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National Review Against Trump
« on: January 22, 2016, 03:30:32 am »


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace

Donald Trump leads the polls nationally and in most states in the race for the Republican presidential nomination. There are understandable reasons for his eminence, and he has shown impressive gut-level skill as a campaigner. But he is not deserving of conservative support in the caucuses and primaries. Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP in favor of a free-floating populism with strong-man overtones.

Trump’s political opinions have wobbled all over the lot. The real-estate mogul and reality-TV star has supported abortion, gun control, single-payer health care à la Canada, and punitive taxes on the wealthy. (He and Bernie Sanders have shared more than funky outer-borough accents.) Since declaring his candidacy he has taken a more conservative line, yet there are great gaping holes in it.

His signature issue is concern over immigration — from Latin America but also, after Paris and San Bernardino, from the Middle East. He has exploited the yawning gap between elite opinion in both parties and the public on the issue, and feasted on the discontent over a government that can’t be bothered to enforce its own laws no matter how many times it says it will (President Obama has dispensed even with the pretense). But even on immigration, Trump often makes no sense and can’t be relied upon. A few short years ago, he was criticizing Mitt Romney for having the temerity to propose “self-deportation,” or the entirely reasonable policy of reducing the illegal population through attrition while enforcing the nation’s laws. Now, Trump is a hawk’s hawk.

He pledges to build a wall along the southern border and to make Mexico pay for it. We need more fencing at the border, but the promise to make Mexico pay for it is silly bluster. Trump says he will put a big door in his beautiful wall, an implicit endorsement of the dismayingly conventional view that current levels of legal immigration are fine. Trump seems unaware that a major contribution of his own written immigration plan is to question the economic impact of legal immigration and to call for reform of the H-1B–visa program. Indeed, in one Republican debate he clearly had no idea what’s in that plan and advocated increased legal immigration, which is completely at odds with it. These are not the meanderings of someone with well-informed, deeply held views on the topic.

As for illegal immigration, Trump pledges to deport the 11 million illegals here in the United States, a herculean administrative and logistical task beyond the capacity of the federal government. Trump piles on the absurdity by saying he would re-import many of the illegal immigrants once they had been deported, which makes his policy a poorly disguised amnesty (and a version of a similarly idiotic idea that appeared in one of Washington’s periodic “comprehensive immigration” reforms). This plan wouldn’t survive its first contact with reality.

On foreign policy, Trump is a nationalist at sea. Sometimes he wants to let Russia fight ISIS, and at others he wants to “bomb the sh**” out of it. He is fixated on stealing Iraq’s oil and casually suggested a few weeks ago a war crime — killing terrorists’ families — as a tactic in the war on terror. For someone who wants to project strength, he has an astonishing weakness for flattery, falling for Vladimir Putin after a few coquettish bats of the eyelashes from the Russian thug. All in all, Trump knows approximately as much about national security as he does about the nuclear triad — which is to say, almost nothing.

Indeed, Trump’s politics are those of an averagely well-informed businessman: Washington is full of problems; I am a problem-solver; let me at them. But if you have no familiarity with the relevant details and the levers of power, and no clear principles to guide you, you will, like most tenderfeet, get rolled. Especially if you are, at least by all outward indications, the most poll-obsessed politician in all of American history.He has shown no interest in limiting government, in reforming entitlements, or in the Constitution. He floats the idea of massive new taxes on imported goods and threatens to retaliate against companies that do too much manufacturing overseas for his taste. His obsession is with “winning,” regardless of the means — a spirit that is anathema to the ordered liberty that conservatives hold dear and that depends for its preservation on limits on government power. The Tea Party represented a revival of an understanding of American greatness in these terms, an understanding to which Trump is tone-deaf at best and implicitly hostile at worst. He appears to believe that the administrative state merely needs a new master, rather than a new dispensation that cuts it down to size and curtails its power.

It is unpopular to say in the year of the “outsider,” but it is not a recommendation that Trump has never held public office. Since 1984, when Jesse Jackson ran for president with no credential other than a great flow of words, both parties have been infested by candidates who have treated the presidency as an entry-level position. They are the excrescences of instant-hit media culture. The burdens and intricacies of leadership are special; experience in other fields is not transferable. That is why all American presidents have been politicians, or generals.

