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« Reply #1900 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 09:10 am »
https://x.com/ConstitustionX/status/2070765372710723999

Rubio gets it.  Well worth repeating:



Secretary of State Marco Rubio just TORCHED JD Vance’s deadly illusion about Iran’s demonic regime in a speech that will send chills down your spine!

THEY. HAVE. NOT. CHANGED.
These blood-soaked savages are STILL the same fanatical DEATH CULT — jihadist monsters who smile while sharpening the knife at America’s throat!
You CANNOT negotiate with pure evil.
You CANNOT reason with creatures who worship death and dream of our annihilation!
This is NOT a country.
This is a SATANIC THEOCRACY sworn to wipe Israel, America, and Western civilization off the face of the Earth!
The gloves are off. The truth is out.
WAKE THE HELL UP, AMERICA!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1901 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 09:12 am »
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🇱🇧🇮🇱 Hezbollah just rejected the Lebanon-Israel framework agreement as a humiliation and a surrender of sovereignty

What possible sovereignty does Hezbollah have?  Lebanon isn't their country.  They are invaders.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1902 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 09:29 am »
What possible sovereignty does Hezbollah have?  Lebanon isn't their country.  They are invaders.

100% correct!  Hezbollah has no "sovereignty," they're just camping out in somebody else's country (and are pretty poor "guests").
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1903 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 09:54 am »
Sounds like someone hates Jews.

Sounds more like someone who is afraid for the Jewish State and is sending a clarion alert:   Israel's management of and communiques for their expanding, neverending war are no longer working. 

The Boomers' numbers and influence are dwindling and the torch is being passed to the next generations of Americans ----- generations split on nearly every issue, except one: Israel.  For vastly different reasons, the next generations reject the Boomer's financial, military and political devotion to Israel, and will act in their best interests.

For once, Netanyahu should be an honest partner for peace and help the Jewish State.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1905 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 10:16 am »
What possible sovereignty does Hezbollah have?  Lebanon isn't their country.  They are invaders.

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AI Overview

 Hezbollah never fully executed a military or legislative coup, but rather built a "state within a state". They gradually secured immense control through a combination of political integration, military supremacy, and a vast social welfare network.

Militant Origins and State Weakness: Hezbollah emerged during the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Backed and trained by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), they established themselves as the primary Shiite resistance force against Israeli occupation.

Political Integration:  After the Israeli withdrawal in 2000:  Hezbollah officially entered mainstream Lebanese electoral politics in 1992, eventually securing parliamentary representation and cabinet positions in 2005.

The 2008 Power Play: When the Lebanese government attempted to dismantle Hezbollah's private telecommunications network in May 2008, Hezbollah mobilized its armed wing to quickly seize control of several areas of Beirut. This forced a government summit in Qatar that granted Hezbollah and its allies veto power in the cabinet.

Social and Institutional Influence: Hezbollah effectively governs the Shiite-majority areas of Lebanon, including southern Lebanon, the Bekaa Valley, and the southern suburbs of Beirut. They maintain a broad network of infrastructure, healthcare facilities, schools, and youth programs, which builds deep, loyal support within their constituent communities.

Because they hold veto power over political decisions and operate an independent military force, Hezbollah functions as the ultimate decision-maker in Lebanon's governance.  Read more about their complex political evolution on the Council on Foreign Relations and Britannica profiles.


More information here:  https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hezbollah

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1906 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 10:28 am »
A little background from AI ---


More information here:  https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hezbollah

@Hoodat Lookit, now she's sourcing an Encyclopedia...while claiming Lebanon is no longer a sovereign nation, but a mere minority component of a terrorist band.  Next she'll be claiming Antifa is now in charge of the United States.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1908 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 10:37 am »
A little background from AI ---

“… ( the) IRGC… established themselves as the primary Shiite resistance force.”

“ Hezbollah effectively governs the Shiite-majority areas of Lebanon.”


