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You jest... but the leftist officials are still holding out hope that Trump will act like the dictator they've been accusing him of, and do just that.   It would make for a fine Biden campaign slogan in October.

Oh, so worried about what the commies will think.  Maybe they won't vote for him if he restores order.
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PeteS wrote:
"Mayors have the first line of responsibility in enforcing the law in their city. The next resort is the county. Third in line is the state. The Feds are the LAST, not the first resort. Because US Constitution."

Your point is well taken, Pete.
But let's consider the problems in Portland right now...
- The mayor won't do anything
- The county (if there is authority there) has done nothing
- The state (governor) has done nothing.
Who does that leave left to "do something" ????

That's just it -- when the mayor of the city and the governor of the State fail to respond or cannot control the "insurrection" then the President has the full authority to act.  Trump however is not bound by the Constitution, but you are correct, who does that leave but him if those in authority in the states don't act?  Sure he can continue to do nothing but all that is doing is allowing the chaos to spread.  Not a good thing to allow to happen unless you want eventual anarchy in every state and at that point the U.S. is prime target for a take over; either Sharia law or U.N. occupation. Just my opinion here.
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Oh, so worried about what the commies will think.  Maybe they won't vote for him if he restores order.
It isn't what the commies will think that concerns me, but how they can spin reality in the minds of those who haven't and rarely do think.

We have a couple of generations out there who can vote but couldn't swing the logic to exit a (non-environmentally friendly--save a tree!) paper bag if you cut the bottom out. FWIW, they can vote, and be readily swayed by illogical feelings based commentary masquerading as purveyed fact in social media herds, marching like lemmings to their destruction.

Unfortunately, they can take the rest of us with them.
Let the media spin Trump as a neo-Pinochet, and they just might.
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So far Trump's response is not to respond other than make idle threats for the podium.

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Funny, but she don't look scared.  :whistle:
Yabbut! that was before Neil Armstrong showed it could happen!
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'They're like war zones': Trump criticizes mayors —Democratic ones — over crime surges
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Yahoo NewsJuly 15, 2020, 1:40 PM


President Trump on Wednesday criticized the leadership of cities he likened to “war zones,” hinting that he may seek to have the federal government intervene to bring down crime rates.

Trump spoke from the Oval Office at an event called to discuss the Justice Department’s efforts to take down the international crime gang MS-13. But he went on to criticize local officials in cities such as Minneapolis and Chicago who, he said, have done a poor job at containing violence in their communities.

“They’re like war zones,” he told reporters. “And if the city isn’t going to straighten it out, if local politicians, all in this case, I don’t say this for political reasons, they’re all Democrats. They’re liberal, left-wing Democrats. And it’s almost like they think this is going to be this way forever, where in Chicago, 68 people were shot and 18 died last week. We’re not gonna put up with that.”

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Blame the stupid residents  of shitwholes like Minneapolis and Seattle, for electing socialists.
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Yabbut! that was before Neil Armstrong showed it could happen!

But, did he REALLY?  :whistle: :cool:

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Ona dese days Alice, ona dese days... POW! right in the kisser!  *****rollingeyes***** :laugh:

Oh my gosh, Jackie Gleason -- one of my Dad's favorites.  I had forgotten about him.
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Blame the stupid residents  of shitwholes like Minneapolis and Seattle, for electing socialists.

Exactly. How in the heck does any person thinking with a semi-clear head and with even half a brain, elect someone like Ilhan Omar? 
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Exactly. How in the heck does any person thinking with a semi-clear head and with even half a brain, elect someone like Ilhan Omar?
Racism, islamism, and Democrats doing their "diversity" thing.
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Oh my gosh, Jackie Gleason -- one of my Dad's favorites.  I had forgotten about him.

The quintessential blowhard. I don't know why he came to mind...  :shrug: :whistle: :laugh:

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Yabbut! that was before Neil Armstrong showed it could happen!

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PeteS wrote:
"Mayors have the first line of responsibility in enforcing the law in their city. The next resort is the county. Third in line is the state. The Feds are the LAST, not the first resort. Because US Constitution."

Your point is well taken, Pete.
But let's consider the problems in Portland right now...
- The mayor won't do anything
- The county (if there is authority there) has done nothing
- The state (governor) has done nothing.
Who does that leave left to "do something" ????

Serious question @Fishrrman   --- are the people demanding more than their local/state governments are doing?

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Exactly. How in the heck does any person thinking with a semi-clear head and with even half a brain, elect someone like Ilhan Omar?

The same way the country elected Barack Obama and Donald Trump
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Serious question @Fishrrman   --- are the people demanding more than their local/state governments are doing?
Another serious question, for those who remained in those Liberal enclaves: Do they dare?

To do so puts them on multiple target lists from street thugs to Code Enforcement and the Health Department...
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Another serious question, for those who remained in those Liberal enclaves: Do they dare?

Sorry, but I've no interest in scratching that zit.  If the locals governments won't stand and demand help then (at least some of) the people must.

Without either of these options, I don't see how the President marches the military into Chicago or Minneapolis, or New York City.

We may need to fight this battle the old fashioned way ... at the ballot box.  In which case it's up to the President to make a strong case for throwing out the old political machine.

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It isn't what the commies will think that concerns me, but how they can spin reality in the minds of those who haven't and rarely do think.

We have a couple of generations out there who can vote but couldn't swing the logic to exit a (non-environmentally friendly--save a tree!) paper bag if you cut the bottom out. FWIW, they can vote, and be readily swayed by illogical feelings based commentary masquerading as purveyed fact in social media herds, marching like lemmings to their destruction.

Unfortunately, they can take the rest of us with them.
Let the media spin Trump as a neo-Pinochet, and they just might.

Are you talking about those liberals and people who never have voted that attend Trump rallies for the comedy?
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Sorry, but I've no interest in scratching that zit.  If the locals governments won't stand and demand help then (at least some of) the people must.

Without either of these options, I don't see how the President marches the military into Chicago or Minneapolis, or New York City.

We may need to fight this battle the old fashioned way ... at the ballot box.  In which case it's up to the President to make a strong case for throwing out the old political machine.
My point is that until the election, the locals may not dare demand help from the local governments which have routinely failed to do anything or get help, for fear of being exposed and becoming the next chosen target of the looters and rioters.
Come the election, they can vote the rat b@st@rds out.
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Are you talking about those liberals and people who never have voted that attend Trump rallies for the comedy?
Do those exist? I thought they just got tickets to be dogs in the manger.
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C S Lewis

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Do those exist? I thought they just got tickets to be dogs in the manger.

At TBR, the tickets are free.  We have mangers lined up.....

It's the popcorn that costs.   :2popcorn:
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My point is that until the election, the locals may not dare demand help from the local governments which have routinely failed to do anything or get help, for fear of being exposed and becoming the next chosen target of the looters and rioters.

I got that. My point is unless there's a call for help from the local/state governments or a clarion call from a state's citizens I just don't see the President garnishing the support to march the US military into Chicago, Minneapolis or New York City. 

I just don't -- and I firmly believe he wants to.