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Likewise, if the US gets hit by a big terror attack if Clinton is elected president, who will share that responsibility? People like Cruz.

It will be the responsibility, first, of the terrorists.  Then of the government that did not do what it needed to do to telegraph that fearful retribution would result.

Then it will be the responsibility of those who GAMED the opposition party, to promote a completely-unpalatable, incompetent, unfit, dishonest graft-and-payola specialist in there...and who thought they could ORDER the majority who did NOT vote for the bozo, to support him.

In other words, the Ron Paul cultists, with transferred allegiance to a new Superman - Lord Trumpy, The Only One Who Can Save Us!™  It will be OUR fault, for not going along with the cult's self-hypnosis.

Most importantly, it will be the one who OPPOSED this Potemkin Businessman; who spoke of serious ways to address the nation's problems...who refused to kiss the ring of Lord God the Donald, after being slandered and besmirched.  HE'S THE ONE!  The New Emmanuel Goldstein!

Pot-impaired cultists' logic.

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Likewise, if the US gets hit by a big terror attack if Clinton is elected president, who will share that responsibility? People like Cruz.

And this, boys and girls, is why you should never smoke crack.
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And this, boys and girls, is why you should never smoke crack.
Especially on top of all that stuff Mr. Leary was pushing...
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And this, boys and girls, is why you should never smoke crack.

Ah, ha ... that explains some of the posts.   :whistle:
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Quote from: TomSea on August 09, 2016, 10:40:41 AM
Likewise, if the US gets hit by a big terror attack if Clinton is elected president, who will share that responsibility? People like Cruz.

And this, boys and girls, is why you should never smoke crack.

Especially on top of all that stuff Mr. Leary was pushing...

ROFLMFAO!!!
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Especially on top of all that stuff Mr. Leary was pushing...


ROFLMFAO!!!

Yes, the Trump mentality is funny. However, the joke is on them once they realize that it is THEY who ARE responsible going forward for what happens.  They will be responsible if Hillary wins and for the destruction she does to this country and they will be responsible if Trump wins and for the destruction he does to this country.
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Yes, the Trump mentality is funny. However, the joke is on them once they realize that it is THEY who ARE responsible going forward for what happens.  They will be responsible if Hillary wins and for the destruction she does to this country and they will be responsible if Trump wins and for the destruction he does to this country.
Sad, but true.
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Likewise, if the US gets hit by a big terror attack if Clinton is elected president, who will share that responsibility? People like Cruz.

Let's see if I have this straight.  People are NOT going to use their OWN estimation of the candidate and vote on that, their own conclusions - but mindlessly, depending on the endorsements of OTHERS.

And OTHERS, like CRUZ, are supposed to GIVE those endorsements mindlessly - and ignore not only the lies and slanders, but that the lies and slanders were aimed point-blank at HIM.  HE was slandered.  HE was accused of lawbreaking, and his father called accessory to homicide.

And for that Cruz is to issue an endorsement he certainly doesn't mean, to a candidate who is his political, philosophical and MORAL opposite...and the masses are going to REACT that that perfunctory endorsement that is not even sincere?

THAT will cause Trump to lose?

Have you gotten today's Two Minute Hate over with, yet, TS?

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Yes, the Trump mentality is funny. However, the joke is on them once they realize that it is THEY who ARE responsible going forward for what happens.  They will be responsible if Hillary wins and for the destruction she does to this country and they will be responsible if Trump wins and for the destruction he does to this country.

So you put up a flawed candidate but it's our fault he loses.

Beahahahahahhaaaaaaaa
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So you put up a flawed candidate but it's our fault he loses.

Beahahahahahhaaaaaaaa

Not flawed.

Unacceptable.

He's not giving us a reason to vote for him.  Not a one.  Not his personality; not his political philosophy - of which he has none.  Not guarantees or promises of action - which cannot be believed; he's been caught throwing out dozens of lies.

Not even promises of Free Excrement - he's saving that for the OTHER side, who he's hoping to seduce.  My kind, he's flipping the middle finger at.