We’re negotiating with national governments while confronting transnational religious movements that operate beyond the reach and authority of any single state.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1909 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 10:46 am »
@Hoodat Lookit, now she's sourcing an Encyclopedia...while claiming Lebanon is no longer a sovereign nation, but a mere minority component of a terrorist band.  Next she'll be claiming Antifa is now in charge of the United States.

I can play that game, too.



Hezbollah was founded in 1982 by Lebanese clerics in response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.[26] Inspired by the Iranian Revolution of 1979 and Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini's model of Islamic governance, Hezbollah established strong ties with Iran and is part of the "Axis of Resistance".[27] The group was initially supported by 1,500 Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) instructors, who helped unify various Lebanese Shia factions under Hezbollah's leadership.[28] Hezbollah's 1985 manifesto outlined its key objectives, which include expelling Western influence from the region, destroying Israel, pledging allegiance to Iran's supreme leader, and establishing an Islamic government influenced by Iran's political ideology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah

In other words, Hezbollah is an islamic front organization working at the behest of the IRGC.  @Right_in_Virginia is effectively siding with Hezbollah and the IRGC against Israel.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1910 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 10:53 am »
Interesting info from Brittanica --

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Hezbollah
Lebanese political party and militant group

Hezbollah, Shiʿi Lebanese political party and militant group that first emerged during Lebanon’s civil war as a militia after the Israeli invasion of that country in 1982.

Since the 2000s it has been one of the foremost political forces in Lebanon, a multiconfessional country whose political system is largely divided along sectarian lines. Its close ties with Iran has made it one of the most important components of the Iran-led Axis of Resistance, a group of allied organizations in the Middle East that oppose the influence of Israel, the United States, and Saudi Arabia in the region.

Considered to be the world’s most heavily armed nonstate militia in the 2020s, Hezbollah suffered a considerable blow in September 2024 with targeted attacks by Israel on its infrastructure, fighters, and leaders, including Hassan Nasrallah who built the organization into what it is today.

More https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hezbollah


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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1911 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 10:55 am »
Interesting info from Brittanica --

Interesting that you intentionally ignore the fact that Hezbollah is an IRGC front organization.  Not only that, but it is now actively recruiting in Iran.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1912 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 10:58 am »
Hezbollah terrorists reject US-brokered Lebanon security deal, refuses 'surrender' to Israel: report

Hezbollah leader Naim Qassem on Saturday panned the U.S.-backed framework for peace and security between Israel and Lebanon, calling the deal a surrender to Israel, according to a report from Reuters.

Qassem issued a statement describing the agreement as “null and void” and criticized provisions tying Israel’s withdrawal in southern Lebanon to the disarmament of Hezbollah, claiming it supports Israel’s military presence and crosses “all red lines,” Reuters reported.

"We did not leave the battlefield in the most difficult circumstances, and we will not leave it,” Qassem reportedly added.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Friday that Hezbollah, “Iran’s most dangerous proxy, has repeatedly dragged Lebanon into devastating wars against the will of its government and people, most recently this March” following the launch of Operation Epic Fury.

“It has built a vast military infrastructure inside Lebanon, fired tens of thousands of rockets and drones at Israeli cities, and played a key role in the devastation of Syria,” Rubio said about the terrorist group. “Hezbollah also plots attacks against Americans, supports drug trafficking networks that fuel violence in our hemisphere and inside the United States, and directly threatens American citizens and interests around the world.”

Rubio added that the “governments of Israel and Lebanon made a bold decision to agree to a framework that builds a realistic path out of endless conflict” and that “this agreement establishes a clear and structured process to restore Lebanon’s sovereignty, disarm Hezbollah and dismantle its terrorist infrastructure, and enable Israel to return to its borders once that threat to its citizens is removed.”
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1913 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 10:59 am »
Interesting info from Brittanica --

Having been slapped for sourcing an Encyclopedia, she comes for another taste of the hand.  *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1914 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 11:02 am »
Hezbollah terrorists at the order of the IRGC reject US-brokered Lebanon security deal, refuses 'surrender' to Israel: report

There, fixed it.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1915 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 11:12 am »

We’re negotiating with national governments while confronting transnational religious movements that operate beyond the reach and authority of any single state.

