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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #850 on: May 08, 2026, 05:45:42 pm »
Massive Oil Slick Spotted Off Iran's Kharg Island, Cause Unknown

An apparent large oil spill spanning dozens of square miles of sea has been spotted off of Iran's main oil hub of Kharg Island, according to open source satellite imagery and reporting in both the NY Times and Reuters on Friday.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-oil-slick-spotted-irans-kharg-island-cause-unknown

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #851 on: May 08, 2026, 06:03:41 pm »
Trump blockade squeezing Iran so hard regime may be dumping oil into Gulf, experts say
Satellite images show a 45-square-kilometer slick near Kharg Island as Iran's export system buckles under U.S. pressure
By Efrat Lachter Fox News
Published May 8, 2026 3:42pm EDT

Satellite imagery revealed a massive suspected oil slick spreading near Kharg Island, Iran’s main oil export terminal, in what experts say could be evidence that Tehran’s oil infrastructure is buckling under mounting U.S. pressure.

The slick, seen in Copernicus Sentinel satellite images between Wednesday and Friday, covered roughly 45 square kilometers west of the island, according to analysts cited by Reuters.

The incident is emerging as a potential sign that Trump’s maritime pressure campaign is achieving one of its central objectives: overwhelming Iran’s export system to the point where Tehran can no longer move or store crude fast enough to sustain normal production.

The suspected spill near Iran’s main oil hub is raising concerns that mounting U.S. pressure is overwhelming Tehran’s ability to store or export crude, potentially forcing risky workarounds with environmental consequences in the Gulf.


The slick, seen in Copernicus Sentinel satellite images between Wednesday and Friday, covered roughly 45 square kilometers west of the island, according to analysts cited by Reuters. (Reuters)

"At this stage I see two plausible explanations, and they’re not mutually exclusive," Miad Maleki, an Iran sanctions and energy expert at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, told Fox News Digital.

"One is operational: they simply didn’t ramp down extraction fast enough relative to their true onshore capacity and over-counted on empty tankers slipping through the blockade," he said.

"Now they’ve effectively over-delivered crude into the export system, with more oil at or near the terminals than they can actually load, and the ‘solution’ is to push some of that excess into the water."

Maleki said another possible explanation is mechanical failure tied to Iran’s use of aging tankers as floating storage or sanctions-busting carriers.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #859 on: May 08, 2026, 10:08:47 pm »
So the spill is how the Iranians intend to bring the blockade down....
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #860 on: May 08, 2026, 10:43:15 pm »
So the spill is how the Iranians intend to bring the blockade down....
Not if we light it up...lol.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #861 on: May 08, 2026, 11:02:39 pm »
Not if we light it up...lol.
:beer: I thought of that, too.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #862 on: May 08, 2026, 11:59:43 pm »
Intentional dumping and discharging of oil?

Where are all the envirowhackos and groups who should be screaming bloody murder toward the Mullah's?

Yep...  Envirowhacko green scam was all along about left wing ideology......   nothing more.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #863 on: May 09, 2026, 12:14:22 am »
Intentional dumping and discharging of oil?

Where are all the envirowhackos and groups who should be screaming bloody murder toward the Mullah's?

Yep...  Envirowhacko green scam was all along about left wing ideology......   nothing more.
Maybe they can get their donations to spike, but cheap oil means people burn more...and in their belief system, that's bad.

Disasters can be used to get donations; it isn't about the environment for any save the true believers. The rest want to live in the splendor they feel they ought to be accustomed. (kinda like BLM)

High prices make even failed alternatives more attractive, and that's right in their lane.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #864 on: May 09, 2026, 09:00:10 am »
Iran still looking over US peace proposal, says deadlines ‘mean nothing’: report

Iranian foreign ministry spokesman Esmaeil Baghaei said Tehran is still reviewing a peace offer from the U.S. regarding an end to the war and that it would send a response “at the appropriate time,” a report said.

The comments from Baghaei come after Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Friday that the U.S. was expecting a response from Iran today. 

"We should know something today. I mean, we're expecting a response from them,” Rubio said. “We'll see what the response entails. And the hope is that something that it can put us into a serious process of negotiation.”

However, Baghaei said Tehran would not respond to “deadlines or ultimatums” and that they “mean nothing” to Iran, according to the Middle East Eye.

President Donald Trump also said Friday the U.S. will “find out soon enough” whether Iran is deliberately “slow rolling” its response to the American proposal as tensions remain high following clashes in the Strait of Hormuz.

Yesterday's Fox News Digital liveblog has additional coverage of the Iran conflict.

Fox News Digital's Jasmine Baehr contributed to this report.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #866 on: May 09, 2026, 09:16:15 am »
Intentional dumping and discharging of oil?