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Not flawed.

Unacceptable.

He's not giving us a reason to vote for him.  Not a one.  Not his personality; not his political philosophy - of which he has none.  Not guarantees or promises of action - which cannot be believed; he's been caught throwing out dozens of lies.

Not even promises of Free Excrement - he's saving that for the OTHER side, who he's hoping to seduce.  My kind, he's flipping the middle finger at.

And plenty of reasons NOT to vote for him!
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Let's see if I have this straight.  People are NOT going to use their OWN estimation of the candidate and vote on that, their own conclusions - but mindlessly, depending on the endorsements of OTHERS.

And OTHERS, like CRUZ, are supposed to GIVE those endorsements mindlessly - and ignore not only the lies and slanders, but that the lies and slanders were aimed point-blank at HIM.  HE was slandered.  HE was accused of lawbreaking, and his father called accessory to homicide.

And for that Cruz is to issue an endorsement he certainly doesn't mean, to a candidate who is his political, philosophical and MORAL opposite...and the masses are going to REACT that that perfunctory endorsement that is not even sincere?

THAT will cause Trump to lose?

Have you gotten today's Two Minute Hate over with, yet, TS?

And lets not forget that while it was a mortal sin for Cruz not to endorse Trump...in the minds of the Trumpkins that is...they were perfectly find and even justified Trump NOT initially endorsing Ryan and McCain.

Talk about pretzel logic.  :pondering:
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And lets not forget that while it was a mortal sin for Cruz not to endorse Trump...in the minds of the Trumpkins that is...they were perfectly find and even justified Trump NOT initially endorsing Ryan and McCain.

Talk about pretzel logic.  :pondering:

Yes, indeed. Liberal metal midget logic!

I prefer to take Cruz's advice; “To those listening, please, don’t stay home in November,” “Stand and speak and vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution.

I certainly DO NOT trust either Hillary or Donald period.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2016, 12:56:03 am by libertybele »
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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And lets not forget that while it was a mortal sin for Cruz not to endorse Trump...in the minds of the Trumpkins that is...they were perfectly find and even justified Trump NOT initially endorsing Ryan and McCain.

Talk about pretzel logic.  :pondering:

They hate Cruz; and yet Trump isn't polling well because the hated, lying, scheming man won't endorse Trump.

Does anyone look to see who a REPUGNANT person endorses, to follow along?  Would I vote for someone because, say, Soros endorsed him?  Or even Jimmuh Cahteh.  If I read of Jimmuh's endorsement...I'd sure check out the OTHER candidate; because he's probably on the correct side.

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The salient point here is the left will always point fingers and fix blame on others for their own faults and problems. A good Christian conservative will accept their mistakes and move forward to correct their errors.
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The salient point here is the left will always point fingers and fix blame on others for their own faults and problems. A good Christian conservative will accept their mistakes and move forward to correct their errors.

..."I want to ask each of you to imagine, imagine millions of courageous conservatives, all across America, rising up together to say in unison “we demand our liberty. Today, roughly half of born again Christians aren’t voting. They’re staying home. Imagine instead millions of people of faith all across America coming out to the polls and voting our values."!
   
    -- Ted Cruz
        Liberty University address
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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..."I want to ask each of you to imagine, imagine millions of courageous conservatives, all across America, rising up together to say in unison “we demand our liberty. Today, roughly half of born again Christians aren’t voting. They’re staying home. Imagine instead millions of people of faith all across America coming out to the polls and voting our values."!
   
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If that happened there would be no Hillary presidency! And no Trump one either!
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If that happened there would be no Hillary presidency! And no Trump one either!

