Donald Trump predicts major lawsuit coming against Ted Cruz over his Canadian birth

[HAPPY2BME]

http://us.blastingnews.com/news/2016/04/donald-trump-predicts-major-lawsuit-coming-against-ted-cruz-over-his-canadian-birth-00891361.html


Published on: 23 April 2016
Robert Sobel

Ted Cruz's birther problem doesn't seem to be going away, and Donald Trump predicts legal action in his future.

Of all the problems that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has had to endure during the course of the Republican primary, nothing has been more of a burden than the reoccurring issue over his Canadian birth. While various lawsuits have been filed questioning Cruz's eligibility for president, the senator from the Lone Star State has been able to avoid major problems.
Canadian Cruz

Rafael Edward Cruz, better known as "Ted," was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada on December 22, 1970. Cruz's father, Rafael, was born in Cuba, while his mother, Eleanor, was born in Delaware. Though the United States Constitution requires that anyone running for president must be a "Natural Born Citizen," the document never details the definition of the term. While the issue was assumed to be dead, Donald Trump brought Cruz's birther issue up during his most recent campaign stop, as reported by The Hill on April 23.

    Trump renews criticism of Cruz's Canadian birth https://t.co/eR92p9lV5r pic.twitter.com/EzHaBLdOmb
    — The Hill (@thehill) April 23, 2016

"You're registered as a Canadian citizen, he never knew he was a Canadian," Trump said about Cruz, while speaking to a crowd of supporters in Waterbury, Connecticut. Continuing, the billionaire real estate mogul went on to predict that if Cruz is nominated, "The first thing the Democrats are going to do is sue him on the basis that he’s not a naturalized citizen, he wasn’t born in the country."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrnCsefPUPw

Cruz and the SCOTUS

Various lawsuits have been filed against Cruz challenging his eligibility to run for president, but one has stood out above the rest. As reported by Law Newz earlier this month, a lawsuit filed by Walter Wagner, a resident from Utah, has had his lawsuit appealed all the way to the Supreme Court. While the lawsuit has not been heard, and could very well be denied, it's "officially on the court docket for consideration to be heard." Cruz's legal team has until May 5 to respond to the legal action.

Primary status

Whether or not the birther lawsuit goes further, Cruz still has a fight on his hands heading into the Republican National Convention this July. With only 559 delegates to his name, Cruz is mathematically eliminated from clinching the party's nomination, with Trump and his 845 delegates the odds on favorite to walk out of Cleveland, Ohio the winner.

[ABX]

There have been at least 15-20 challenges and lawsuits and so far, Cruz has won every one of them. That has created precedent for future suits to be tossed.

[Right_in_Virginia]

There have been at least 15-20 challenges and lawsuits and so far, Cruz has won every one of them. That has created precedent for future suits to be tossed.

Not entirely true. A few rulings have been that Cruz is an American citizen, w/o reference to "natural born" as required in the US Constitution for the office he craves.

So, it's not over.  And my opinion that it shouldn't be over has precious little to do with candidate Cruz.  I want a Supreme Court decision on the eligibility of anyone born outside the United States to one parent with US Citizenship to be POTUS and CIC. 

Let's take Cruz out of the equation---and as such a true constitutional conservative, I'm sure Teddy would agree that this issue is bigger than even he.  There was time, if memory serves, that many on this forum would agree also.

[etcb]

Aside from his generally boorish behavior, the thing that bothers me most about Mr. Trump is his tendency to use threats and ridicule to get his way.  From the day he announced, he made it clear that he felt entitled to the nomination and if it wasn't awarded to him, he would make sure it was worthless for anyone else.  He is like the person who decides he likes your house and threatens that if you don't give him title to it, he will burn it down.  While he makes such a issue of being superior to everyone else,  his whole approach is premised on the idea that his opponents are better people than him and will  give in to his demands rather than allow him to destroy everything.  Dealing with him is quite similar to dealing with a hostage taker who has a mob outside cheering him on.  You have to decide, whether you give him what he wants or take the chance that he will carry out his threats.  At some point even good people can be pushed too far.

[truth_seeker]

There have been at least 15-20 challenges and lawsuits and so far, Cruz has won every one of them. That has created precedent for future suits to be tossed.

Not true. There has NEVER been a President born outside the US, so there in NO precedent at all.

The issue of a possible President born outside the US has never been ruled upon by the Supreme Court, so again NO precedent.

[jmyrlefuller]

Not true. There has NEVER been a President born outside the US, so there in NO precedent at all.

The issue of a possible President born outside the US has never been ruled upon by the Supreme Court, so again NO precedent.

Ah, moving the goalposts again, I see.

