Carly Fiorina's Track Record Is Better Than You've Heard

[ABX]

No one has ever mistaken Carly Fiorina for Steve Jobs. But was she really a disastrous CEO at Hewlett-Packard, the Palo Alto, California-based global computing and information technology company she led from 1999 to 2005? As she rises in the polls, Fiorina’s business record is becoming a bigger target. Donald Trump regularly slams her years running a Fortune 20 company. The New York Times trumpets opinion pieces branding her a failure in that job. The headlines suggest the 61-year-old Republican single-handedly destroyed HP, from which she was fired....


...Numbers may not lie, but in some cases they don’t tell the whole story. And in Fiorina’s case, they may be misleading. While her tenure at HP may not have been as successful as Fiorina boasts, it was by no means the horror show her critics portray....

http://www.newsweek.com/carly-fiorina-382096

[Longiron]

Maybe the NYT should read this from a little unknown Business magazine. Not better than most have heard if one follows this stuff other than listening to the RINOGOP, Media and Talking heads looking to get TRUMP out?



http://fortune.com/2015/08/14/carly-fiorina-president-2/ 

[truth_seeker]

Maybe the NYT should read this from a little unknown Business magazine. Not better than most have heard if one follows this stuff other than listening to the RINOGOP, Media and Talking heads looking to get TRUMP out?



http://fortune.com/2015/08/14/carly-fiorina-president-2/ 

This article is by Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, who is on a mission to discredit her. Sonnenfeld is a Clinton insider.

https://carlyforamerica.com/blog/who-is-jeffrey-sonnenfeld/

But our member here, has suggested he would vote for the democrats.

[EC]

Thank you, t_s. It's sometimes a bit of a pain to remember to check the slant of the op-ed writer.

[truth_seeker]

Thank you, t_s. It's sometimes a bit of a pain to remember to check the slant of the op-ed writer.

Fine. When a certain member here posts, remember 1) He always says RINOGOP, and 2) He has stated he would vote democrat.

So it is not really a surprise that his objections to Fiorina fit his democrat REALITY.

[ABX]

Let's not make things personal with other members y'all.

[Longiron]

This article is by Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, who is on a mission to discredit her. Sonnenfeld is a Clinton insider.

https://carlyforamerica.com/blog/who-is-jeffrey-sonnenfeld/

But our member here, has suggested he would vote for the democrats.

He may be on a mission to destroy her but certain facts are facts when exposed and cannot be lied about. If he luved Carly he cannot hide her record as a business person, think the religion of peace is a good thing. They might not report it or overlook it BUT they still are FACTS. True I would vote for a DEM over Bushie, RUBIO or any other RINO if you like it or not BUT the way it looks I will be voting for TRUMP, CRUZ or CARSON and all  will make CARLY Sec of Nothing which she might be able to handle.

[truth_seeker]

He may be on a mission to destroy her but certain facts are facts when exposed and cannot be lied about. If he luved Carly he cannot hide her record as a business person, think the religion of peace is a good thing. They might not report it or overlook it BUT they still are FACTS. True I would vote for a DEM over Bushie, RUBIO or any other RINO if you like it or not BUT the way it looks I will be voting for TRUMP, CRUZ or CARSON and all  will make CARLY Sec of Nothing which she might be able to handle.

Thanks for confirming your DEMOCRAT leanings.

The kind of people on this site I can respect, say they will vote for ANY Republican over ANY democrat.

[Relic]

Thanks for confirming your DEMOCRAT leanings.

The kind of people on this site I can respect, say they will vote for ANY Republican over ANY democrat.

In other words, the only people you respect agree with you.
But then, I knew that.

[truth_seeker]

In other words, the only people you respect agree with you.
But then, I knew that.

I do NOT respect people on a supposedly Republican/conservative forum that say they will vote for democrats, period.

I do NOT respect somebody that says they will vote for Hillary or Bernie, over Rubio, period.

Make what you will of that. 

[musiclady]

I do NOT respect people on a supposedly Republican/conservative forum that say they will vote for democrats, period.

I do NOT respect somebody that says they will vote for Hillary or Bernie, over Rubio, period.

Make what you will of that.

I am staunchly on your side on this one, t_s.

I doubt anyone's credibility who says he will vote for a Dem for President.

There is no way on earth that such person is a conservative, no matter what else said person claims.

[Longiron]

Thanks for confirming your DEMOCRAT leanings.

The kind of people on this site I can respect, say they will vote for ANY Republican over ANY democrat.

And thus far how that has been working for you. 2014 and 2012 gave the RINOGOP the House and Senate and they are stronger supports of Obama agenda that the DEMS except for TC, Mike LEE and the Freedom and LIBERTY Caucus in the HOUSE. Name one difference between a RINO and DEM? At least the DEM you know where they stand and are willing to fight. Don't like what they fight for but they have COURAGE something the RINOGOP lost years ago, The conservatives being in the minority in the House RINOGOP are raising all kind of hell as fighters and if they stay strong the RINOS will cave on the SPEAKER. The message just has to get back home of the RINOGOP in the HOUSE especially in the RED States and they will CAVE and that is what they do best.

[libertybele]

He may be on a mission to destroy her but certain facts are facts when exposed and cannot be lied about. If he luved Carly he cannot hide her record as a business person, think the religion of peace is a good thing. They might not report it or overlook it BUT they still are FACTS. True I would vote for a DEM over Bushie, RUBIO or any other RINO if you like it or not BUT the way it looks I will be voting for TRUMP, CRUZ or CARSON and all  will make CARLY Sec of Nothing which she might be able to handle.

Longiron - I understand your contempt for the GOP establishment and I too at one time thought I could cast a vote for a DEM over Bush because of the experience with him as a governor.  The majority of the rave reviews given him from what I experienced is false. I agree with you.  I cannot with a clear conscious vote for someone I don't like.  In the primaries that is much easier to do. Then comes the General Election. Now let's take a look at the flip-side for a minute. The Dems have Hillary and all her baggage, her now evident betrayal to this country with Benghazi (she made decisions and it wasn't someone else pulling her strings), Bernie Sanders who is a proclaimed socialist, Webb who we rarely hear about and perhaps even Crazy Uncle Joe who has served two terms with Obama.  Pulling the lever for any of them is pulling the lever to continue us on the same pathway. 

[Bigun]

And thus far how that has been working for you. 2014 and 2012 gave the RINOGOP the House and Senate and they are stronger supports of Obama agenda that the DEMS except for TC, Mike LEE and the Freedom and LIBERTY Caucus in the HOUSE. Name one difference between a RINO and DEM? At least the DEM you know where they stand and are willing to fight. Don't like what they fight for but they have COURAGE something the RINOGOP lost years ago, The conservatives being in the minority in the House RINOGOP are raising all kind of hell as fighters and if they stay strong the RINOS will cave on the SPEAKER. The message just has to get back home of the RINOGOP in the HOUSE especially in the RED States and they will CAVE and that is what they do best.

No one regards the current GOP "leadership" with more contempt than I do. NO ONE!  But voting  for a Democrat  (Communist) is NOT the answer!

[truth_seeker]

I am staunchly on your side on this one, t_s.

I doubt anyone's credibility who says he will vote for a Dem for President.

There is no way on earth that such person is a conservative, no matter what else said person claims.

Thanks. Now we all know where such an individual is coming from.

I was going to say more, but I made my point, and will spend no more time on that or those which I cannot respect.

The idea that governance from Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or Carly Fiorina would be inferior to governance by Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders is simply absurd, and granting any standing to those who would make such claims is out of the question.

[libertybele]

Ok...so Fiorina's "track record" is up for debate.  We can ping-pong this back and forth.  The real problem really lies with the fact that she has no political experience except in California trying to run for Boxer's seat in which we all know she lost.  So it gets down for me, credibility.  Is she truthful?  It seems she lied about having a daughter .... she has no biological children... but yet she claimed she had a daughter.  She also at best twisted the truth regarding a planned parenthood video.  While I find the actions of Planned Parenthood despicable ... she was less than truthful.  She lied about being a secretary when she was hired in and then worked her way up...another lie.  She was a secretary before she graduated college and after college she hired in at  as a manager trainee...so again she lied.  She laid off thousands of workers which she stated was for the good of the corporation, but yet she lined her pockets well enough to be able to purchase several yachts.  No not a lie. But, that doesn't sit well.  Sure Carly is good at selling herself, but her actions speak volumes.  She does for Carly and no one else.  We don't need someone like Obama in the White House for the next 4 years.

If we take a look at other issues; illegal immigration, 2nd amendment rights, abortion rights, free trade, social security, etc., etc.,  she has no voting record so, we can only go by the integrity she has previously displayed.  In my books, she has little credibility, so what she says about illegal immigration, 2nd amendments rights, etc., I feel should be take with a grain of salt. 

Even with her lack of credibility, if she is the last REP standing - I would vote for her.

[truth_seeker]

In my books, she has little credibility, so what she says about illegal immigration, 2nd amendments rights, etc., I feel should be take with a grain of salt.

The question under consideration is: Do you vote for Fiorina, or for Boxer?

Boxer=Hillary=Bernie=Biden

An imperfect Fiorina is nevertheless than any democrat.

[musiclady]

Thanks. Now we all know where such an individual is coming from.

I was going to say more, but I made my point, and will spend no more time on that or those which I cannot respect.

The idea that governance from Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or Carly Fiorina would be inferior to governance by Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders is simply absurd, and granting any standing to those who would make such claims is out of the question.

I totally agree.

Once a poster has made such an absurd statement...... literally saying that Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders would be a better President, even though they are leftist extremists than Jeb Bush or Carly Fiorina......... not a single word said by the poster should be taken seriously.

We are in the fight for our very existence as a nation, and claiming publicly that one would vote for its ruination by voting for almost literally a COMMUNIST, means that the nation's survival is of no importance to you.

There is no way on EARTH any conservative would do such an irresponsible thing, no matter how many times he gripes about the "GOPe."  The guy is not conservative.  Period.

[bkepley]

Ok...so Fiorina's "track record" is up for debate.  We can ping-pong this back and forth.  The real problem really lies with the fact that she has no political experience except in California trying to run for Boxer's seat in which we all know she lost.  So it gets down for me, credibility.  Is she truthful?  It seems she lied about having a daughter .... she has no biological children... but yet she claimed she had a daughter.  She also at best twisted the truth regarding a planned parenthood video.  While I find the actions of Planned Parenthood despicable ... she was less than truthful.  She lied about being a secretary when she was hired in and then worked her way up...another lie.  She was a secretary before she graduated college and after college she hired in at  as a manager trainee...so again she lied. 

I don't like Fiorina either for president but I took a look at each of these claims and all I can say is saying she "lied" about these things is pushing the envelope.

[kevindavis007]

I totally agree.

Once a poster has made such an absurd statement...... literally saying that Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders would be a better President, even though they are leftist extremists than Jeb Bush or Carly Fiorina......... not a single word said by the poster should be taken seriously.

We are in the fight for our very existence as a nation, and claiming publicly that one would vote for its ruination by voting for almost literally a COMMUNIST, means that the nation's survival is of no importance to you.

There is no way on EARTH any conservative would do such an irresponsible thing, no matter how many times he gripes about the "GOPe."  The guy is not conservative.  Period.

 

[Longiron]

I do NOT respect people on a supposedly Republican/conservative forum that say they will vote for democrats, period.

I do NOT respect somebody that says they will vote for Hillary or Bernie, over Rubio, period.

Make what you will of that.

You really think Sanders has a shot at the Dem nomination. Let's talk about a bridge for sale in Mahatten ? Tell me the difference between Hillary and a RINO? This is not going to happen? There is no difference and beside don' t worry about whom anyone votes for other than youself . Beside I will be voting for TRUMP or Cruz, Carson. You keep supporting the RINOS it works well for you. Sorry to say and he is not going anywhere in the Lib party but Jim Webb is nore conservative than any RINO in the DC Cartel. 

[kevindavis007]

You really think Sanders has a shot at the Dem nomination. Let's talk about a bridge for sale in Mahatten ? Tell me the difference between Hillary and a RINO? This is not going to happen? There is no difference and beside don' t worry about whom anyone votes for other than youself . Beside I will be voting for TRUMP or Cruz, Carson. You keep supporting the RINOS it works well for you. Sorry to say and he is not going anywhere in the Lib party but Jim Webb is nore conservative than any RINO in the DC Cartel. 

Jim Webb Conservative?? What the hell are you smoking??

[libertybele]

The question under consideration is: Do you vote for Fiorina, or for Boxer?

Boxer=Hillary=Bernie=Biden

An imperfect Fiorina is nevertheless than any democrat.

??? Thought I had answered; "Even with her lack of credibility, if she is the last REP standing - I would vote for her."

[Longiron]

Jim Webb Conservative?? What the hell are you smoking??

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Compared to Hillary, Sanders, BiteME and BUSHIE, Christie, Rubio there is no difference and he is just if not more conservative than the above. For the 1000 time please tell everyone the difference between a Dem and a RINOGOP ? You all have standards to what a conservative is but thus far no one will explain the difference between a Dem and RINO. Most anyone will state the difference between a Conservative and a RINO or Dem but not the other way around . The short answer is their is no difference and that is why voting for a Dem other than a RINO is the same vote. However, it makes most RINOS feel good they voted Republican when they know there is no difference. But feeling good is ok and what are you smoking?

[Bigun]

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Compared to Hillary, Sanders, BiteME and BUSHIE, Christie, Rubio there is no difference and he is just if not more conservative than the above. For the 1000 time please tell everyone the difference between a Dem and a RINOGOP ? You all have standards to what a conservative is but thus far no one will explain the difference between a Dem and RINO. Most anyone will state the difference between a Conservative and a RINO or Dem but not the other way around . The short answer is their is no difference and that is why voting for a Dem other than a RINO is the same vote. However, it makes most RINOS feel good they voted Republican when they know there is no difference. But feeling good is ok and what are you smoking?

I happen to agree with you that htere is no real difference between a RINO and a Democrat but is still makes a difference which one you vote for IMHO.

First you get Republican majorities and THEN you go RINO hunting!  That's my theory and I'm sticking to it!