Wesley Clark Promotes Internment Of 'Radicalized' US Citizens

[rangerrebew]

Wesley Clark Promotes Internment Of 'Radicalized' US Citizens 


By John Amato

 
I've always liked Wes Clark. I interviewed him in 2005, when the topic of torture was new and fresh in our minds and he told me how disappointed he was in Dick Cheney. Our cell phone connection was horrible, but he called me back from the airport.

I say this because when I watched this segment I was as totally shocked as Digby was. I hope he rethinks his position after he listens to what he actually said. He's talking about bringing back WWII Japanese style internment camps to America, which has always been a blight on US history. How can you catch a person who is unhappy or depressed before they become a lone wolf? And of course, who would decide if a person was "radicalized?" Ann Coulter, maybe? Michelle Malkin, who wrote a sick book defending the use of internment camps?

Digby:
 

Yes, Wes Clark really said what I said he said folks

I have always liked Clark. And he said some reasonable stuff in his interview with Thomas Roberts this morning before he said the following.

Roberts asked him what we needed to do about "self-radicalization" which seems to be the short-hand for a Muslim (as opposed to a white supremacist or a conspiracy theorist or just some nut) who reads some crazy stuff on the internet and decides to go out in a blaze of glory:


Clark: We have got to identify the people who are most likely to be radicalized. We've got to cut this off at the beginning. There are always a certain number of young people who are alienated. They don't get a job, they lost a girlfriend, their family doesn't feel happy here and we can watch the signs of that. And there are members of the community who can reach out to those people and bring them back in and encourage them to look at their blessings here.


But I do think on a national policy level we need to look at what self-radicalization means because we are at war with this group of terrorists. They do have an ideology. In World War II if someone supported Nazi Germany at the expense of the United States, we didn't say that was freedom of speech, we put him in a camp, they were prisoners of war.

 
So, if these people are radicalized and they don't support the United States and they are disloyal to the United States, as a matter of principle fine. It's their right and it's our right and obligation to segregate them from the normal community for the duration of the conflict. And I think we're going to have to increasingly get tough on this, not only in the United States but our allied nations like Britain, Germany and France are going to have to look at their domestic law procedures.

People are arguing with me on twitter that he couldn't have said this, but he did. If you still don't believe me go watch the tape yourself.

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/07/wesley-clark-promotes-segregation?utm_content=bufferc30d5&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[bkepley]

Of course.  Democrats favorite General.  As long as it's a Dem choosing who gets locked up they aren't excited.

[Free Vulcan]

So Mr. Clark, are you going to lock yourself up? Because I find you pretty radical. Oh wait, that only counts for your political opposition. Muslim terrorists and Black Panthers - they b ok.

[truth_seeker]

At the time of WWII Americans supported internment. It was Japanese, Italians and Germans, who were our enemies in a declared war. And there WAS evidence of threats. Some evidence late proved correct. There WERE agents of our enemies here among our population.

Japanese were trying to hit us along the Pacific Coast. Nets were placed at the entrance to harbors, like Lost Angeles/Long Beach--to guard against submarines. The entire area was under nighttime blackout, lest it be easy to bomb certain targets. Greater LA and San Diego were aircraft manufacturing sites. There were many many military bases, for all branches.

Ships shelled an oilfield north of Santa Barbara. And somewhere in Oregon they shelled. We also know they sent balloons with explosives.

The objections to internment came long after the war.

Wesley Clark is right. The enemy has already announced they are at war with us. It is about 14 years late, for us to go on a war footing at home, where they are now openly and notoriously hitting us.

The first step would, of course, shut off the inflow. Absent that, the rest would be less effective. This latest enemy combatant traveled to the Mideast.

[bkepley]

Would you let the Obama administration lock up people without right to trial?

[truth_seeker]

Would you let the Obama administration lock up people without right to trial?

Opening sentence, we were in a DECLARED war with Japan, Germany and Italy. Yes I would support rounding up people that were tied to our known enemies.

If you studied the life living in internment camps, it wasn't torture, and there were exceptions, and ways out.

Many of those who spoke later, did not claim to have been mistreated.

My father worked on building one, and Heart Mountain Wyoming. Then he enlisted in the Marines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_Mountain_Relocation_Center

[DCPatriot]

It should be pointed out here that those Facebook surveys and quizzes are first and foremost a vehicle to develop personal profiles on individuals.

And if you get your noses off the bark, you'll see that's not being paranoid.

Stop and think before you join in. 

[Fishrrman]

Apologies to Stanley Kubrick and Sterling Hayden...