Any candidate can promise the moon. But politicians have records of success, failure, or plain backsliding by which their promises may be judged. Trump can try to make his blankness a virtue by calling it a kind of innocence. But he is like a man with no credit history applying for a mortgage — or, in this case, applying to manage a $3.8 trillion budget and the most fearsome military on earth.

Trump’s record as a businessman is hardly a recommendation for the highest office in the land. For all his success, Trump inherited a real-estate fortune from his father. Few of us will ever have the experience, as Trump did, of having Daddy-O bail out our struggling enterprise with an illegal loan in the form of casino chips. Trump’s primary work long ago became less about building anything than about branding himself and tending to his celebrity through a variety of entertainment ventures, from WWE to his reality-TV show, The Apprentice. His business record reflects the often dubious norms of the milieu: using eminent domain to condemn the property of others; buying the good graces of politicians—including many Democrats—with donations.

Trump has gotten far in the GOP race on a brash manner, buffed over decades in New York tabloid culture. His refusal to back down from any gaffe, no matter how grotesque, suggests a healthy impertinence in the face of postmodern PC (although the insults he hurls at anyone who crosses him also speak to a pettiness and lack of basic civility). His promise to make America great again recalls the populism of Andrew Jackson. But Jackson was an actual warrior; and President Jackson made many mistakes. Without Jackson’s scars, what is Trump’s rhetoric but show and strut?

If Trump were to become the president, the Republican nominee, or even a failed candidate with strong conservative support, what would that say about conservatives? The movement that ground down the Soviet Union and took the shine, at least temporarily, off socialism would have fallen in behind a huckster. The movement concerned with such “permanent things” as constitutional government, marriage, and the right to life would have become a claque for a Twitter feed.

Trump nevertheless offers a valuable warning for the Republican party. If responsible men irresponsibly ignore an issue as important as immigration, it will be taken up by the reckless. If they cannot explain their Beltway maneuvers — worse, if their maneuvering is indefensible — they will be rejected by their own voters. If they cannot advance a compelling working-class agenda, the legitimate anxieties and discontents of blue-collar voters will be exploited by demagogues. We sympathize with many of the complaints of Trump supporters about the GOP, but that doesn’t make the mogul any less flawed a vessel for them.

Some conservatives have made it their business to make excuses for Trump and duly get pats on the head from him. Count us out. Donald Trump is a menace to American conservatism who would take the work of generations and trample it underfoot in behalf of a populism as heedless and crude as the Donald himself.


http://c7.nrostatic.com/article/430126/donald-trump-conservatives-oppose-nomination

click link to read opinion from Glenn Beck, David Boaz, Brent Bozell, Mona Charen, Erick Erickson, Bill Kristol, Thomas Sowell, and more.

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2016, 03:42:32 am »
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2016, 05:21:29 am »
The GOP has destroyed conservatism and now these jokers at the National Review want to lecture me?  I couldn't despise these people more. 

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2016, 05:22:44 am »
Admittedly I learned about this while watching The Kelly File. It is, imo, a major development in the contest to see who will be the Republican nominee for President.



"The country's most prominent conservative news magazine is publishing a special issue denouncing Donald Trump's presidential candidacy.

More than 20 notable conservative thinkers, including William Kristol, Erick Erickson, and Glenn Beck, contributed to Friday's issue of National Review, whose cover loudly displays the words "Against Trump."

“Donald Trump is a menace to American conservatism who would take the work of generations and trample it underfoot on behalf of a populism as heedless and crude as The Donald himself,” the magazine wrote in an editorial, according to the New York Times.

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The 22 authors who contributed to the manifesto are:
•Glenn Beck
•David Boaz
•L. Brent Bozell III
•Mona Charen
•Ben Domenech
•Erick Erickson
•Steven F. Hayward
•Mark Helprin
•William Kristol
•Yuval Levin
•Dana Loesch
•Andrew C. McCarthy
•David M. McIntosh
•Michael Medved
•Edwin Meese III
•Russell Moore
•Michael B. Mukasey
•Katie Pavlich
•John Podhoretz
•R. R. Reno
•Thomas Sowell
•Cal Thomas"

http://www.businessinsider.com/national-review-to-publish-against-trump-issue-2016-1?op=1

I am less than fond of NR and haven't paid much attention to it since the Nixon years, but I have to admit there are some heavy hitters among those signers.



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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2016, 05:26:03 am »
Oh, fiddle! A difference in headlines means I missed the thread started by Once-Ler covering this same topic.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,192084.msg768590/topicseen.html#msg768590

Someone please add mine to his as his was first.
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2016, 05:26:12 am »
The GOP has destroyed conservatism and now these jokers at the National Review want to lecture me?  I couldn't despise these people more.