First it was a ruling. Cruz won rulings from boards of elections.

Then they wanted a court ruling. Cruz won rulings from state courts.

Then they wanted a federal court ruling. Cruz won rulings from federal courts.

Now you insist on a Supreme Court ruling, hoping that somehow they will overturn what every other court and sanctioning body has said on this issue.

You clearly have no concept of the legal notion of precedent.

[sinkspur]

More dust and bullshit from Trump.

[sinkspur]

Not true. There has NEVER been a President born outside the US, so there in NO precedent at all.

The issue of a possible President born outside the US has never been ruled upon by the Supreme Court, so again NO precedent.

The Supreme Court will never take up the case.

[A-Lert]

Hillary and the DNC would never make an issue of Cruz's birthplace, would they?

[Wingnut]

More dust and bullshit from Trump.

He is the "Pigpen" of candidates.

[jmyrlefuller]

Hillary and the DNC would never make an issue of Cruz's birthplace, would they?

Of course they would. First off, the point's been pretty well established that they wouldn't succeed, and second, what does it tell you when Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are on the same side in this issue (and many others for that matter)?

[Springfield Reformer]

Hillary and the DNC would never make an issue of Cruz's birthplace, would they?

I'd guess they'll make an issue of it the same way Trump has, not by doing the manly thing and bringing suit, but rather by poisoning people's minds with doubt.

BTW, I agree with @sinkspur that SCOTUS will probably never take this up, as they would tend to view it under the political question doctrine. If the political system can't figure it out, too bad so sad.

For the record, I support the claim that Cruz is a natural born citizen, under the plenary power of Congress to set forth not only the means and methods of naturalization, but also who does and who does not need naturalization.  See Justice Thomas in Zivotofsky, stating "children born abroad to U. S. parents, subject to some exceptions, are natural-born citizens who do not need to go through the naturalization process. 8 U. S. C. §§ 1401(c), (d), (g)."

Peace,

SR

[A-Lert]

Of course they would. First off, the point's been pretty well established that they wouldn't succeed, and second, what does it tell you when Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are on the same side in this issue (and many others for that matter)?

Succeeding isn't the point. Just planting the seed in the electorates head, like you do with your baseless allegations against Trump, is all that is needed.

[For-Q-Clinton]

This must mean Cruz is gaining on him in internal polls.  Every time Cruz gains Trump brings out his birther argument.

[Wingnut]

This must mean Cruz is gaining on him in internal polls.  Every time Cruz gains Trump brings out his birther argument.

Poll updates are due out tomorrow?    You very well may be correct.

[HAPPY2BME]

I want a Supreme Court decision on the eligibility of anyone born outside the United States to one parent with US Citizenship to be POTUS and CIC.

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That would mess EVERYTHING up.  We'll never get it.

[HAPPY2BME]

.. what does it tell you when Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are on the same side in this issue (and many others for that matter)?

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So you don't think Hillary would sue Trump over citizenship eligibility if he was nominated?

[cato potatoe]

Does everybody remember when Obama made a fool out of Trump in 2011?  When is Trump going to reveal his findings?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/21/trump-says-hell-reveal-interesting-things-on-obama/

It's time we admit the entire birther controversy was racial demagoguery, and Trump led the birther movement to delegitimize the first black president.  Now he's turning it on the Cuban-American.  We're not going to win hearts and minds with these sleazeball tactics. 

[RetBobbyMI]

Easy legal answer to this question. Ted Cruz did not have to go through the naturalization process to become a citizen, therefore he is a natural born citizen. Any other argument is a red herring.

[jmyrlefuller]

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That would mess EVERYTHING up.  We'll never get it.

Hence why you keep harping on the issue. In fact, you don't want SCOTUS to address it because it would tear your silly argument to shreds.

[HAPPY2BME]

Hence why you keep harping on the issue. In fact, you don't want SCOTUS to address it because it would tear your silly argument to shreds.

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They won't touch it.  Not because of the 'birther' issue, but because of the 'citizenship' issue.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Poll updates are due out tomorrow?    You very well may be correct.

You're very funny.  Great comic relief.   

[sinkspur]

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They won't touch it.  Not because of the 'birther' issue, but because of the 'citizenship' issue.

The Supremes won't touch it because 1) No lower court has found against Cruz 2) Because of that, no case has made it to an Appeal. 

[Wingnut]

You're very funny.  Great comic relief.   

Please...Just call me an as*hole.  I'll respect you in the morning.   

[HonestJohn]

There have been at least 15-20 challenges and lawsuits and so far, Cruz has won every one of them. That has created precedent for future suits to be tossed.

Birther nuts don't care.  They didn't with Obama.