Where are all the envirowhackos and groups who should be screaming bloody murder toward the Mullah's?

Yep...  Envirowhacko green scam was all along about left wing ideology......   nothing more.
Since natural seeps count for virtually all the oil that enters the world's oceans, the wackos need to condemn the earth for all that contamination rather than the small amount that man contributes.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #867 on: May 09, 2026, 09:16:29 am »
Excerpt:

Iran just pulled off one of the most self-owning moves of the year — and it’s comedy gold.

On Friday, Iranian state television proudly announced that naval commandos had seized the oil tanker *Ocean Koi* in a “special operation.” They claimed the ship was “violating oil exports” and “disrupting the interests of the Iranian nation.” Tehran said the vessel had been turned over to judicial authorities.

Sounds tough, right?


One good thing, the spill was not caused by us.
It is most likely done on purpose by the Iranians.
Where is the outrage? Where is Greta‼️‼️Had this spill been caused by the USA, the whole world would be up in arms. Where are the European climate change activists?

https://defiantamerica.com/iran-seizes-tanker-only-to-discover-the-cargo-belongs-to-someone-they-really-didnt-want-to-mess-with/

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #868 on: May 09, 2026, 09:22:58 am »
However, Baghaei said Tehran would not respond to “deadlines or ultimatums” and that they “mean nothing” to Iran, according to the Middle East Eye.

Yes they are stalling and 'slow rolling' as it is called. But also, they want to embarrass Trump.

The arrogant tone of that statement does not sound like defeat or surrender. Iran does not believe that they have lost the war. Epic Fury is just a temporary setback in the attitude of Iran.

This statement is intended as a deliberate middle finger in Trump's face, because Iran does not believe that Trump will attack them again. Iran has lost any fear of Trump and they no longer respect him. Because Trump has allowed them to get away with so much for so long with no consequences, Iran feels that time is on their side. Iran's plan is to simply hunker down and wait for Trump to leave. Iran believes that they can 'wait out' Trump. And they care nothing about threats of more attacks because they do not believe Trump will ever actually do it.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #869 on: May 09, 2026, 11:09:08 am »
UK sending 'fearsome' warship to Middle East ahead of possible Strait of Hormuz mission

HMS Dragon sets sail from Portsmouth Harbor on March 10, 2026 in Portsmouth, England. (Leon Neal/Getty Images)

The United Kingdom is deploying its HMS Dragon warship to the Middle East ahead of a possible mission to secure the Strait of Hormuz.

A Ministry of Defense spokesperson told Bloomberg that “The pre-positioning of HMS Dragon is part of prudent planning that will ensure that the UK is ready, as part of a multinational coalition jointly led by the UK and France, to secure the Strait, when conditions allow."

The Royal Navy says the HMS Dragon, a Type 45 air defense destroyer, is "one of the most advanced warships in the world."

"HMS Dragon's main role is air defense: providing protection to her fellow ships by detecting, interrogating and neutralizing enemy threats with the fearsome Sea Viper anti-air missile system," it said on its website.

The office of French President Emmanuel Macron announced Wednesday that the country’s only aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, is also heading toward the southern Red Sea ahead of a possible mission to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, a report said.

The news agency AFP cited Macron’s office as saying that the move is intended to send “a signal that not only are we ready to secure the Strait of Hormuz but that we are also capable of doing so".

Fox News Digital's Robert McGreevy contributed to this report.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #870 on: May 09, 2026, 12:06:26 pm »
However, Baghaei said Tehran would not respond to “deadlines or ultimatums” and that they “mean nothing” to Iran, according to the Middle East Eye.

Yes they are stalling and 'slow rolling' as it is called. But also, they want to embarrass Trump.

The arrogant tone of that statement does not sound like defeat or surrender. Iran does not believe that they have lost the war. Epic Fury is just a temporary setback in the attitude of Iran.

This statement is intended as a deliberate middle finger in Trump's face, because Iran does not believe that Trump will attack them again. Iran has lost any fear of Trump and they no longer respect him. Because Trump has allowed them to get away with so much for so long with no consequences, Iran feels that time is on their side. Iran's plan is to simply hunker down and wait for Trump to leave. Iran believes that they can 'wait out' Trump. And they care nothing about threats of more attacks because they do not believe Trump will ever actually do it.

At this point Iran is taunting Trump to do something though at this point I agree, they believe he will do nothing.  The blockade means nothing to them.

A poster above suggested to light the oil spill on fire -- I tend to agree.  A bold and dangerous move, but I think it would send a clear 'in your face' message.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #871 on: May 09, 2026, 12:09:06 pm »
UK sending 'fearsome' warship to Middle East ahead of possible Strait of Hormuz mission

HMS Dragon sets sail from Portsmouth Harbor on March 10, 2026 in Portsmouth, England. (Leon Neal/Getty Images)

The United Kingdom is deploying its HMS Dragon warship to the Middle East ahead of a possible mission to secure the Strait of Hormuz.