I was scratching my head with most of the people in the article   Example.. Bill Kristol?????? :silly:

Their reasoning and messages are negated by over half the contibutors **nononono*


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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2016, 05:32:37 am »
I was scratching my head with most of the people in the article   Example.. Bill Kristol?????? :silly:

Their reasoning and messages are negated by over half the contibutors **nononono*

Ok, a mixed bag. But in addition to a non-entity like Kristol there is L. Brent Bozell III, Dana Loesch, Katie Pavlich, Thomas Sowell, and some others I, at least, consider Conservatives and whose opinions I listen to. 
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2016, 05:42:49 am »
Marketing...not bad, they'll sell a lot more than usual just by invoking Trump's name.

Except for the interest (and perhaps sales) generated from the unique presentation, it will have the opposite effect of what was intended.
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2016, 05:44:09 am »
This is in the true tradition of Bill Buckley,  and NR.   Trump is a menace,  not just to the nation, but to conservatism itself.   This is our moment of temptation,  and the devil wears a fright wig.  NR nails it: 

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Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP in favor of a free-floating populism with strong-man overtones.

Bravo!  Shills say the panic is on, but those who fought with Ronaldus  say the fight is on.   
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2016, 06:18:48 am »
The GOP has destroyed conservatism and now these jokers at the National Review want to lecture me?  I couldn't despise these people more.
I beg to differ. Contemporary conservatism has largely rested on decades old laurels, and has failed to convince, convert, educate people and replace the aging and shrinking numbers.

Therefore conservatism is leaping from pillar to post every few months with something new but weak. Oh let's try the Tea Party. Let's have Michelle Bachman's husband claim he can cure homosexuality.

Let's have a pro-life stance which essentially would make an abortion illegal for a female that was raped.

And back and forth amnesty-no amnesty. Oh let's deport 11 million, round them up.

Sorry but they simply have too many unpopular positions, and often come of as easily portrayed silly fools, like Christine O'Donnell etc.

With Obama they said he was not eligible and claimed he was born in Kenya or Indonesia. Then they claim Cruz is eligible even though he was born in Canada.

Inconsistent, to the max. Most of the time the GOP was advising to not do the stupid moves, but to no avail.

I say conservatives have ruined the conservative movement, not the GOP.

And if you are paying attention the failure of conservatism is being replaced by populism and nationalism, with Trump. Cuz it works, where conservatism fails.
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2016, 01:03:49 pm »
I am less than fond of NR and haven't paid much attention to it since the Nixon years, but I have to admit there are some heavy hitters among those signers.

Big difference between liberals and Conservatives, we don't go in for group think. Unlike the Left, Conservatives don't look to a "Conservative Establishment" to tell us what we should do or think.


Conservatives are the Blacks on the GOP plantation.

For decades we have shook our heads wondering why blacks line up to vote for the Dims decade after decade despite the utter destruction the Dims have brought to their community.

Trump has made many of them realize Conservatives are the Blacks of the GOP plantation. We line up year after year, sacrifice our time and money, and what do we get? A GOP political machine this is virtually identical to the Dims who comes around every 2 years saying "If you just give us this, everything will be awesome."

Ask yourself this. Despite giving the entire Government to the GOP under Bush, was any item on the Conservative agenda advanced?

Sadly the answer is NO. And what many of us are realizing is the tools of the Conservative establishment i.e. National Review, Town-hall, Heritage Foundation, Club for Growth,  Weekly Standard, Fox News, etc are the GOP equivalents of the "Civil Rights Leaders" that keep Blacks on the Democrat's plantation.They all like to posture as "Anti Establishment" but all make their money by  keeping "politics as usual" running in DC

Cruz is just the latest red herring of this "keep the Conservatives on the plantation" stick. Cruz does not have the ability to go over the heads of the political/media/business machine and get the American people behind him. Cruz will mouth all the right slogans and do nothing but what the Political/Media/Business machine tells him to do. If he oppose them, he will be tied up with phony media manufactured scandals and a uniformly hostile Congressional Leadership until he knuckles under in desperation to build SOMETHING for his "legacy"

You are going to have to tear down the DC Political/Business/Media machine before it can be rebuilt. Trump can do that, Cruz cannot. The national body politic needs radical chemotherapy, not a tummy tuck, a nose job and some Botox injections.




