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Donald Trump’s presidential platform mirrors almost perfectly the opinions of the Tea Party movement. But there’s one major difference between Trump’s views and those of conservatives: Trump supports broad application of eminent domain. That’s the government’s power to seize private property and sell it to someone else against the will of the present owner.


Conservatives hate it. Trump loves it. Eminent domain property seizure with the help of local governments is a key tool Trump has used to create his vast property empire.


Will conservative support flag once Trump’s stance on eminent domain is widely known? Or will Trump conceal or change his mind on the issue, the way he’s already done with universal health care and abortion? One thing is certain: Something’s got to give.


Below, find evidence of Trump’s unrestrained use of eminent domain property seizures. His support of the doctrine flies in the face of what many conservatives consider an inviolate right of private property owners.


Eminent Domain: Trump’s Not-So-Secret Weapon


In his campaign speeches, Trump has promised a national renewal and resurgence without providing many specifics on how he plans to do this. In his own real estate empire, it’s easy to see how: by convincing local governments to condemn private property. They take it away, then turn around and sell it to him.


The rebuilding of cities — aka urban or property “renewal” —  has historically involved and invoked the government’s power to take private property under the power of eminent domain.


But no one loves eminent domain property seizure more than Trump. He has made his billions in the property market and has encouraged local governments to use their powers of eminent domain to seize private property and re-sell it to other private entities who might better use the property..


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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2015, 12:39:07 pm »
Meanwhile at Breitbart:

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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2015, 12:52:26 pm »
Meanwhile at Breitbart:




That can be some people here as well..
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2015, 12:57:12 pm »
What a scumbag.  Use the power of government to take someone elses property to add to his riches.

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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2015, 01:05:40 pm »
What a scumbag.  Use the power of government to take someone elses property to add to his riches.


Yet people complained about Mitt Romney (who made his money without the power of the Government).
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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2015, 02:02:29 pm »
Donald Trump’s presidential platform mirrors almost perfectly the opinions of the Tea Party movement.

Says who?

Sal Russo founder of Tea Party Express, a group he still runs, has far different opinion about Trump. This below from the Washington Examiner interview.

Russo's verdict: The frustration with Washington and the political establishment that Trump has tapped into with his unorthodox, blunt style is very real and shouldn't be dismissed. Trump has risen in part by taking a hard line on illegal immigration. But the New Yorker's comments have been interpreted by some as broadly anti-immigrant, and Russo said that Trump's message lacks the substantive seriousness and positive, uplifting vision required to turn anti-establishment agitators, like President Ronald Reagan, into winners at the ballot box.

Examiner: What do you make of Donald Trump?

Russo: Both Trump and Bernie Sanders are taking advantage of abject frustration with the established order — on the left and the right. People think the system doesn't work. The manifestations are, of course, candidates that speak very boldly but not necessarily in ways that make them universally popular. The problem with their electability is, protest candidates aren't usually successful. Those that are successful articulate a vision for the future.

Examiner: Has Trump caught fire with Tea Party voters?

Russo: I would say no to that. We continually poll our donors to see what they're thinking and he has not polled very well.

Examiner: Can Trump win?

Russo: We have never in modern times elected a protest candidate as president. The candidate with the more forward looking agenda has tended to win all of the time. So the big question is, can Trump turn his protest movement into something more appealing to the general public? The personality candidates seem to often be the protest candidates, which means there is a limited shelf life. People want a vision.

And this from yesterday.  Trump places 3rd  - YES 3rd in Tea Party Poll


Donald Trump third in STL Tea Party poll; Ted Cruz on top

http://fox2now.com/2015/08/01/donald-trump-third-in-stl-tea-party-poll-ted-cruz-on-top/

(KTVI-ST. LOUIS) Donald Trump is surging in GOP presidential polls ahead of next week’s first Republican debate among the party’s presidential candidates, but the controversial businessman finished third in a sampling of conservative activists, according to a survey released Saturday by the St. Louis Tea Party Coalition.

In email polling of 122 coalition members conducted July 26 through July 29, Texas Senator Ted Cruz came in first at 29 percent, followed by Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker at 27 percent, with Trump at 19 percent. The rest of the crowded GOP field finished in single digits.


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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2015, 02:11:28 pm »
Facts are stubborn things. Yet in politics they can be made to yield easily to expediency.