Yup, and members of Hezbollah are members of Parliament with veto power in the Cabinet.

It's stunning how little is understood about today's Middle East.


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« Reply #1916 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 11:31 am »
Interesting that you intentionally ignore the fact that Hezbollah is an IRGC front organization.  Not only that, but it is now actively recruiting in Iran.

I ignored nothing @Hoodat.  I copied and posted the information as published and provided links.

I posted information on Hezbollah in response to this ⬇️ glaring ignorance of the complexities of Lebanese governance and civilian loyalties.

What possible sovereignty does Hezbollah have?  Lebanon isn't their country.  They are invaders.


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AI Overview

 Hezbollah never fully executed a military or legislative coup, but rather built a "state within a state". They gradually secured immense control through a combination of political integration, military supremacy, and a vast social welfare network.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          ⬇️⬇️⬇️
Militant Origins and State Weakness: Hezbollah emerged during the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon. Backed and trained by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), they established themselves as the primary Shiite resistance force against Israeli occupation.

                                                                                                                                                          ⬇️⬇️⬇️
Political Integration:  After the Israeli withdrawal in 2000:  Hezbollah officially entered mainstream Lebanese electoral politics in 1992, eventually securing parliamentary representation and cabinet positions in 2005.

The 2008 Power Play: When the Lebanese government attempted to dismantle Hezbollah's private telecommunications network in May 2008, Hezbollah mobilized its armed wing to quickly seize control of several areas of Beirut. This forced a government summit in Qatar that granted Hezbollah and its allies veto power in the cabinet.

Social and Institutional Influence: Hezbollah effectively governs the Shiite-majority areas of Lebanon, including southern Lebanon, the Bekaa Valley, and the southern suburbs of Beirut. They maintain a broad network of infrastructure, healthcare facilities, schools, and youth programs, which builds deep, loyal support within their constituent communities.

Because they hold veto power over political decisions and operate an independent military force, Hezbollah functions as the ultimate decision-maker in Lebanon's governance.  Read more about their complex political evolution on the Council on Foreign Relations and Britannica profiles.

More information here:  https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hezbollah


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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #5
« Reply #1917 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 11:36 am »
There, fixed it.

Shiites, using national borders as offensive weapons.
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« Reply #1918 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 11:38 am »
I wonder how the Hezbollah drug dealers that live in the Bekaa Valley are doing?
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« Reply #1919 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 11:52 am »
I wonder how the Hezbollah drug dealers that live in the Bekaa Valley are doing?

They're probably still sorting out that big pile of weapons Saddam sent them before Gulf War II....
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« Reply #1920 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 12:31 pm »
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Hezbollah Leader Naim Qassem:

“The framework in Washington is a humiliation, a disgrace, and a surrender of sovereignty. This agreement is non-existent, and we must enforce the provisions of the Iran-US Memorandum of Understanding. We will follow up with all necessary means and international and Arab pressures to compel the Israeli enemy to comply with the first clause of the Memorandum of Understanding and withdraw from Lebanon.”

“We say to the Lebanese authority: It is time for you to retract your sins that are destroying Lebanon; this is a virtue that will be recorded for you after your sins. We are ready to cooperate and stand together for the sovereignty of Lebanon, the liberation of its land, the expulsion of the Israeli occupier, the return of prisoners, the return of residents, reconstruction, rebuilding the country, and agreeing on a national security strategy.”

“The ceasefire would not have happened without the great sacrifices of the resistance fighters, their families, and the Lebanese people. We will uphold the trust of the martyrs, the wounded, and the prisoners, and the sacrifices of the people of the land, the Lebanese Army, and all the bodies and entities that provided martyrs and the wounded. We will continue as a resistance on the field to liberate the occupation. We did not leave the field in the most difficult circumstances, and we will not leave it; this is the good and the salvation.”

“Allah says: "Set out, light and heavy, and strive with your properties and your persons in the cause of Allah. That is better for you, if you but knew."

