Trump announces holding Canada DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE through TARIFFS for the devastating fires and ha

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2078200424784433541

[rustynail]

Can't we adjust our wind turbines so they will blow the smoke away or back to canada?

[Cyber Liberty]

Put a high Tariff on lumber, it'll drive the Canadians nutz.

[Wingnut]

Another Import from Canada we don't need.  Hold the Hosers accountable for their actions.

[cato potatoe]

Trump hasn’t the slightest clue how much remote, inaccessible forest land is up there.

[Cyber Liberty]

Trump hasn’t the slightest clue how much remote, inaccessible forest land is up there.

According to you, Trump hasn't a clue about anything.

[Wingnut]

Trump hasn’t the slightest clue how much remote, inaccessible forest land is up there.

You can access any forest with a chain saw. 

[roamer_1]

Two-faced bullcrap. 

OPEN the WEST to logging. Open land sales on BLM and USFS lands. Put logging back on the map in the US. Guarantee loooong term regulatory support so investors will feel comfortable putting their money into the infrastructure.

Put up or shut up. The very SAME conditions exist, for the very same reasons, right here at home.

[Wingnut]

Two-faced bullcrap. 

OPEN the WEST to logging. Open land sales on BLM and USFS lands. Put logging back on the map in the US. Guarantee loooong term regulatory support so investors will feel comfortable putting their money into the infrastructure.

Put up or shut up. The very SAME conditions exist, for the very same reasons, right here at home.

The cost of building homes would go down. 

[libertybele]

[roamer_1]

The cost of building homes would go down.

Guaranteed. dimensional lumber, plywood, presswood, paper products...

But it will take a while - All of those mills are long gone and decayed. No one is willing to commit to it while the US government is hostile toward logging and mining.

[LMAO]

Trump hasn’t the slightest clue how much remote, inaccessible forest land is up there.

Yup

[Fantom]

Trump hasn’t the slightest clue how much remote, inaccessible forest land is up there.

O snap.... I knew I should have voted for you as President.

[cato potatoe]

O snap.... I knew I should have voted for you as President.

No, we should have put Donald in charge of boreal forest management, full time.  I’m sure the Canadians would give him a few thousand acres and a rake. 

[Fantom]

No, we should have put Donald in charge of boreal forest management, full time.  I’m sure the Canadians would give him a few thousand acres and a rake.

I have no doubt President Trump would have managed it far far better. Great men do great things.... Trump is one of those men.

[Texas Yellow Rose]

 

Two-faced bullcrap. 

OPEN the WEST to logging. Open land sales on BLM and USFS lands. Put logging back on the map in the US. Guarantee loooong term regulatory support so investors will feel comfortable putting their money into the infrastructure.

Put up or shut up. The very SAME conditions exist, for the very same reasons, right here at home.

[Fantom]

Two-faced bullcrap. 

OPEN the WEST to logging. Open land sales on BLM and USFS lands. Put logging back on the map in the US. Guarantee loooong term regulatory support so investors will feel comfortable putting their money into the infrastructure.

Put up or shut up. The very SAME conditions exist, for the very same reasons, right here at home.

I am glad you support President Trump.....

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/immediate-expansion-of-american-timber-production/

"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

Section 1.  Purpose.  The production of timber, lumber, paper, bioenergy, and other wood products (timber production) is critical to our Nation’s well-being.  Timber production is essential for crucial human activities like construction and energy production.  Furthermore, as recent disasters demonstrate, forest management and wildfire risk reduction projects can save American lives and communities.

The United States has an abundance of timber resources that are more than adequate to meet our domestic timber production needs, but heavy-handed Federal policies have prevented full utilization of these resources and made us reliant on foreign producers.  Our inability to fully exploit our domestic timber supply has impeded the creation of jobs and prosperity, contributed to wildfire disasters, degraded fish and wildlife habitats, increased the cost of construction and energy, and threaten"


https://earth.org/trump-to-open-up-59-million-acres-of-national-forest-to-logging-mining/

"The Trump administration plans to rescind a Clinton-era rule that blocked logging on national forest lands, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins announced Monday.

Speaking at the Western Governors Association annual meeting, Rollins announced a rollback of what she described as the “overly restrictive” Roadless Rule. Introduced by the Clinton administration in 2001, the policy prohibits road construction, reconstruction, and timber harvest on nearly 59 million acres of the National Forest System.

It follows a March executive order and a memo issued by Rollins in April, which laid the groundwork for a major increase in industrial logging across federal forests.

