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NATO Meeting: US Forces, Jets, Warships, Every Submarine to Leave Europe
By M Dowling -May 27, 20263 Comments

As reported by Der Spiegel, European allies were briefed in Brussels on a planned reduction in US forces assigned to NATO’s rapid-response capabilities. A military envoy sent by Pete Hegseth surprised senior NATO officials in a classified briefing in Brussels late last week after revealing US firepower committed to defending Europe would significantly decline. The purpose is to force Europe to build up domestic defenses.

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President Trump will slash U.S. fighter jets, warships, and submarines. They are currently supplied for the use of NATO allies should a military crisis erupt in Europe. The U.S. has briefed European allies that it will reduce its deep-strike capabilities in Europe by 50%. There will be major reductions in forces.

US envoy Alexander Velez-Green reportedly said fighter jets will be slashed by a third. All destroyers will be withdrawn. All submarines, every one of them, will be pulled.

Europe will be left to provide and maintain its own supply of reconnaissance drones, a weapon that has proven itself decisive on the Ukraine battlefields.

https://www.independentsentinel.com/nato-meeting-us-forces-jets-warships-every-submarine-to-leave-europe/
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The life expectancy of the EU isn't worth used toilet paper now. :thud:
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The life expectancy of the EU isn't worth used toilet paper now. :thud:
Well, at least the Russians don't have many tanks to throw at them, so maybe the EU feels safe.
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We need all those assets for when we go to war with China.

EU. Achtung Baby.  Your biggest threat is already on your doorstep.  The Muzzie hoards.
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We need all those assets for when we go to war with China.

EU. Achtung Baby.  Your biggest threat is already on your doorstep.  The Muzzie hoards.

Detroit, Minneapolis, NYC, TexAM ... etc 
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This is a timely gift for Putin. He's just about to lose his stupid war when Trump throws him a rope.  :thumbsdown:
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Things have changed since Cold War days. The Soviet Union came apart of the seams, the Warsaw Pact is no more, and Ukraine has emasculated Putin's military.

With EuroLanders flipping off Trump, because Trump, Trump is giving EuroLanders the "independence" from the US they tantrummed for. If the state of the RAF is anything like the state of the RN rrthree , Brit folk should be glad of their distance from any potential threat.
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Things have changed since Cold War days. The Soviet Union came apart of the seams, the Warsaw Pact is no more, and Ukraine has emasculated Putin's military.

With EuroLanders flipping off Trump, because Trump, Trump is giving EuroLanders the "independence" from the US they tantrummed for. If the state of the RAF is anything like the state of the RN rrthree , Brit folk should be glad of their distance from any potential threat.

A few hundred active threats land on UK beaches every single day and their treasonous PM Starmer is complicit in the invasion.
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This is a timely gift for Putin. He's just about to lose his stupid war when Trump throws him a rope.  :thumbsdown:

47's most favorite thing: snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Lifeline to Iran, lifeline to best bro, Putin. 47 loves deals and dictators!
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Detroit, Minneapolis, NYC, TexAM ... etc
I agree....I've also thought of Texas A&M as a threat as well.  :laugh:

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IKR? How does removing US forces from places like Germany or the UK or ?? - ignoring that some might be moved to Poland - in the least benefit Putin?
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I agree....I've also thought of Texas A&M as a threat as well.  :laugh:

TexAM is not Texas A&M. TexAM was given a cease and desist order for the similar name
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TexAM is not Texas A&M. TexAM was given a cease and desist order for the similar name
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No sarcasm. Fact. TexAM is a muslim-only college in Texas, part of the greater effort by the Muslim Brotherhood to make Texas and the US fully muslim.
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No sarcasm. Fact. TexAM is a muslim-only college in Texas, part of the greater effort by the Muslim Brotherhood to make Texas and the US fully muslim.
You completely missed it, as other poster used sarcasm
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You completely missed it, as other poster used sarcasm

Well, I appreciated the clarification....
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"The purpose is to force Europe to build up domestic defenses."

The UK has already fallen with France not far behind.  Even if they were to build up domestic defenses they need to start deportations, otherwise, the build up isn't going to work.
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"The purpose is to force Europe to build up domestic defenses."

