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TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« on: January 29, 2012, 07:48:23 pm »



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2PXlUjWz5M



I'm your huckleberry Tombstone scene

One of the good ones in the Western genre!  Of this generation anyway.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2012, 09:05:19 pm »
There's an excellent Science fiction author out there by the name of John Ringo...pick up "Live Free or Die" and "Citadel".....


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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 10:20:50 pm »
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Re: TOMBSTONE
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 11:48:54 pm »
Without clicking, I recognize Jack Palance's character Jack Wilson from the movie Shane. 

Purely coincidence I watched Shane last night.  The film is brilliant in every respect.  Won Best Picture 1953, and with cause.  A masterpiece of the art.  Visually stunning. 

You know you're watching something special right from the opening sequence.  Location shots were filmed in Jackson Hole with the Grand Tetons looming in the background. 

The lyric quality to the dialogue gave the film a poetic nature.  The use of visual foreshadowing and symbolism is unparalleled in any western I've ever seen. 

Casting Alan Ladd was a stroke of genius in my opinion.  His understated performance made him loom as large as the Tetons and created an imposing figure in the film.

Do I love the film Shane?  You bet.

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Re: TOMBSTONE
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 11:13:20 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTJQYGkf-cc

Here's another one of my all time favorites....right up there with Shane!

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Re: TOMBSTONE
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 07:53:26 am »

open range scene

Nobody could have played the scenes better than Robert Duvall {Boss Spearman} and Kevin Costner (Charley Waite).

...and Annette Bening. (Sue Barlow)

One of my favorites of all time.  Thanks for posting. 

Interesting tidbit... the heavyset cafe keeper in the grey vest is Herb Kohler, general principle of Kohler Company in Kohler, Wisconsin.  He became friends of Kevin Costner while vacationing in South Dakota during the filming of Dances with Wolves
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Re: TOMBSTONE
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 03:13:30 pm »

Winchester '73 Official Trailer #1 - James Stewart Movie (1950) HD

This is another one that was recently making the rounds on Encor Western cable.

Very good way to spend Sunday morning....in bed watching Westerns.  LOL!
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 03:33:14 pm »

Shane (1953)

And as AC has already said....here's the Godfather of all Westerns.
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 03:42:27 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyuwBW9lNa8

Once Upon a Time in the West, opening scene

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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2012, 03:44:46 pm »
I hope this applies to this thread...but my fav western has to be The Searchers....





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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2012, 03:59:35 pm »
I hope this applies to this thread...but my fav western has to be The Searchers....




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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 04:07:40 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii_7QnXPQxA

The trailer of this Classic!

...although I loved Audie Murphy, Joel McCrea in leading roles too.
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2012, 04:14:00 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2012, 04:16:08 pm »

For A Few Dollars More (Theme by Ennio Morricone)

I use Clint Eastwood as a barometer of just how old I'm getting.

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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2012, 04:19:01 pm »
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2012, 04:29:40 pm »
Yeah.....there are some terrific Western movies.

It was a special time,  when the American Spirit was necessary to survive and prosper.
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2012, 04:42:20 pm »

Frenchie

Shelley Winters was sooooo hot back then.  She wore the Western corset gowns better than anyone!  (Not that I pay any special attention to that, LOL!)
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2012, 05:02:36 pm »
Which one did you like better, Lando?

One of the things that has always bugged me about these gunfight scenes is that Hollywood loses all sense of reality when it comes to how many bullets a SIX-SHOTTER can fire.

Open range was notorious for that.  In one scene, Costner had as many as a extra-large 9mm clip.

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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2012, 10:55:12 pm »
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Re: TOMBSTONE - and the Western Genre
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2012, 08:41:46 am »
Speaking of Westerns, sort of, I tried to watch "Brokeback Mountain" on TV the other night. I figured, well, even though the subject matter doesn't appeal to me, it was highly regarded, so what the heck.

OMG, one of the top ten worst movies I've ever seen in my life! Clearly, all those great reviews were nothing more than political correctness run amok.  Augghhh. I didn't even watch the whole thing and I feel the need to repent for wasting a few hours of my life in that way.
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« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2012, 10:15:26 am »
Which one did you like better, Lando?

One of the things that has always bugged me about these gunfight scenes is that Hollywood loses all sense of reality when it comes to how many bullets a SIX-SHOTTER can fire.

Open range was notorious for that.  In one scene, Costner had as many as a extra-large 9mm clip.

It has been awhile but I recall that I liked Wyatt Earp better overall between the two.  I believe it better depicted how narrow the separation was between the "good" and the "bad" in order for the good to prevail.  Val Kilmer played Doc Holliday far better than Dennis Quaid, tho. 


I know the scene in Open Range you speak of... at least a dozen shots were fired in rapid succession.  Why would they film it that way?
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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2012, 03:49:13 pm »
Lonesome Dove!  Loved that series. 


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« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2012, 06:10:35 pm »
Yes....Lonesome Dove was terrific.

Anything Robert Duvall does in the Western genre is a huge hit.  Not that he made the series by himself.....
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« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2012, 06:56:45 pm »
Yes....Lonesome Dove was terrific.

Anything Robert Duvall does in the Western genre is a huge hit.  Not that he made the series by himself.....

Way too much attention is paid to Brad Pitt and George Clooney, Roberty Duvall is 10 x the actor either man will ever be.
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« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2012, 09:41:48 pm »
Way too much attention is paid to Brad Pitt and George Clooney, Roberty Duvall is 10 x the actor either man will ever be.

Agreed, agreed, agreed.  Amazing he played Boo in To Kill a Mockingbird.
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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2012, 09:53:52 pm »
I thought Brad Pitt was very good in Legends of the Fall.

We'll call it a Western hybrid.
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« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2012, 09:58:14 pm »
I just watched the clip of the Tombstone gunfight.  Doc (Val Kilmer) fires three times from the double barrel.  I guess he must have reloaded.
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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2012, 10:23:54 pm »
I thought Brad Pitt was very good in Legends of the Fall.

We'll call it a Western hybrid.

Yes, but then he went more commercial rather than meaty roles.  Legends had a great cast and script.
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« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2012, 10:32:24 pm »

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Can't help it!

Because of that scene and the one where he cold cocked the horse, I always treated Blazing Saddles as a comedy.

I wouldn't hesitate to put the remote down should it appear on the screen...but it's not a serious Western imho. 
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« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2012, 10:34:36 pm »

For a Fistful of Dollars

Now THIS is a good one!
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« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2012, 10:44:37 pm »
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« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2012, 10:45:48 pm »

Tombstone Part 8 of 13

Here's the shootout, I believe.  Doc gets the shotgun.

He shoots those pistols at least 20 times after he throws down the shotgun...especially when he's trying to shoot into the store where Ike is hiding.
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« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2012, 10:55:57 pm »
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« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2012, 11:00:32 pm »
Thanks for starting this thread DCP.  Great stuff!
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« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2012, 11:19:10 pm »
Darn you, Lando! 

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« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2012, 11:23:52 pm »
There never was or will be again anyone like John Wayne.
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