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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2016, 01:42:16 pm »
I am less than fond of NR and haven't paid much attention to it since the Nixon years, but I have to admit there are some heavy hitters among those signers.

Big difference between liberals and Conservatives, we don't go in for group think. Unlike the Left, Conservatives don't look to a "Conservative Establishment" to tell us what we should do or think.


Conservatives are the Blacks on the GOP plantation.

For decades we have shook our heads wondering why blacks line up to vote for the Dims decade after decade despite the utter destruction the Dims have brought to their community.

Trump has made many of them realize Conservatives are the Blacks of the GOP plantation. We line up year after year, sacrifice our time and money, and what do we get? A GOP political machine this is virtually identical to the Dims who comes around every 2 years saying "If you just give us this, everything will be awesome."

Ask yourself this. Despite giving the entire Government to the GOP under Bush, was any item on the Conservative agenda advanced?

Sadly the answer is NO. And what many of us are realizing is the tools of the Conservative establishment i.e. National Review, Town-hall, Heritage Foundation, Club for Growth,  Weekly Standard, Fox News, etc are the GOP equivalents of the "Civil Rights Leaders" that keep Blacks on the Democrat's plantation.They all like to posture as "Anti Establishment" but all make their money by  keeping "politics as usual" running in DC

Cruz is just the latest red herring of this "keep the Conservatives on the plantation" stick. Cruz does not have the ability to go over the heads of the political/media/business machine and get the American people behind him. Cruz will mouth all the right slogans and do nothing but what the Political/Media/Business machine tells him to do. If he oppose them, he will be tied up with phony media manufactured scandals and a uniformly hostile Congressional Leadership until he knuckles under in desperation to build SOMETHING for his "legacy"

You are going to have to tear down the DC Political/Business/Media machine before it can be rebuilt. Trump can do that, Cruz cannot. The national body politic needs radical chemotherapy, not a tummy tuck, a nose job and some Botox injections.

How misguided you are.  Thinking conservatives still read with interest the opinions of NR, the Heritage Foundation, the Wall Street Journarl, Krauthammer,  Podhoretz,  Goldberg,  Noonan, etc., etc., etc.   Articulation, adherence to principle, and (horror or horrors) nuance and pragmatism are their stock in trade.

Yahoo conservatives are just as beholden to their own "establishment",  worshipping at the feet of talk radio blowhards and new media "revolutionaries".   

And Cruz is far more anti-DC than Trump.  Trump has played the game for years,  paying off the politicians, flip-flopping his positions, and keeping his lawyers fat and happy as he runs his businesses through the bankruptcy mill. 

 Trump is supported by fools.  And most conservatives are not fools.   
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2016, 01:55:31 pm »
The GOP has destroyed conservatism and now these jokers at the National Review want to lecture me?  I couldn't despise these people more.

This is my favorite line: Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP in favor of a free-floating populism with strong-man overtones.

Got a great laugh out of that one!

I was happy when Reagan won. Reagan did great things as president--not all of it was great--but, most was.

Well, that was 35 years ago and ever since, the word 'conservative' has been used like a whip to keep constructionists and libertarians, with no home but the GOP, in line and keep them voting 'Party first, country last'.

And now, in 2016, we've got absolutely nothing to show for our loyalty to "Party."

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2016, 02:00:59 pm »
I was scratching my head with most of the people in the article   Example.. Bill Kristol?????? :silly:

Their reasoning and messages are negated by over half the contibutors **nononono*




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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2016, 02:28:45 pm »
This is my favorite line: Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP in favor of a free-floating populism with strong-man overtones.

Got a great laugh out of that one!


Are you claiming its untrue,  or simply don't care whether it's true?
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2016, 02:39:15 pm »
Are you claiming its untrue,  or simply don't care whether it's true?

That's their opinion. It is the primary season, after all. Opinions within the party do vary during this process.

I have no fear of Trump after reading a lot about his personal life and learning what kind of man Trump is.

The only thing Donald Trump is unmoored from is the Washington DC status quo, which most of us here agree is the problem.

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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2016, 02:39:32 pm »
...

I am less than fond of NR and haven't paid much attention to it since the Nixon years, but I have to admit there are some heavy hitters among those signers.

My thoughts, too.  NR has (in my experience) been a mixed bag, and you have to sort out the good from the bad.  There are a lot of solid conservatives among this group.