The UK has already fallen with France not far behind.  Even if they were to build up domestic defenses they need to start deportations, otherwise, the build up isn't going to work.
Once the Muslims control the continent, it will really turn into a shithole.

The new owners will find out Europe will be more of a Gaza experience without any resources, unlike the mountains of oil in the ME countries that support their way of life.

After stripping Europe of all its wealth,  they will regret taking it.
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Once the Muslims control the continent, it will really turn into a shithole.

The new owners will find out Europe will be more of a Gaza experience without any resources, unlike the mountains of oil in the ME countries that support their way of life.

After stripping Europe of all its wealth,  they will regret taking it.

Yet more reason to separate ourselves from the fools across the pond....
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Once the Muslims control the continent, it will really turn into a shithole.

The new owners will find out Europe will be more of a Gaza experience without any resources, unlike the mountains of oil in the ME countries that support their way of life.

After stripping Europe of all its wealth,  they will regret taking it.

Regret taking it? They didn't last time they took Europe. They will destroy places and things like the Louvre. What is not on the koran must be destroyed, if it contradicts the koran, it must be destroyed. There is only Islam; there are no varieties.
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Regret taking it? They didn't last time they took Europe. They will destroy places and things like the Louvre. What is not on the koran must be destroyed, if it contradicts the koran, it must be destroyed. There is only Islam; there are no varieties.
Every painting, statue, stained glass window, anything which is an image of a human will go. No doubt that would include illuminated texts going back to the early Middle Ages. Essentially, the destruction of all that western culture has produced.
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Every painting, statue, stained glass window, anything which is an image of a human will go. No doubt that would include illuminated texts going back to the early Middle Ages. Essentially, the destruction of all that western culture has produced.

It'll make the destruction of the Buddha statues in Afghanistan look like a bad case of litterbugs.
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Regret taking it? They didn't last time they took Europe. They will destroy places and things like the Louvre. What is not on the koran must be destroyed, if it contradicts the koran, it must be destroyed. There is only Islam; there are no varieties.
The last time they took Europe?

That is a new one on me.

Other than most of Spain/Portugal and a few places in SE Eastern Europe, I cannot recall a takeover of the bulk of Europe.

Please educate us.

The regret by them will be no resources to speak of exist on that continent other than many Europeans to enslave.  While satisfying to them for enjoyment, there is no wealth of resources like exist in the ME.
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The last time they took Europe?

That is a new one on me.

Other than most of Spain/Portugal and a few places in SE Eastern Europe, I cannot recall a takeover of the bulk of Europe.

Please educate us.

The regret by them will be no resources to speak of exist on that continent other than many Europeans to enslave.  While satisfying to them for enjoyment, there is no wealth of resources like exist in the ME.
The invasion made it to Southwest France. (Charles Martel: Battle of Tours). Today, it is far more extensive, all the way to Scandinavia and Great Britain, with few exceptions.
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Every painting, statue, stained glass window, anything which is an image of a human will go. No doubt that would include illuminated texts going back to the early Middle Ages. Essentially, the destruction of all that western culture has produced.

And all the medieval cathedrals as well - only to remain standing if they could be turned into mosques. And the entire contents of all libraries.
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The invasion made it to Southwest France. (Charles Martel: Battle of Tours). Today, it is far more extensive, all the way to Scandinavia and Great Britain, with few exceptions.
They certainly 'took' Spain and Portugal, SE Europe and for awhile Sicily.  And they fought many battles against the
Europeans, but did not 'take' the other countries.

And the infiltration of Muslims throughout Europe today is not 'taking' counties, any more than Muslims have 'taken' the US, although that could certainly happen if Westerners do not wise up.
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Yet more reason to separate ourselves from the fools across the pond....

I'm really hoping that as we watch the fools across the pond that legislation is enacted to ensure that the 'foolishness' doesn't happen here.

We're already behind the eight ball with NY, MN and MI having a huge Muslim 'influence' in their cities. 
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This is a timely gift for Putin. He's just about to lose his stupid war when Trump throws him a rope.  :thumbsdown:

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They certainly 'took' Spain and Portugal, SE Europe and for awhile Sicily.  And they fought many battles against the
Europeans, but did not 'take' the other countries.

And the infiltration of Muslims throughout Europe today is not 'taking' counties, any more than Muslims have 'taken' the US, although that could certainly happen if Westerners do not wise up.