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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2015, 03:38:27 pm »
Says who?

Sal Russo founder of Tea Party Express, a group he still runs, has far different opinion about Trump. This below from the Washington Examiner interview.

Russo's verdict: The frustration with Washington and the political establishment that Trump has tapped into with his unorthodox, blunt style is very real and shouldn't be dismissed. Trump has risen in part by taking a hard line on illegal immigration. But the New Yorker's comments have been interpreted by some as broadly anti-immigrant, and Russo said that Trump's message lacks the substantive seriousness and positive, uplifting vision required to turn anti-establishment agitators, like President Ronald Reagan, into winners at the ballot box.

Examiner: What do you make of Donald Trump?

Russo: Both Trump and Bernie Sanders are taking advantage of abject frustration with the established order — on the left and the right. People think the system doesn't work. The manifestations are, of course, candidates that speak very boldly but not necessarily in ways that make them universally popular. The problem with their electability is, protest candidates aren't usually successful. Those that are successful articulate a vision for the future.

Examiner: Has Trump caught fire with Tea Party voters?

Russo: I would say no to that. We continually poll our donors to see what they're thinking and he has not polled very well.

Examiner: Can Trump win?

Russo: We have never in modern times elected a protest candidate as president. The candidate with the more forward looking agenda has tended to win all of the time. So the big question is, can Trump turn his protest movement into something more appealing to the general public? The personality candidates seem to often be the protest candidates, which means there is a limited shelf life. People want a vision.

And this from yesterday.  Trump places 3rd  - YES 3rd in Tea Party Poll


Donald Trump third in STL Tea Party poll; Ted Cruz on top

http://fox2now.com/2015/08/01/donald-trump-third-in-stl-tea-party-poll-ted-cruz-on-top/

(KTVI-ST. LOUIS) Donald Trump is surging in GOP presidential polls ahead of next week’s first Republican debate among the party’s presidential candidates, but the controversial businessman finished third in a sampling of conservative activists, according to a survey released Saturday by the St. Louis Tea Party Coalition.

In email polling of 122 coalition members conducted July 26 through July 29, Texas Senator Ted Cruz came in first at 29 percent, followed by Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker at 27 percent, with Trump at 19 percent. The rest of the crowded GOP field finished in single digits.

Sal Russo Thought he was CLUB for GROWTH. Does not matter he is one of the TP Hijacker groups that took a GREAT movement and made a fortune off it and supports very few candidates. They are operatives of the RINOGOP and totally in this for PERSONAL financial gain along with the other 1000+ TP groups. He is REAL creditable alonf with Matt kerbe, Freendom Works, Jenny Beth Martin TP Patriots and other hijacker groups. TRUMP gets in they GET out and they know it as welll as the RINOGOP.

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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2015, 03:52:49 pm »
Sal Russo Thought he was CLUB for GROWTH. Does not matter he is one of the TP Hijacker groups that took a GREAT movement and made a fortune off it and supports very few candidates. They are operatives of the RINOGOP and totally in this for PERSONAL financial gain along with the other 1000+ TP groups. He is REAL creditable alonf with Matt kerbe, Freendom Works, Jenny Beth Martin TP Patriots and other hijacker groups. TRUMP gets in they GET out and they know it as welll as the RINOGOP.

Did you read the article? If so does it bother you in how Trump made his billions?
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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2015, 04:02:40 pm »
Trump is an equal opportunity employer, using citizens and illegal immigrants alike, to build the properties upon land taken using eminent domain.

What a guy. Viva "free enterprise" in America. What Trump cannot buy, he'll incentivize big government to condemn and take the eminent domain way.

And then brag without an ounce of humility, how smart and rich he is.
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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2015, 04:09:10 pm »
That really is the worst, but just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the corrupt way he has built his empire. His businesses have not only been built on the backs of eminent domain seizures, but corporate welfare, and underhanded use of the government as a hammer to attack rivals. He is the king of lobbyists to not only influence legislation but to actually destroy lives (like getting legitimate family businesses condemned so the government can take their property and give it to him so he can build a casino).

There is nothing Conservative or free market about Trump.

