he was gay, why would you discount that? 
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2016, 03:04:23 am »
Reminds me a bit of that pilot in the summer of 2015 where he let that plane crash into the mountains in Europe.  How horrible but that pilot seemed conflicted somehow.

What gets me is this Omar, didn't have just one wife; but apparently a 2nd one too from what I'm reading (or a very close girlfriend whom he had a child with). And apparently, he abused one wife, so yes, she called him bipolar even.

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2016, 03:07:36 am »
Does anyone else believe this?

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2016, 07:26:29 am »
Well, in a sane world this would change the narrative

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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2016, 09:24:40 am »
Does anyone else believe this?

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No, sounds like a hit piece some low places tried to push on Rubio being gay. Also reminds me of some of the baseless articles put out on Cruz (secret lovers)... The conspiracy part of me entertains the thought that the media would like nothing better than to suggest those that attack it's protected classes are secretly gay, like people that post memes that suggest gun owners are just trying to compensate for some sexual organ small sizes. 

If he did go to these clubs it was far more likely to scope them out for a future attack and learn the lay of the land.

JMO of course... throwing it out there just because...
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2016, 10:11:36 am »
Wow! What a freaky plot twist…

This terrorist now appears to have been a self-loathing homosexual Muslim! The dam is now bursting with multiple accounts from several sources indicating that the terrorist was gay and had frequented the gay Pulse bar and other gay bars for several years.

ABC News ATM reporting (reluctantly) that a regular patron of Pulse had seen the terrorist on multiple occasions over the past two years and that he had seen him trying to hook up with other gay men by “bumping” into them on the dance floor. Usually, the news readers on ATM will give lengthy comments about news items, but the most that the apparently gay black man news reader would say is that this development was “interesting”! LOL!

Also, a former female (bull dyke lesbian?) bouncer at the Pulse has come forward to claim that she had thrown the terrorist out of the club more than once over the recent past.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2016, 10:28:43 am »
Does anyone else believe this?

@runnerrunner

Yes! There now have been several news sources overnight that report that this terrorist has been engaged in homosexual involvement for several years now...
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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2016, 11:09:07 am »
So to re-cap we have a possibly gay/bisexual Muslim terrorist, that may or may not have been bi-polar. He was trying to obtain a job in law enforcement. He physically abused at least one ex-wife and had at least one child. He was able to legally purchase firearms, but denied body armor. Did I leave anything out?
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2016, 11:45:29 am »
This homosexual terrorist link brings up another burning question; if the FBI did a thorough investigation back in 2013 and 2014 when this man was brought to their attention for terrorist threats, wouldn’t they have discovered his years long homosexual involvement? And if so, why has the FBI not revealed this by now after this terrorist’s attack on a gay bar? PC gone amok, or just pure investigative incompetence?

BTW, it will be very interesting to see how the liberal homosexual activists try to explain away the fact that “one of their own” slaughtered his fellow homosexuals…
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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2016, 11:56:15 am »
What if this had nothing to do with Islam, but was a gay thing instead?

It's pretty simple. Jihad washes all his sins away.

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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2016, 12:03:19 pm »
What if this had nothing to do with Islam, but was a gay thing instead?

Geez...there's a log of THREE 911 calls made during the massacre, where he swears allegiance to ISIS, etc..

Oh wait....that's right.   ISIS has nothing to do with Islam.   /s
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2016, 12:05:46 pm »
For a Muslim to be gay had to be terribly conflicting.  He never could admit he was gay publicly, so he covered up his orientation with Islam. 

He went to that club for three years.  If he was such a devout Muslim, how could he do that?

LOL!   Kind of shoots to hell, the theory that homosexuality if purely a lifestyle choice and not a human compulsion formed during gestation.
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2016, 12:13:08 pm »
What was the original narrative? He saw 2men kissing and that set him off and went out and bought his guns and drove to a gay bar to shoot the place up. All points to a hate crime per the media and liberals. Now we find out the truth, that he frequented gay bars and even had q gay dating ap on his phone. Destroys the original narrative.
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2016, 12:15:14 pm »
It's pretty simple. Jihad washes all his sins away.

Exactly... At least that is what the terrorist thought anyway...
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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2016, 12:16:37 pm »

He went to that club for three years.  If he was such a devout Muslim, how could he do that?

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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2016, 12:25:25 pm »
A self-loathing homosexual,  no doubt made so by his religion.   The pattern isn't unusual,  although of course the outcome was.   

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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2016, 12:33:55 pm »
A self-loathing homosexual,  no doubt made so by his religion.   The pattern isn't unusual,  although of course the outcome was.

That is a term and concept that interests me. It's a term that I "think" I know the meaning of, but there may be a discussion of it at some point to drill down deeper.

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