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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2016, 02:56:51 pm »
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2016, 02:57:53 pm »
The GOP has destroyed conservatism and now these jokers at the National Review want to lecture me?  I couldn't despise these people more.

These 'jokers' aren't the GOP, they are tried and true Conservatives. These are the people the GOP has opposed to side with the likes of McCain, Boehner, and McConnell. Now, the GOP is opposing the National Review in favor of the latest RINO who can be bought, Trump. http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,192117.0.html

In other words, attacking the National Review, you are siding with the GOPe you complain about.

What does it say when you are siding with the GOPe's choice and attacking the opinion of, among others, Thomas Sowell?


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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2016, 06:27:43 pm »
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/01/22/charlie_hurt_where_was_national_reviews_outrage_over_candidates_who_supported_amnesty_bank_bailouts.html

Washington Times and Breitbart columnist Charles Hurt reacts to the the cover story of this week's National Review: Conservatives Against Trump.

The story features conservatives of various stripes (including Glenn Beck, Thomas Sowell, and Brent Bozell) explaining why Donald Trump's "shoot-from-the-hip, bombastic showoff" personality is the "last thing we need as president."

Appearing on Thursday night's The Kelly File, Charles Hurt wonders where the "unified conservative outrage" was when Congress passed the bank bailouts, or when President Bush led us to war in Iraq, or over immigration reform.

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CHARLES HURT: I don't really see how it is going to be that effective, because most of the people out there supporting Donald Trump so jubilantly right now, are not reading the National Review or the Wall Street Journal editorial page, or any of these other publications that are held in such high regard around here.

But I have to say, I get that they're making these arguments, it is good, I applaud that, but my goodness, when you look at the policies, many of which came from conservatives for years out of Washington. Why didn't they have any outrage over that?

Where was this unified conservative outrage over the bank bailout in 2008? Where is the unified conservative outrage over launching a trillion-plus dollar war paid for with nothing but debt, where is the outrage over Republican politicians who come along and supported amnesty?

MEGYN KELLY: This is some of the stuff that fuels, in a large part, Trump's candidacy.

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2016, 06:34:33 pm »
They are the backers of McCain and Romney...they are masters of the "45% solution".  If they had been effective, we wouldn't have had 8 years of Obama Transformation. So they like career politicians, great, but that isn't working in the post-Obama era.
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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2016, 03:58:27 am »
We line up year after year, sacrifice our time and money, and what do we get? A GOP political machine this is virtually identical to the Dims who comes around every 2 years saying "If you just give us this, everything will be awesome."

That's not fair, GAJ. After all one thing we got was the Omnibus Spending Bill.

Oh, wait...
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2016, 04:08:40 am »
That's not fair, GAJ. After all one thing we got was the Omnibus Spending Bill.

Oh, wait...

Where was an entire special edition devoted to chastising Ryan and the republicrats for sticking our kids with yet another bloated budget for items and things that are an affront to the people and is paid for with borrowed money. Rome is burning. And these people at NRO don't get it.

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2016, 05:14:55 am »
•Glenn Beck
•David Boaz
•L. Brent Bozell III
•Mona Charen
•Ben Domenech
•Erick Erickson
•Steven F. Hayward
•Mark Helprin
•William Kristol
•Yuval Levin
•Dana Loesch
•Andrew C. McCarthy
•David M. McIntosh
•Michael Medved
•Edwin Meese III
•Russell Moore
•Michael B. Mukasey
•Katie Pavlich
•John Podhoretz
•R. R. Reno
•Thomas Sowell
•Cal Thomas"

Where is the list of conservative thinkers who support Trump?

Sarah Palin
Bob Dole
Willie Robertson
Tom Brady
Gary Busey
Joy Behar
David Duke

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Re: National Review Against Trump
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2016, 06:02:58 am »
To be fair to Bob Dole, he didn't say he supported Trump. Just that Trump would be better than Cruz (which I find just as wrong). :beer:
That's ok I forgot about Ted Nugent.

"Donald Trump is the hellraiser America has needed for a very long time. He and Ted Cruz may be the only hope to end the criminal jihad on America by our own corrupt punkass government, media and bigBiz goons. Are there enough Americans smart enough to end the nightmare? It is up to us, WE THE PEOPLE to make certain everyone in our lives is awakened to their WE THE PEOPLE responsibilities and stop the America hating devil democrats. MAKE IT HAPPEN!"  -Ted "Gonzo" Nugent