That would be a good thing.  But the Dems are countering by challenging voter ID laws in many states and winning, so that anti-christians and illegals can vote for them. They are also illegally importing people and changing the rules to their advantage.  For a good conservative to win all this unlawlessness by the Dems AND GOPers must be stopped. Since the Clinton clan including Trump won't do anything about constitutional crises, we must elect Castle.  The ONLY choice to regain a constitutional foundation to this country.
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"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.� ? Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy

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That would be a good thing.  But the Dems are countering by challenging voter ID laws in many states and winning, so that anti-christians and illegals can vote for them. They are also illegally importing people and changing the rules to their advantage.  For a good conservative to win all this unlawlessness by the Dems AND GOPers must be stopped. Since the Clinton clan including Trump won't do anything about constitutional crises, we must elect Castle.  The ONLY choice to regain a constitutional foundation to this country.

I hear what you are saying about Castle; clearly the electorate unfortunately has rejected a "constitutional" president already. I think the GOP is in bigger trouble than they think. Remember that some of the congressional district maps have been redrawn that now favor the DEMS.  I know that will have a huge impact here in FL and I don't think Rubio will retain his seat, nor do I think Trump will win here.
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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I hear what you are saying about Castle; clearly the electorate unfortunately has rejected a "constitutional" president already. I think the GOP is in bigger trouble than they think. Remember that some of the congressional district maps have been redrawn that now favor the DEMS.  I know that will have a huge impact here in FL and I don't think Rubio will retain his seat, nor do I think Trump will win here.

The GOP?  The Globalist Oligarch Party?  (Only slightly sarcastic)

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The GOP?  The Globalist Oligarch Party?  (Only slightly sarcastic)

We do still have some conservatives within both the Senate and the House -- they are the ones holding this country (as we know it) together right now.  The DEMS have stacked the deck this election cycle more than ever before; I don't see much of a chance of them being defeated. IMHO, from that point forward; the chances of people like Cruz or Lee making a difference or even retaining their seats is going to be extremely difficult. Perhaps a new party will emerge with their leadership.  I'm getting ahead of things here, and like everyone else wondering what's going to take place in November.
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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No he wasn't treated fairly.  I no longer visit FoxNew.com or Drudge.

Wait are you saying Drudge was unfair to Trump?  Are you living in an alternate universe?  or maybe I'm not picking up on what you're trying to say.

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That would be a good thing.  But the Dems are countering by challenging voter ID laws in many states and winning, so that anti-christians and illegals can vote for them. They are also illegally importing people and changing the rules to their advantage.  For a good conservative to win all this unlawlessness by the Dems AND GOPers must be stopped. Since the Clinton clan including Trump won't do anything about constitutional crises, we must elect Castle.  The ONLY choice to regain a constitutional foundation to this country.

While I will be casting a vote for Castle (or writing him in) - it would be a BIG MISTAKE to assume voting him or ANYONE into office is going to return us to a Constitutional Foundation.

Only a moral and religious people are capable of being governed by the Constitution and the only people capable of freedom.

Sadly, we are no longer those people.  We are a tiny minority in this country at present.

Our problems are spiritual in nature at their root - not political.    Our rulers are simply a reflection of We The Depraved People.

We refused to be governed by God, so now we are being ruled by the tyranny of men.
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While I will be casting a vote for Castle (or writing him in) - it would be a BIG MISTAKE to assume voting him or ANYONE into office is going to return us to a Constitutional Foundation.

Only a moral and religious people are capable of being governed by the Constitution and the only people capable of freedom.

Sadly, we are no longer those people.  We are a tiny minority in this country at present.

Our problems are spiritual in nature at their root - not political.    Our rulers are simply a reflection of We The Depraved People.

We refused to be governed by God, so now we are being ruled by the tyranny of men.

Totally Agree!  One election cycle or one person will turn around this country.  But we have to start.  Anyone who votes for Hillary or the Donald only because they believe Castle has no chance, isn't giving him a chance and doesn't want this country turned around.
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Totally Agree!  One election cycle or one person will turn around this country.  But we have to start.  Anyone who votes for Hillary or the Donald only because they believe Castle has no chance, isn't giving him a chance and doesn't want this country turned around.
Exactly! "Unelectable" is the self-fulfilling prophesy the two parties have used to keep us in thrall while they do as they please and even ignore their own platform planks willy-nilly, although the latter tends to be a Republican Party trait.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis