Unhinged Donald Trump In New Hampshire: ‘Tell Them To Go **** Themselves’

[Lando Lincoln]

Well Lando, don't ever listen to Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon or Clinton's whitehouse tapes.... you would be shocked....

Certainly, I get that also. I had multiple meetings with imprisoned former Governor Rod Blagojevich - a more vulgar/profane man would be difficult to find. Even he, however, had the sense to park it in the public arena.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I believe he caught himself in time, Sink.

Suddenly last night, Andersen Cooper couldn't get squat out of the Donald Trump regarding Cruz 'stealing' Iowa.  Trump said "I've moved on.  I'm concentrating on New Hampshire".   

This was a terrific town hall/interview.  Here's the link for those who missed it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmJFVkf1T6w

[Wingnut]

Shift Change?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xsLXuUEqbI

[EdinVA]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xsLXuUEqbI

  That's great... was not sure anyone would pick up on that

[Luis Gonzalez]

ML, you have to fight the fight you are in, not the one you want to be in.
That is why the GOP has lost the last 2 presidential elections.

So, when "the fight that we were in" was a right-wing moderate war hero or a right-wing moderate Mormon versus the most radically progressive Socialist, Muslim sympathizer ever to run for the title of POTUS, "conservatives" and many evangelicals exercised the option of standing on their principles and gave us eight years of Obama, but now you expect musiclady to set her principles aside "for the good of the nation" and vote for some repugnant, vulgar, immature brat who supports more leftist ideas than the majority of the people that have been booted from this site for being "libtards"!

That's rich.

In order for a Republican to win the general election, that candidate would have to win every Electoral vote/State won by Romney in 2012, PLUS flip about nine States that went to Obama. Meaning that voters  that were given a choice between the known radical progressive (maybe) Muslim and a moderate Republican in 2012 and chose, either by direct action (vote) or indirect action (not voting) to elect the former and not the later, would now do a massive turnaround and abandon their progressive tendencies in order to vote for a clown with no moral or political compass.

That's not going to happen.




 

[Wingnut]

That's great... was not sure anyone would pick up on that

It was the 1st thing that popped into my head.  :) I'm weird that way. 

[aligncare]

That this manner of speaking/behavior in a US Presidential candidate resonates with so many says a lot about us. Angry?  I get it. I am too. But that has no appeal to me whatsoever.

For me it's righteous indignation, not anger.

[EdinVA]

Well stated. Republicans/conservatives waste most of their time, internally debating how many "true conservatives" can fit on the head of a pin.

Democrats/liberals/progressives/socialists tell people what they will get, for their support.

Republicans need to talk in terms people understand.

"You will have MORE MONEY from capitalism."
"You will have MORE PERSONELL FREEDOM, from limited government." 
"There will be LESS WAR from strength."

Exactly.
Don't change the goal, just re-frame the conversation in terms someone with slightly differing views can find points of agreement.
That may require a direct, no frills approach at times...

[Lando Lincoln]

Trifecta!!  Sink. MAC. Now, mi hermano... Luis!

[Meshuge Mikey]

reships the DONULL is afraid that this news  will finally be picked up an END his campaign???



t’s something ironic,” said Ivan Arellano, 29, who is from Mexico and obtained legal status through marriage. He now works as a mason laying the stonework for the lobby floor and walls of what will become the Trump International Hotel.

“The majority of us are Hispanics, many who came illegally,” Arellano said in Spanish. “And we’re all here working very hard to build a better life for our families.”..SOMEBODY GET A HOLD OF THIS GUY offer HIM Immunity .....and BUST TRUMPS ARSE!!!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/they-say-they-arrived-in-the-us-illegally-now-theyre-working-on-trumps-dc-hotel/2015/07/06/9a785116-20ec-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html




LETS ROLL!

[sinkspur]

Am I the only one who has noticed that Trump has white rings around his eyes?

He is so vain  70 years old and still lays in a tanning bed. 

[EdinVA]

So, when "the fight that we were in" was a right-wing moderate war hero or a right-wing moderate Mormon versus the most radically progressive Socialist, Muslim sympathizer ever to run for the title of POTUS, "conservatives" and many evangelicals exercised the option of standing on their principles and gave us eight years of Obama, but now you expect musiclady to set her principles aside "for the good of the nation" and vote for some repugnant, vulgar, immature brat who supports more leftist ideas than the majority of the people that have been booted from this site for being "libtards"!

That's rich.

In order for a Republican to win the general election, that candidate would have to win every Electoral vote/State won by Romney in 2012, PLUS flip about nine States that went to Obama. Meaning that voters  that were given a choice between the known radical progressive (maybe) Muslim and a moderate Republican in 2012 and chose, either by direct action (vote) or indirect action (not voting) to elect the former and not the later, would now do a massive turnaround and abandon their progressive tendencies in order to vote for a clown with no moral or political compass.

That's not going to happen.

Welcome back Louis......

Well, first off, I don't expect anyone to do anything, especially ML... I simply share my view and she, as well as anyone else, can take it or leave it.

As far as McCain and Romney they did not fight back.  They sat in their seats during the debates and let Obama beat them over the head with idiotic accusations, then Obama laughed at them, that is why they lost.  Why go to the polls and vote if the guy your voting for won't stand up and fight back and even if he wins what chance is there that he/she will actually do something besides attend cocktail parties?

What the GOP has got to understand is that even if a GOP candidate, any candidate, gets every GOP vote in the world, it is still not enough to win the election.
If the GOP is going to win, they will have to convince the independents and "blue dog" democrats to vote for them as well as draw out the traditional non-voters.
In doing so the GOP candidate is likely going to have to appear "less that stellar" at times... Do I like that, of course not, but that is just the fight we have.

[Jazzhead]

The bottom line with Donald Trump is simple.   He shouldn't be running as a Republican.   It's obvious he's no conservative,  and he's given money and support to the other party.   

He should be running as an independent.   He keeps threatening to do so if he isn't "treated fairly".   And the GOP shows how immasculated it is by kissing his evil ass.   

If he were running as an independent,  then I could care less what  vote for him.  I don't want him as the nominee of my party.  I will leave the GOP if he's the nominee - and I'm not the only one.   Trump is an EFFING disgrace to anyone who takes conservative and Republican politics seriously.   He will drag down the Senate with him, and the only weapon we have against asinine judicial appointments.

If folks want to vote for him, solid.  But not as a Republican.   This cat's unhinged, unmoored, unprincipled and uncouth.  I agree with Rand Paul - the only thing that matters now is to deny this man the nomination of the Party of Lincoln.     

[Luis Gonzalez]

Welcome back Louis......

Well, first off, I don't expect anyone to do anything, especially ML... I simply share my view and she, as well as anyone else, can take it or leave it.

As far as McCain and Romney they did not fight back.  They sat in their seats during the debates and let Obama beat them over the head with idiotic accusations, then Obama laughed at them, that is why they lost.  Why go to the polls and vote if the guy your voting for won't stand up and fight back and even if he wins what chance is there that he/she will actually do something besides attend cocktail parties?

What the GOP has got to understand is that even if a GOP candidate, any candidate, gets every GOP vote in the world, it is still not enough to win the election.
If the GOP is going to win, they will have to convince the independents and "blue dog" democrats to vote for them as well as draw out the traditional non-voters.
In doing so the GOP candidate is likely going to have to appear "less that stellar" at times... Do I like that, of course not, but that is just the fight we have.

Independents that twice voted for a Socialist radical will not be swayed by a polar opposite Social Conservative.

It won't happen.

Let me tell you what is going to happen.

After years of the right-wing calling the GOPe names and insulting them, maybe that dreaded GOPe will stand on their principles if one of those conservatives gets the nod.

Welcome to Hillary.

[Luis Gonzalez]

[HAPPY2BME]

That's not going to happen.

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Bring PRND2R1 in here and let's have a party.

[Jazzhead]

Brilliant find,  Luis.   That quote from Hayek describes, of course, the "Good Germans" - those self-satisfied "good people" whose anger and frustration caused them to lose their moral compasses and overlook evil.

[DCPatriot]

That's great... was not sure anyone would pick up on that

Aw crap.....how could I have missed that?   

[DCPatriot]

So, when "the fight that we were in" was a right-wing moderate war hero or a right-wing moderate Mormon versus the most radically progressive Socialist, Muslim sympathizer ever to run for the title of POTUS, "conservatives" and many evangelicals exercised the option of standing on their principles and gave us eight years of Obama, but now you expect musiclady to set her principles aside "for the good of the nation" and vote for some repugnant, vulgar, immature brat who supports more leftist ideas than the majority of the people that have been booted from this site for being "libtards"!

That's rich.

In order for a Republican to win the general election, that candidate would have to win every Electoral vote/State won by Romney in 2012, PLUS flip about nine States that went to Obama. Meaning that voters  that were given a choice between the known radical progressive (maybe) Muslim and a moderate Republican in 2012 and chose, either by direct action (vote) or indirect action (not voting) to elect the former and not the later, would now do a massive turnaround and abandon their progressive tendencies in order to vote for a clown with no moral or political compass.

That's not going to happen.

Awwww.....are we being punked?

The freaking TRI-FECTA!!!

Sinkspur, MAC and now you complete it.   

Welcome back, Luis.  I've been trying to keep Mory's Tables open, but times are slow.   

I hope you're feeling well and when you find the time, PM us and let us know. 

[NavyCanDo]

So, when "the fight that we were in" was a right-wing moderate war hero or a right-wing moderate Mormon versus the most radically progressive Socialist, Muslim sympathizer ever to run for the title of POTUS, "conservatives" and many evangelicals exercised the option of standing on their principles and gave us eight years of Obama, but now you expect musiclady to set her principles aside "for the good of the nation" and vote for some repugnant, vulgar, immature brat who supports more leftist ideas than the majority of the people that have been booted from this site for being "libtards"!

That's rich.

In order for a Republican to win the general election, that candidate would have to win every Electoral vote/State won by Romney in 2012, PLUS flip about nine States that went to Obama. Meaning that voters  that were given a choice between the known radical progressive (maybe) Muslim and a moderate Republican in 2012 and chose, either by direct action (vote) or indirect action (not voting) to elect the former and not the later, would now do a massive turnaround and abandon their progressive tendencies in order to vote for a clown with no moral or political compass.

That's not going to happen.

Welcome back Luis. I came back myself after a couple of a month hiatus, hoping to return after the primary craziness is over and Trump is back doing reality TV, and this site has return to some level of civility. But dammit, who we pick as our nominee is to important for me not to have my say, and maybe just maybe change a few hearts and minds about voting for Trump.

[EdinVA]

Aw crap.....how could I have missed that?   

That's ok DC... Wingnut covered for you... :)

[NavyCanDo]

Brilliant find,  Luis.   That quote from Hayek describes, of course, the "Good Germans" - those self-satisfied "good people" whose anger and frustration caused them to lose their moral compasses and overlook evil.

Perhaps you never heard of the "Good Germans" like Hans and Sophie Scholl, Alex Schmorell, Willi Graf, Christopher Probst, and other members of the group the White Rose, who were in active opposition  to Nazi oppression and tyranny, eventually being arrested and executed.
Not all Germans supported the Nazis, and many paid for it with their lives. 

[Wingnut]

Aw crap.....how could I have missed that?   

 

 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Trifecta!!  Sink. MAC. Now, mi hermano... Luis!

:pillowfight: :pillowfight:

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Like an alcoholic that has to increase the amount consumed, or change to hard liquor from beer to get the same buzz, Trump has to bump up his outrageousness to get the same reaction from his red-meat audiences.

Now he's into the "f" word after his "Cruz stole the election" foolishness fell on its face. 

Trump is not the same. He lost Iowa, and he never loses.

Agreed.  If it is OK to use the F word when you're angry why did Trump whisper it?  He could have said "tell those businesses to go screw themselves" and retained the anger and meaning but it wasn't shocking enough to make the papers.  We self censor at this very forum, yet we have no children reading and posting here.  We don't use the F word.  Why is that?

Because we respect our audience, and because we can make a valid point with out shocking language.  I have always believed that if you can't say something meaningful without vulgar expletives, then you probably don't have anything meaningful to say.