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This ⬆️. is basically telling the Lebanese Christians they must choose between accommodating the terrorists in their midst vs Israeli occupation.


Sorry @massadvj (really)  --- but, I've got to ask:  If Hezbollah is fighting the Israeli invasion/occupation, why would Lebanese Christians consider them terrorists?  What am I missing? 

Thanks.

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« Reply #1921 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 12:31 pm »
Yup, and members of Hezbollah are members of Parliament with veto power in the Cabinet.

It's stunning how little is understood about today's Middle East.

You mean the same Hezbollah that did THIS?



And THIS...



And THIS...


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If Hezbollah is fighting the Israeli invasion/occupation, why would Lebanese Christians consider them terrorists?  What am I missing?

Thanks.

That Hezbollah is known to attack and slaughter Christians?
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« Reply #1922 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 12:36 pm »

Sorry @massadvj (really)  --- but, I've got to ask:  If Hezbollah is fighting the Israeli invasion/occupation, why would Lebanese Christians consider them terrorists?  What am I missing? 

Thanks.

Hezbollah is a Muslim terrorist organization in Lebanon. The Christians have been paying them off for years. There is no love lost between the Christians and Muslims in Lebanon.

Basically, the Lebanese and the Israelis have used different approaches when it comes to Islamic piracy. The Lebanese pay them off, and the Israelis fight them. Neither approach has been very effective over the long term.
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« Reply #1923 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 12:45 pm »
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« Reply #1924 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 12:56 pm »
Hezbollah is a Muslim terrorist organization in Lebanon. The Christians have been paying them off for years. There is no love lost between the Christians and Muslims in Lebanon.

To be specific, Hezbollah is a Shiite militant group, and Iran’s leadership is also rooted in Shiite Islam.

Most of the well-known jihadist groups are Sunni (ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Taliban). Shiite-linked militant groups do exist, but they’re fewer in number and tend to be more tied to specific countries or aligned with state networks.

In practice, people hear far more about Sunni extremist groups because they’ve been more globally active. Shiite militant groups are still present, but they’re more regionally concentrated and often connected to Iran’s broader strategic network.
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« Reply #1925 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 12:57 pm »
Hezbollah is a Muslim terrorist organization in Lebanon. The Christians have been paying them off for years. There is no love lost between the Christians and Muslims in Lebanon.

Basically, the Lebanese and the Israelis have used different approaches when it comes to Islamic piracy. The Lebanese pay them off, and the Israelis fight them. Neither approach has been very effective over the long term.

What a damn mess.  I'm still trying to wrap my head around Hezbollah members being members of the Lebanese Parliament for the past 21 years and having veto power in the Lebanese Cabinet.  I wonder if anyone knows how to --- or wants to ---- unravel this?

Anyway, thank you for your reply.  Glad your ancestors found a way out.  happy77

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« Reply #1926 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 12:59 pm »
Wow, the jew-hatred from a certain member is palpable here.  That member would almost certainly feel more at home on DU, or any other purveyor of mindless hate.

Fascinating.....where do you see hate?

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« Reply #1927 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 01:02 pm »
I agree this is divergent behavior, and came as a surprise; now we will see if this "new" 47 holds or reverts to form. Hoping it holds, not holding breath.
Congress waved the war powers act at him and the clock ran out.

Now he has an MOU (not quite a treaty, but as "cease fire".

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« Reply #1928 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 01:21 pm »
To be specific, Hezbollah is a Shiite militant group, and Iran’s leadership is also rooted in Shiite Islam.

Most of the well-known jihadist groups are Sunni (ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Taliban). Shiite-linked militant groups do exist, but they’re fewer in number and tend to be more tied to specific countries or aligned with state networks.

In practice, people hear far more about Sunni extremist groups because they’ve been more globally active. Shiite militant groups are still present, but they’re more regionally concentrated and often connected to Iran’s broader strategic network.

A Sunni extremist group runs the national government of Syria. That is another whole can of worms, and one more reason to avoid the region.

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« Reply #1929 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 01:37 pm »
A Sunni extremist group runs the national government of Syria. That is another whole can of worms, and one more reason to avoid the region.

Sunni and Shiite freely work together at achieving conquest after which the Shiites (try to) kill all the Sunni.
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« Reply #1930 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 01:47 pm »
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Saturday that Israel will send a delegation to Washington to present its security concerns over any long-term U.S.-Iran nuclear agreement, according to the Times of Israel.

“We said from the outset that we were not a party to the agreement between the United States and Iran. But that does not mean we do not have interests,” Netanyahu said during a press conference.

Netanyahu said the delegation would seek to clarify Israel’s position on the nuclear provisions under discussion, while reiterating that Israel will maintain its security zone in southern Lebanon. He also said Secretary of State Marco Rubio has backed the concept of the buffer zone as a means of preventing attacks by Iran and Hezbollah.

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« Reply #1931 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 02:10 pm »
I ignored nothing @Hoodat.  I copied and posted the information as published and provided links.

I posted information on Hezbollah in response to this ⬇️ glaring ignorance of the complexities of Lebanese governance and civilian loyalties.

More information here:  https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hezbollah

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Oh, and none of that takes away from the FACT that Hezbollah is a full subsidiary of the IRGC.
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« Reply #1933 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 02:36 pm »
Oh, and none of that takes away from the FACT that Hezbollah is a full subsidiary of the IRGC.

And, to Hezbollah there is no ceasefire.  They never stopped shooting missiles into Israel.  Apparently Israel is supposed to sit still while Hezbollah keeps shooting.  Israel, for their part, says "No dice!"

If Trump thinks Israel is just going to take it, he's being stupid.  I don't think he is, so there's plenty of wink wink, nod nodding going on.  Meanwhile, I think there will be more bombing tonight or tomorrow...Iran needs to pay for resuming its attacks on shipping!
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« Reply #1937 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 03:05 pm »
Let's not forget that it was Hezbollah that assassinated Lebanese Prime Minister Rafic Hariri in 2005.



Hezbollah terrorist behind Hariri murder killed in Israeli strike

Salim Jamil Ayyashm was reportedly killed near al-Qusayr in the Homs region • The head of Hezbollah’s “Golan file” was said to have been killed in an Israeli strike in Damascus.

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A Hezbollah commander convicted for the 2005 murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafic Hariri was killed in a recent Israeli airstrike in Syria, Arab media reported on Sunday.
Salim Jamil Ayyashm, a senior member of the Iranian terror proxy’s assassinations unit (Unit 121), was reportedly eliminated near the Syrian city of al-Qusayr in the Homs region.

In 2020, he was sentenced in absentia to five life sentences by the U.N.-backed Special Tribunal for Lebanon for his role in the assassination of Hariri, who was killed along with 21 others by a car bomb in Beirut on Feb. 14, 2005.

The U.S. State Department had offered a $10 million reward for information on his whereabouts.

On Sunday, Al-Arabiya reported that the head of Hezbollah’s “Golan file” had been killed in an Israeli strike in Damascus earlier in the day.

Ali Daqduq, known as Abu Hussein, held various operational roles with Hezbollah since 1983.  .  .

https://www.jns.org/israel-news/hezbollah-terrorist-behind-hariri-murder-killed-in-israeli-strike



So tell me, @Right_in_Virginia .  How do you reconcile your argument that Hezbollah has sovereignty as an integral part of the Lebanese government considering that they assassinated the Prime Minister along with 22 other innocent bystanders?
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« Reply #1942 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 04:25 pm »
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Three IRGC Members Killed in Clashes Near Baneh

Several armed clashes took place around the city of Baneh (Bane), where media outlets close to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) reported that at least three IRGC members were killed and five others were wounded.

According to local witnesses, one of the main clashes happened at the Baneh checkpoint on the Saqqez (Seqz) road, where gunfire continued for about 30 minutes.

The clashes come amid growing tensions in the area in recent days. Although some media reports linked the incidents to Kurdish opposition groups, no party or armed group has claimed responsibility or made any statement about the attacks so far.

The fighting took place only days after the Eastern Kurdistan Defense Units (YRK) announced that the IRGC had carried out a drone attack near Baneh and warned that any similar attack in the future would receive a response.



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« Reply #1943 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 04:28 pm »
On April 5, 2026, President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social: “Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day… Open the bleep’ Strait… or you’ll be living in Hell.”

The statement threatens attacks on infrastructure if access through the Strait of Hormuz is not restored. From a law of armed conflict perspective, the post matters because it frames potential targets in categorical terms. It does not identify specific military uses or operational objectives. That distinction becomes central when evaluating legality under the framework that actually binds the United States.

https://www.military.com/feature/2026/04/05/bridge-day-and-law-of-armed-conflict-us-obligations-and-limits-of-infrastructure-targeting.html

Trump threatens to seize Kharg Island and other Iran oil infrastructure
Published Thu, Jun 11 2026
  • President Donald Trump said the U.S. military will attack Iran “VERY HARD TONIGHT.”
  • The U.S. will soon take over the country’s “oil infrastructure points” and its oil and gas markets, Trump said in a Truth Social post.
  • Trump compared the forthcoming action to the U.S. operations in Venezuela, “which is working out brilliantly for both Venezuela and the United States of America,” he wrote.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/11/trump-says-us-will-seize-kharg-island-and-other-oil-infrastructure-points.html

Reckless 'bullshit' statements like this is why we are where we are today. Trump threatened Iran with annihilations several times, and then always TACOed out at the last minute. No one can 'bluff' Iran over and over and over and then never do anything. That only makes them mad and it makes them stronger. If you say it, then you better goddam do it. Or Iran will lose all respect for you. Today, Iran does not believe a single word Trump says anymore.
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« Reply #1944 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 05:34 pm »
On April 5, 2026, President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social: “Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day… Open the bleep’ Strait… or you’ll be living in Hell.”

The statement threatens attacks on infrastructure if access through the Strait of Hormuz is not restored. From a law of armed conflict perspective, the post matters because it frames potential targets in categorical terms. It does not identify specific military uses or operational objectives. That distinction becomes central when evaluating legality under the framework that actually binds the United States.

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Trump threatens to seize Kharg Island and other Iran oil infrastructure
Published Thu, Jun 11 2026
  • President Donald Trump said the U.S. military will attack Iran “VERY HARD TONIGHT.”
  • The U.S. will soon take over the country’s “oil infrastructure points” and its oil and gas markets, Trump said in a Truth Social post.
  • Trump compared the forthcoming action to the U.S. operations in Venezuela, “which is working out brilliantly for both Venezuela and the United States of America,” he wrote.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/11/trump-says-us-will-seize-kharg-island-and-other-oil-infrastructure-points.html

Reckless 'bullshit' statements like this is why we are where we are today. Trump threatened Iran with annihilations several times, and then always TACOed out at the last minute. No one can 'bluff' Iran over and over and over and then never do anything. That only makes them mad and it makes them stronger. If you say it, then you better goddam do it. Or Iran will lose all respect for you. Today, Iran does not believe a single word Trump says anymore.
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« Reply #1945 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 05:44 pm »
Breaking News1 hour ago

Trump escalates warning to Iran after newest US strikes: 'They may never learn'


https://twitter.com/RapidResponse47/status/2071010348908347537

President Donald Trump warned Saturday that the United States could escalate military action against Iran after U.S. forces carried out another round of strikes on Iranian targets.

“United States aircraft just struck Iranian missile and drone storage locations, and coastal radar sites, for violating the Cease Fire Agreement, AGAIN!” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

“There may come a point when we are no longer able to be reasonable, and will be forced to militarily complete the job that we very successfully started,” he added. “If that happens, the Islamic Republic of Iran will no longer exist!”
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« Reply #1946 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 05:48 pm »

https://twitter.com/IranIntl_En/status/2071031491048477136

Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) claimed it carried out a joint missile and drone operation targeting U.S. military sites in Kuwait and Bahrain, according to Iran International, which cited Iranian media.

