The GOP Civil War and its Opportunities (25% of the GOP will bolt if Trump is the nominee)

[sinkspur]

http://www.democracycorps.com/attachments/article/1025/Dcor_RPP_Memo_2.29.2016_FOR%20RELEASE.pdf

The GOP Civil War and its Opportunities

February 29, 2016

...In a general election against Hillary Clinton, 20 percent of the Republican base is dislodged from
Donald Trump, saying they will vote for another candidate, don’t know or will not vote; 5 percent
of Republicans say they will vote for Clinton. That is twice the uncertainty as for ballots
with Cruz and Rubio, though Hillary’s vote is a touch higher in those matchups. The possible
fragmentation of the base is most evident with the Moderates.

Those dislodged voters respond to the attacks on Trump and positive Democratic messages, and
the vote shifts further from the Republican nominee at the end of the survey.
The strongest attacks on Trump charge that he is an ego-maniac who cares more about himself
than the country, that he is very disrespectful towards women, and that he is a threat to national
security and should not have control of our nuclear weapons...........

[sinkspur]

DemocracyCorps is a Democrat site run by Stan Greenberg but their polls in 2008 and 2012 were near the top in terms of accuracy.

Losing 25% of Republicans in the general means Trump stands no chance.

[Scottftlc]

DemocracyCorps is a Democrat site run by Stan Greenberg but their polls in 2008 and 2012 were near the top in terms of accuracy.

Losing 25% of Republicans in the general means Trump stands no chance.

Cool, the 20% want to try and hold 80% hostage.  If you can't get the votes because your establishment has, once again, nothing but complete crap for candidates, find a way to stick it to the people.  Tail wagging the dog.  Brilliant.

[PzLdr]

Considering the GOP's stellar performance since 2008, who cares. Good riddance.

[Bigun]

Cool, the 20% want to try and hold 80% hostage.  If you can't get the votes because your establishment has, once again, nothing but complete crap for candidates, find a way to stick it to the people.  Tail wagging the dog.  Brilliant.

Anybody know what happens if no one gets 270 electoral votes?

Just asking!

[sinkspur]

Anybody know what happens if no one gets 270 electoral votes?

Just asking!

Goes to the House. If a prominent 3rd party conservative candidate is part of the mix, think the GOP House will give it to Trump?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Anybody know what happens if no one gets 270 electoral votes?

Just asking!

This goes to the House for a vote.

[sinkspur]

Cool, the 20% want to try and hold 80% hostage.  If you can't get the votes because your establishment has, once again, nothing but complete crap for candidates, find a way to stick it to the people.  Tail wagging the dog.  Brilliant.

Go get those Democrats, Scott. Hell, Trump's almost there already with his pimping of Planned Parenthood, 45% tax on imports, and single payer healthcare.

Go get 'em!!

[Bigun]

Goes to the House. If a prominent 3rd party conservative candidate is part of the mix, think the GOP House will give it to Trump?

No way in hell!

[Right_in_Virginia]

DemocracyCorps is a Democrat site run by Stan Greenberg but their polls in 2008 and 2012 were near the top in terms of accuracy.

Losing 25% of Republicans in the general means Trump stands no chance.

Sink, this is one of the longest goodbyes in modern history.  If you feel you must, please, go already!       

[sinkspur]

Sink, this is one of the longest goodbyes in modern history.  If you feel you must, please, go already!     

Nope. They'll have to kick me out.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Nope. They'll have to kick me out.

So the Republican Party will need to single you out and kick you to the curb?  Sounds a little like you really want to stay.   

[Relic]

Cool, the 20% want to try and hold 80% hostage.  If you can't get the votes because your establishment has, once again, nothing but complete crap for candidates, find a way to stick it to the people.  Tail wagging the dog.  Brilliant.

Remember when we were relentlessly told to suck it up and vote for the nominee? That staying home was as good as voting Democrat? That we should hold our nose and vote for the nominee for the good of the country?

I guess all that was just manipulation to get their way. Now, their desperation is palpable.

[NavyCanDo]

Sink, this is one of the longest goodbyes in modern history.  If you feel you must, please, go already!     

Sinks post, since being aloud to come back has been a lot less inflammatory and far more mature.    Not so however for Trump supporters responding to him with vitriol. Cool it with your personal attacks.

[Bigun]

Sinks post, since being aloud to come back has been a lot less inflammatory and far more mature.    Not so however for Trump supporters responding to him with vitriol. Cool it with your personal attacks.

 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Sinks post, since being aloud to come back has been a lot less inflammatory and far more mature.    Not so however for Trump supporters responding to him with vitriol. Cool it with your personal attacks.

Isn't this thread about the Republican Party and how many will bolt it if Trump's the candidate?   I wasn't commenting one way or the other on Sink's personal growth, but merely suggesting if he's so unhappy with the Republican Party he should leave now and avoid the crush later on. 

Please, it's helpful not to jump to conclusions.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

I wish you had read my reply (above) before jumping on the wrong bandwagon.   But, I realize this is a tough day for some. 

[alicewonders]

Anybody know what happens if no one gets 270 electoral votes?

Just asking!

Just ask Bernie - he knows.

Hillary wins!

(It's an automatic clause in really fine print.)

[Carling]

If the GOPe steals the nomination, 70% of GOP primary voters appear to be willing to give you guys the boot.

Why not just merge with the Democrats?  Hell, Jazzhead is here saying he'd vote for HRC and how Romney/ObamaCare is some sort of "conservative" policy.

How true conservatives can read that and not shun him is solely because he has TDS as well, and the Dump Trumpers are willing to side with people who vote for and who defend liberal policies.

This has been such an enlightening primary season.  Best one of my life and I'm thoroughly enjoying taking it all in.

[NavyCanDo]

Isn't this thread about the Republican Party and how many will bolt it if Trump's the candidate?   I wasn't commenting one way or the other on Sink's personal growth, but merely suggesting if he's so unhappy with the Republican Party he should leave now and avoid the crush later on. 

Please, it's helpful not to jump to conclusions.   

Well maybe I had on the same faulty earpiece that Trump wore Sunday, because what came across to me entirely different than what it sounded.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Well maybe I had on the same faulty earpiece that Trump wore Sunday, because what came across to me entirely different than what it sounded.

Actually, this was more of a reading comprehension mishap than hearing.  But, it's a damn good try.   ^-^

[alicewonders]

Well maybe I had on the same faulty earpiece that Trump wore Sunday, because what came across to me entirely different than what it sounded.

Maybe you were looking at it in a defensive way.  I got it from the git-go - she was talking about leaving the party.  What is it that Sink is always talking about leaving?  Not here.  The GOP - if Trump ends up the nominee. 

And she's right, he's been talking it awhile - a pretty long goodbye.   

[sinkspur]

Maybe you were looking at it in a defensive way.  I got it from the git-go - she was talking about leaving the party.  What is it that Sink is always talking about leaving?  Not here.  The GOP - if Trump ends up the nominee. 

And she's right, he's been talking it awhile - a pretty long goodbye.   

I mentioned once I might imitate Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska and leave the party. 

One thing I do know is that I will never vote for Trump.

[HonestJohn]

Cool, the 20% want to try and hold 80% hostage.  If you can't get the votes because your establishment has, once again, nothing but complete crap for candidates, find a way to stick it to the people.  Tail wagging the dog.  Brilliant.

You sound like the GOPe during the government shutdown...

[HonestJohn]

Sink, this is one of the longest goodbyes in modern history.  If you feel you must, please, go already!     

Geez, the TOS zot patrol is now here?