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John McCain and Jay Carney go at it on CNN (Video)
« on: September 11, 2014, 03:59:53 am »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/09/10/things-get-heated-between-mccain-and-carney-on-cnn-video/

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“I’m astounded that Mr. Carney should say that the Free Syrian Army is now stronger.”

“You just didn’t choose to know. I was there in Syria. We knew that – c’mon … your boss is the one that, when the entire national security team wanted to arm and train them, that he turned them down, Mr. Carney…”

“Facts are stubborn things, Mr. Carney. … The fact that they didn’t leave a residual force in Iraq, overruling all of his military advisers is the reason why we’re facing ISIS today."

“You, in your role as a spokesperson, bragged about the fact that the last American combat troop had left Iraq. If we had left a residual force, the situation would not be what we have today.”

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"It's not a matter of disagreement, it's a matter of facts, and you have yours wrong and you have distorted."

Welcome to CNN Jay.  You're a liar, just like your boss.

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Welcome To CNN, Jay Carney: McCain SLAMS Former WH Spox Following Obama Speech
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2014, 09:06:32 am »
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Welcome To CNN, Jay Carney: McCain SLAMS Former WH Spox Following Obama Speech

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In his first appearance as a CNN contributor, former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney got into a sparring match with a more-than-willing Sen. John McCain over the current situation in Iraq and Syria, and whether the Iraq War could have helped to avoid the mess the U.S. is currently facing with ISIS:


Anderson Cooper: “Senator McCain, you and I spoke just last week about. You said President Obama had no goal, no strategy when it came to destroying ISIS. What did you think about what you heard tonight?”

Sen. McCain: “I think it was a very weak argument. And by the way, I’m astounded that Mr. Carney should say that the Free Syrian Army is now stronger. In fact, they have been…”

Jay Carney: “Well, that’s not that I said, Senator. If I could, sir, what I said is, if we know a great deal more now about the makeup of the opposition..”

McCain: “Come on, Jay, we knew all about them then. You just didn’t choose to know. I was there in Syria. We we knew about them. Come on, you guys were the ones, your boss was the one when the entire national security team wanted to arm and train them that he turned them down, Mr. Carney. After a…”

Carney: “Well Senator, I think we have to agree to disagree on this.”

McCain: “No, facts are stubborn things, Mr. Carney, and that is his entire national security team, including the Secretary of State said he want to arm and train and equip these people and he made the unilateral decision to turn them down. The fact he didn’t a residual force in Iraq, overruled all of his military advisers, is the reason why we’re facing ISIS today.”

“So the facts are stubborn things in history and people ought to know them. And now the president is saying, basically, that we are going to take certain actions, which I would favor, but to say that America is safer, and that the situation is very much like Yemen and Somalia shows me that the president really doesn’t have a grasp for how serious the threat of ISIS is.”




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Re: John McCain and Jay Carney go at it on CNN (Video)
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2014, 12:56:08 pm »
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McCain Rips Jay Carney: You 'Distorted' Facts on Iraq
Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:43 PM

By: Greg Richter

Former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney's honeymoon didn't last long in his first day as a CNN contributor, when Sen. John McCain accused him of distorting facts.

The two were part of a panel discussing the speech President Barack Obama had just finished on his plan to attack the Islamic State (ISIS) with airstrikes in Syria.

McCain almost immediately went after Carney, taking issue with a statement he had made earlier about the Free Syrian Army rebels, for whom McCain has long urged U.S. support.

"I'm astounded that Mr. Carney should say that the Free Syrian Army is now stronger. In fact, they've been badly, badly damaged," McCain said.

"Well, Senator, that's not what I said . . . I said we know a great deal more about the makeup of the opposition," Carney responded.

"Come on, Jay. We knew all about them then. You just didn't choose to know. I was there in Syria. We knew them. Come on . . . your boss is the one that when the entire national security team wanted to arm and train them he turned them down, Mr. Carney," McCain said.

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Carney tried to ease the tension by suggesting they would have to "agree to disagree on this."

"No, facts are stubborn things, Mr. Carney," McCain shot back, pointing out that Obama's entire national security team wanted to arm, equip and train the rebels. "He made the unilateral decision to turn them down."

McCain also pointed out that Obama overruled all of his military advisers when he refused to leave a residual force in Iraq.

That, McCain said, "is the reason why we're facing ISIS today."

McCain said he favors the actions Obama now says he plans to take, "but to say that America is safer and that the situation is very much like Yemen and Somalia shows me that the president really doesn't have a grasp for how serious the threat of ISIS is."

Carney said the Iraqi government didn't want a residual force and the American people didn't support troops there in perpetuity.

"You know, Mr. Carney, you are again saying facts that are patently false," McCain said. He said that he, along with Sens. Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman, visited Baghdad. "They wanted the residual force."

McCain also accused Carney in his former role as Obama's spokesman of bragging that the last U.S. combat troop had left Iraq. That pullout caused the situation on the ground today, McCain said.

Carney again tried to say the two simply had a difference of opinion, but McCain refused to yield.

"It's not a matter of disagreement. It's a matter of facts. And you have yours wrong, and you have distorted them," McCain said.
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Re: John McCain and Jay Carney go at it on CNN (Video)
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In fairness, what the hell was Jay Carney doing on John McCain's lawn?

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