The IRGC said the strikes were in response to what it called U.S. attacks on Iranian coastal positions and warned that any further violations would receive a “crushing response,” according to Iran International.

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« Reply #1947 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 05:55 pm »
On April 5, 2026, President Donald Trump posted on Truth Social: “Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day… Open the bleep’ Strait… or you’ll be living in Hell.”

The statement threatens attacks on infrastructure if access through the Strait of Hormuz is not restored. From a law of armed conflict perspective, the post matters because it frames potential targets in categorical terms. It does not identify specific military uses or operational objectives. That distinction becomes central when evaluating legality under the framework that actually binds the United States.

https://www.military.com/feature/2026/04/05/bridge-day-and-law-of-armed-conflict-us-obligations-and-limits-of-infrastructure-targeting.html

Trump threatens to seize Kharg Island and other Iran oil infrastructure
Published Thu, Jun 11 2026
  • President Donald Trump said the U.S. military will attack Iran “VERY HARD TONIGHT.”
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  • Trump compared the forthcoming action to the U.S. operations in Venezuela, “which is working out brilliantly for both Venezuela and the United States of America,” he wrote.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/11/trump-says-us-will-seize-kharg-island-and-other-oil-infrastructure-points.html

Reckless 'bullshit' statements like this is why we are where we are today. Trump threatened Iran with annihilations several times, and then always TACOed out at the last minute. No one can 'bluff' Iran over and over and over and then never do anything. That only makes them mad and it makes them stronger. If you say it, then you better goddam do it. Or Iran will lose all respect for you. Today, Iran does not believe a single word Trump says anymore.

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« Reply #1948 on: Saturday, Jun 27, 2026 06:11 pm »

Ancient.   Anything new, or do you have to reach back months to bash Trump?
The "months old" is the most important part @Idiot .
I am giving a timeline of months old threats with no substantial action.
You can't bluff anyone for months and months and still expect them to respect you.
I am also demonstrating how long ago these idle threats (bluffs and lies) have been happening.
How long ago all of this could have been resolved.

Trump promises ‘help is on its way’ and tells Iranians to ‘keep protesting’
This article is more than 5 months old

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10 June 2026

The U.S. military has launched a fresh wave of attacks on Iran after Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth promised the country’s forces would be “busy tonight.”

“U.S. Central Command forces began launching additional self-defense strikes today at 5:15 p.m. ET against multiple targets in Iran at the Commander in Chief’s direction. The strikes are in response to Iran’s unwarranted and continued aggression,” CENTCOM’s X account stated on Wednesday evening.

Earlier, Trumpsaid that the U.S. is going to attack Iran “very hard” unless a peace deal is finalized.

“We'll see what happens, but we hit them hard yesterday, and we're going to hit them again hard today”, Trump told reporters at the White House.

After urging de-escalation between Israel and Iran earlier in the week, Trump vowed to press on “attacking [Iran] very hard,” citing the downing of a U.S. Apache helicopter in the Strait of Hormuz.

(more)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/13/trump-promises-iran-help-tells-iranians-keep-protesting

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-us-war-live-trump-helicopter-bahrain-kuwait-news-b2992891.html
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« Reply #1949 on: Sunday, Jun 28, 2026 03:57 am »

http://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/2070993920327332069

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I asked a senior defense official why the US has had to go back and restrike these sites that have been hit multiple times since February 28 when the war began. I was told Iran has reconstituted its air defense and missile systems along the Strait of Hormuz since the US bombing campaign ended on April 7.

That, the source said, is why the US military is now having to restrike areas like Qeshm Island and Sirik which they had struck in the past.

“In the time since the cease fire on 7 April, Iran has reconstituted — thus the targets around the Strait of Hormuz,” a senior US defense official tells me. “There is a LOT that is damaged… a LOT… but they moved things around.”

It’s been 10 weeks since the April ceasefire was announced.
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