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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2015, 04:21:01 pm »
That really is the worst, but just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the corrupt way he has built his empire. His businesses have not only been built on the backs of eminent domain seizures, but corporate welfare, and underhanded use of the government as a hammer to attack rivals. He is the king of lobbyists to not only influence legislation but to actually destroy lives (like getting legitimate family businesses condemned so the government can take their property and give it to him so he can build a casino).

There is nothing Conservative or free market about Trump.


Indeed...
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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2015, 05:05:09 pm »
Sal Russo is a professional for-profit fundraiser. He saw a niche in all things "Tea Party" a few years back, so he went and got himself his very own "Tea Party" and I continually get emails from various people and organizations he contracts with, to raise money.

Are his clients conservative? Yes, by the present definition.  Does he speak for the "Tea Party?"

He'll speak for anybody that will pay him. Commissions of funds raised, and commissions again on the same money for advertisements placed.

Sal Russo's organizations are based in Sacramento, and he resides in San Clemente.

Wiki: "Russo worked on a range of establishment Republican campaigns going back three decades. He was an aide to Ronald Reagan when Reagan was governor of California. Russo has also worked for Orrin Hatch, Jack Kemp, and George Pataki."

He be a great big opportunist, keeping fat and happy plucking the pockets clean, of gullible "true conservatives."

Gullible as in "how's Donald doing" these days?

Russo's motto:  Any kooks will do, for candidates and for supporters. Bachmann, Angle, O'Donnell, to name a few of his clients.

Discernment is not a contemporary conservative value, in an age of mediocre candidates, mediocre representatives, in the hands of slick opportunists.

Russo in the news:

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/sal-russo-and-conservative-circle-scam
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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2015, 05:11:11 pm »
Since many of you want to use this hack as a tool to cover your jelousy I thought you may want to know who Thomas Ewing is:
He is a IP lawyer in San Francisco and has never had a real job.

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His expertise includes software and computer-related inventions, telecommunications, business methods, bioinformatics, and electro-mechanical devices. Mr. Ewing has represented a wide range of high technology companies during his career, including Apple Computer, Cisco Systems, eBay, the Honda Research Institute, Intuit, Listen (Rhapsody), Micron, NEC, Netflix, Sharp, Alcatel, and Vulcan, Inc.
http://www.ip-research.org/scholars/thomas-ewing-2/


Obviously missing from his list of represented clients is Mr. Trump but he sure represented the cream of the crops of equally complicit organizations but chooses to wield his liberal ax on Trump.

I thought TBR people were better than this....

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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2015, 05:20:10 pm »
Since many of you want to use this hack as a tool to cover your jelousy I thought you may want to know who Thomas Ewing is:
He is a IP lawyer in San Francisco and has never had a real job.


Obviously missing from his list of represented clients is Mr. Trump but he sure represented the cream of the crops of equally complicit organizations but chooses to wield his liberal ax on Trump.

I thought TBR people were better than this....


Well there are other sources that clearly showed Donald Trump used Eminent domain to grow his 'Empire'.... Nice try...
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2015, 05:26:37 pm »

Well there are other sources that clearly showed Donald Trump used Eminent domain to grow his 'Empire'.... Nice try...

Eminent Domain declarations are done by the local/state government which represents the people in that jurisdiction so any use by Trump was within the laws of that jurisdiction and with the blessings of the citizens, otherwise it would not have happened.

Did he create jobs?
Did he violate laws other than hurt your feelings because he is successful?
How many of his competitors do the same thing every single day?
How about Microsoft, talk about hiring cheap foreign labor, but your not whining about them.

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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2015, 05:32:08 pm »
That really is the worst, but just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the corrupt way he has built his empire. His businesses have not only been built on the backs of eminent domain seizures, but corporate welfare, and underhanded use of the government as a hammer to attack rivals. He is the king of lobbyists to not only influence legislation but to actually destroy lives (like getting legitimate family businesses condemned so the government can take their property and give it to him so he can build a casino).

There is nothing Conservative or free market about Trump.
But it is ok for Bushie who is a major stockholder in the company that does the TESTING for common core. Wonder if that has anything to do with him pushing Commor Core, lets dumb they down the future generation more than my brother has done with "no child left behind". And the CEO of GE on Obama business committee gets nothing from the Gov't. BUT that successful, my own person, WINNER Trump is the bad guy who also plays to win and that is something most Pubbies are not use to doing. However, thay are experts at CAVING and Abessement and that has worked real well thus far.  To all of the TRUMP haters on here. If he is such an idiot, crook, dumb Billionaire who had fallen into it WHY is he leading the RINOGOP as a 3rd party candidate  which he is really running as????.  ARE you all just to smart for this board and the rest of the country???????? 11513
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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2015, 05:34:08 pm »
Eminent Domain declarations are done by the local/state government which represents the people in that jurisdiction so any use by Trump was within the laws of that jurisdiction and with the blessings of the citizens, otherwise it would not have happened.