Every country that is Muslim dominated today was invaded or colonized by the Muslims and then taken away from the previous inhabitants, their culture, their language, and their faith.

Islam is a parasitic disease that infects a host and kills everything that isn't of the parasite.
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Every country that is Muslim dominated today was invaded or colonized by the Muslims and then taken away from the previous inhabitants, their culture, their language, and their faith.

Islam is a parasitic disease that infects a host and kills everything that isn't of the parasite.
It is true Islam is a disease that needs to be wiped out.

I was challenging the statement that Muslims conquered the European continent.
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This is a timely gift for Putin. He's just about to lose his stupid war when Trump throws him a rope.  :thumbsdown:

As he did for the Mullahs and the IRGC. 47 seems to be deferring to dictators and thugs, just when they are weakest, while showing off how powerful he could be, if he where actually serious.
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Every country that is Muslim dominated today was invaded or colonized by the Muslims and then taken away from the previous inhabitants, their culture, their language, and their faith.

Islam is a parasitic disease that infects a host and kills everything that isn't of the parasite.

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It is true Islam is a disease that needs to be wiped out.

I was challenging the statement that Muslims conquered the European continent.

I never said the Musselmen "conquered the European continent" - you read something into what I wrote, and then made it something else altogether - usually called a strawman argument.
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I never said the Musselmen "conquered the European continent" - you read something into what I wrote, and then made it something else altogether - usually called a strawman argument.
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Regret taking it? They didn't last time they took Europe. They will destroy places and things like the Louvre. What is not on the koran must be destroyed, if it contradicts the koran, it must be destroyed. There is only Islam; there are no varieties.
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Does taking Europe mean taking ALL of Europe to you [ every last country? ]? They took the most important countries at the time, so for all intents and purposes those countries represented Europe AT THE TIME.

Just stop trolling me please.
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Does taking Europe mean taking ALL of Europe to you [ every last country? ]? They took the most important countries at the time, so for all intents and purposes those countries represented Europe AT THE TIME.

Just stop trolling me please.

I don't think he's trolling you, he's just a stickler for details.  A notable size of the European population at that time were not being invaded by the Muslim hordes, YET.  If unchecked they would have been in the same boat as Western Europe, so your point is well taken.

Not everybody who criticizes one of your arguments is "trolling you."
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I don't think he's trolling you, he's just a stickler for details.  A notable size of the European population at that time were not being invaded by the Muslim hordes, YET.  If unchecked they would have been in the same boat as Western Europe, so your point is well taken.

This was clear to the Polish Winged Hussars and Jan Sobieski. Anyone not familiar with these names should go look them up right now before commenting any further in this topic.
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Does taking Europe mean taking ALL of Europe to you [ every last country? ]? They took the most important countries at the time, so for all intents and purposes those countries represented Europe AT THE TIME.

Just stop trolling me please.
It would be the same as saying Spain took North America.  They did not, just parts of North America were taken.

Your point was valid if you had pointed out that some European countries were taken over.
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This was clear to the Polish Winged Hussars and Jan Sobieski. Anyone not familiar with these names should go look them up right now before commenting any further in this topic.

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On your advice, I looked them up!  They, too took on the Ottomans, among other enemies of that era.
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On your advice, I looked them up!  They, too took on the Ottomans, among other enemies of that era.

Good! My point was that here was a Polish king and a Polish army that went hundreds of miles from their home to help out a neighboring country fight off Moslem invaders. They recognized the threat for what it was.
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Good! My point was that here was a Polish king and a Polish army that went hundreds of miles from their home to help out a neighboring country fight off Moslem invaders. They recognized the threat for what it was.

The Polish Hussars are a most interesting read!  If they had thought about it, they would would have hoisted the carcasses of the Muslims on pikes like Vlad Dracula. Vlad had extra motivation because the Muslim hordes were pretty hard on Vlad's inninnocent civilians.
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The Polish Hussars are a most interesting read!  If they had thought about it, they would would have hoisted the carcasses of the Muslims on pikes like Vlad Dracula. Vlad had extra motivation because the Muslim hordes were pretty hard on Vlad's inninnocent civilians.

The Moslems/Muslims are always a pestilence upon the innocent. Always.
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