[jafo2010]

I think the time has come for the federal government to at a minimum sell land such that they do not hold more than 50% of the land in any county across the USA.

We have a lake house at Fontana Lake in North Carolina, and the federal government owns 80 -85% of the land in the area.  Just not right IMHO.

[Fantom]

I think the time has come for the federal government to at a minimum sell land such that they do not hold more than 50% of the land in any county across the USA.

We have a lake house at Fontana Lake in North Carolina, and the federal government owns 80 -85% of the land in the area.  Just not right IMHO.

I agree. Non-military/national security land.. and a very few National level land monument.. say Yellowstone/Grand canyon stature. All the rest should revert to the States the land is in.. my preference is sell it to help fund the privatization of social insecurity.

[Smokin Joe]

I agree. Non-military/national security land.. and a very few National level land monument.. say Yellowstone/Grand canyon stature. All the rest should revert to the States the land is in.. my preference is sell it to help fund the privatization of social insecurity.

Since the Congress stole that money by "putting IOUs" in the "lockbox" to buy votes.

[roamer_1]

I am glad you support President Trump.....

Right. He says a whole lotta things. When I can see 30 or 40 logging trucks going through town on any given day (like it was), When the CAT dealer here has a yard full of new skidders and dozers, When the Prentice log loader dealer comes back to town, When the eight major mills in the area fire back up... maybe then I'll believe him.

Money talks, bullshit walks. 

[roamer_1]

I think the time has come for the federal government to at a minimum sell land such that they do not hold more than 50% of the land in any county across the USA.

We have a lake house at Fontana Lake in North Carolina, and the federal government owns 80 -85% of the land in the area.  Just not right IMHO.

I kinda have a love/hate relationship with government lands. I'll tell you this: I HATE it back east, where you have to know somebody with land that is willing to let you hunt and camp. Where everywhere you go, you have to pound out your trip relying on approvals or you are trespassing.

Out here, I can walk for DAYS... Maybe weeks without hitting property... Without hitting a fence, even.

Some of that is large tracts owned by logging companies. Some of that is state lands. But mostly it is fed = The BLM and USFS. It used to be wide open... Open to mining, logging, and cattle... open to through-hiking and outfitting and hunting...Open to 4-wheeling, and quads, and snow machines. Now it's all gated off.

But I could not have had the experience of growing up in a wide, wild land, except that it remained preserved, unlike back east. No punching cows... No cattle drives... No fish camp, no hunting camp... There's something important in all that.

[jmyrlefuller]

Trump hasn’t the slightest clue how much remote, inaccessible forest land is up there.

And yet we didn't have this issue until a few years ago. Ever.

The most we might have is a few days of high smoke clouds creating a slight haze. Now, hazardous air quality is sweeping the entire northeast at least every other year for multiple days in a row. I have no doubt, especially after Trump's 51st-state rhetoric from last year, that they're lighting these fires deliberately. It is an act of war and should be treated as such.

[roamer_1]

And yet we didn't have this issue until a few years ago. Ever.

The most we might have is a few days of high smoke clouds creating a slight haze. Now, hazardous air quality is sweeping the entire northeast at least every other year for multiple days in a row. I have no doubt, especially after Trump's 51st-state rhetoric from last year, that they're lighting these fires deliberately. It is an act of war and should be treated as such.

I don't think that's true. And even if it is, it's incidental. The problem is the 'Let it Burn' mentality of forest management. That's the whole problem, and it has been for years and years.

[cato potatoe]

I don't think that's true. And even if it is, it's incidental. The problem is the 'Let it Burn' mentality of forest management. That's the whole problem, and it has been for years and years.

Active management of the Canadian boreal is mostly a fantasy.  Their forests are more than five times the size of Texas.  They could work on a few areas near population centers, but otherwise it is not worth the effort. 

Instead of humiliating us on the international stage maybe Trump could send resources to Minnesota, where about a third of the smoke is originating. 

[roamer_1]

Active management of the Canadian boreal is mostly a fantasy.  Their forests are more than five times the size of Texas.  They could work on a few areas near population centers, but otherwise it is not worth the effort. 

Instead of humiliating us on the international stage maybe Trump could send resources to Minnesota, where about a third of the smoke is originating.

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Ain't nothing for it once a forest fire is fully engaged. They key historically has been early and active suppression... There were always controlled burns too, to use fire to clear out bramble and brush, which kept ladder fuels under control. NONE of that is practiced anymore, with the 'Let It Burn' management on both sides of the border.

And the forest there is the same forest I live in here. The Kootenai runs through I think, at least 3 states and 2 provinces. It ain't no different here than there.