Did he create jobs?
Did he violate laws other than hurt your feelings because he is successful?
How many of his competitors do the same thing every single day?
How about Microsoft, talk about hiring cheap foreign labor, but your not whining about them.


Look at this video:
http://youtu.be/SmM4ZBoppNQ
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2015, 05:35:47 pm »
Eminent Domain declarations are done by the local/state government which represents the people in that jurisdiction so any use by Trump was within the laws of that jurisdiction and with the blessings of the citizens, otherwise it would not have happened.

Did he create jobs?
Did he violate laws other than hurt your feelings because he is successful?
How many of his competitors do the same thing every single day?
How about Microsoft, talk about hiring cheap foreign labor, but your not whining about them.

Yeah he created a bunch of jobs for illegals in construction and landscaping.  <joking>

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Re: Donald Trump’s Achilles Heel: Eminent Domain Property Seizure
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2015, 05:36:08 pm »
But it is ok for Bushie who is a major stockholder in the company that does the TESTING for common core. Wonder if that has anything to do with him pushing Commor Core, lets dumb they down the future generation more than my brother has done with "no child left behind". And the CEO of GE on Obama business committee gets nothing from the Gov't. BUT that successful, my own person, WINNER Trump is the bad guy who also plays to win and that is something most Pubbies are not use to doing. However, thay are experts at CAVING and Abessement and that has worked real well thus far.  To all of the TRUMP haters on here. If he is such an idiot, crook, dumb Billionaire who had fallen into it WHY is he leading the RINOGOP as a 3rd party candidate  which he is really running as????.  ARE you all just to smart for this board and the rest of the country???????? 11513


You do realize that there are other candidates besides Trump and Bush.. What is wrong with Rubio, Jindal, Carly, Cruz, Walker, or Kasich?? 
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2015, 05:39:49 pm »
But it is ok for Bushie who is a major stockholder in the company that does the TESTING for common core. Wonder if that has anything to do with him pushing Commor Core, lets dumb they down the future generation more than my brother has done with "no child left behind". And the CEO of GE on Obama business committee gets nothing from the Gov't. BUT that successful, my own person, WINNER Trump is the bad guy who also plays to win and that is something most Pubbies are not use to doing. However, thay are experts at CAVING and Abessement and that has worked real well thus far.  To all of the TRUMP haters on here. If he is such an idiot, crook, dumb Billionaire who had fallen into it WHY is he leading the RINOGOP as a 3rd party candidate  which he is really running as????.  ARE you all just to smart for this board and the rest of the country???????? 11513

Why do you always do this?????  Just askin'????????

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2015, 05:42:54 pm »

You do realize that there are other candidates besides Trump and Bush.. What is wrong with Rubio, Jindal, Carly, Cruz, Walker, or Kasich??

With the exception of Cruz, they are all milktoast.  More of the same go along to get along.

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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2015, 05:48:32 pm »
With the exception of Cruz, they are all milktoast.  More of the same go along to get along.


Bull... So I take it you hate Perry as well..
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2015, 05:51:41 pm »

Look at this video:
http://youtu.be/SmM4ZBoppNQ

Again, did Trump break the law?
Evidently the laws in NJ allow for Eminent Domain to private individuals or corporations.
Virginia just passed a constitutional amendment to prevent that so if the citizens of NJ want to stop it then fix the laws.
I am not endorsing how Trump uses the law to his advantage but just because he has a team of smart lawyers and figures out how to make the law work for him instead of against him does not make him the criminal you are trying to portray him as.

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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2015, 05:53:30 pm »

Bull... So I take it you hate Perry as well..

Kevin, I don't hate anyone, I don't think that the others have real fight in them to make the changes we need made this time around.
As I have stated before, I like Perry.  He is smart and a great problem solver but he is a gentleman and will be destroyed in the general by the left.