A Ministry of Defense spokesperson told Bloomberg that “The pre-positioning of HMS Dragon is part of prudent planning that will ensure that the UK is ready, as part of a multinational coalition jointly led by the UK and France, to secure the Strait, when conditions allow."

The Royal Navy says the HMS Dragon, a Type 45 air defense destroyer, is "one of the most advanced warships in the world."

"HMS Dragon's main role is air defense: providing protection to her fellow ships by detecting, interrogating and neutralizing enemy threats with the fearsome Sea Viper anti-air missile system," it said on its website.

The office of French President Emmanuel Macron announced Wednesday that the country’s only aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, is also heading toward the southern Red Sea ahead of a possible mission to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, a report said.

The news agency AFP cited Macron’s office as saying that the move is intended to send “a signal that not only are we ready to secure the Strait of Hormuz but that we are also capable of doing so".

Fox News Digital's Robert McGreevy contributed to this report.
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Quite a warship and I am glad to see it!!  As for France; seriously they only have one ship? That indicates that they are incapable of defending themselves.  Not a good position to be in.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #872 on: May 09, 2026, 01:16:44 pm »
Inside the US military playbook to cripple Iran if nuclear talks collapse
A retired Army officer warns both sides start 'at minus 1,000' in trust, making the process extremely fragile
 By Morgan Phillips Fox News
Published May 9, 2026 10:13am EDT

If negotiations with Iran collapse, the U.S. likely is to move quickly to degrade Tehran’s military capabilities — a campaign analysts say would begin with missile systems, naval assets and command networks before escalating to more controversial targets.

Negotiators are still working toward what officials describe as a preliminary framework agreement — effectively a one-page starting point for broader talks centered on Iran’s nuclear program and potential sanctions relief. But deep mistrust on both sides has left the process fragile, raising the stakes if diplomacy fails.

"We’re not starting at zero," retired Army Col. Seth Krummrich, a former Joint Staff planner and current Vice President at Global Guardian, told Fox News Digital. "We’re both starting at minus 1,000 because neither side trusts each other at all. This is going to be a pretty hard process going forward."

That tension was on display Thursday, when a senior U.S. official confirmed American forces struck Iran’s Qeshm port and Bandar Abbas — key locations near the Strait of Hormuz — while insisting the operation did not mark a restart of the war or the end of the ceasefire.

The strike on one of Iran’s oil ports came two days after Iran launched 15 ballistic and cruise missiles at the UAE’s Fujairah Port, drawing anger from Gulf allies. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine said earlier this week the attack did not rise to the level of breaking the ceasefire, describing it as a low-level strike.

President Donald Trump repeatedly has warned that if negotiations collapse, the U.S. could resume bombing Iran — even signaling before the recent ceasefire was implemented that Washington could target the country’s energy infrastructure and key economic assets. But any escalation would likely unfold in phases, beginning with efforts to dismantle Iran’s ability to project force across the region before expanding to more controversial targets.

If talks break down, any renewed conflict would likely become a "contest for escalation control," where Iran seeks to impose costs without provoking regime-threatening retaliation while the U.S. works to strip away Tehran’s remaining leverage, according to retired Air Force Lt. Gen. David Deptula.

"The capabilities that would come into focus are the ones Iran uses to generate coercive leverage: ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, air defense systems, maritime strike assets, command-and-control networks, IRGC infrastructure, proxy support channels, and nuclear-related facilities," he said, referring to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps.

"The military objective would be less about punishment and more about denying Iran the tools it uses to escalate," he said.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #873 on: May 09, 2026, 01:21:39 pm »
UK sending 'fearsome' warship to Middle East ahead of possible Strait of Hormuz mission

HMS Dragon sets sail from Portsmouth Harbor on March 10, 2026 in Portsmouth, England. (Leon Neal/Getty Images)

The United Kingdom is deploying its HMS Dragon warship to the Middle East ahead of a possible mission to secure the Strait of Hormuz.

The Royal Navy says the HMS Dragon, a Type 45 air defense destroyer, is "one of the most advanced warships in the world."


2 months later and the "fearsome" ship is still nowhere to be found ...
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #874 on: May 09, 2026, 01:46:17 pm »
Inside the US military playbook to cripple Iran if nuclear talks collapse
A retired Army officer warns both sides start 'at minus 1,000' in trust, making the process extremely fragile
 By Morgan Phillips Fox News
Published May 9, 2026 10:13am EDT

If negotiations with Iran collapse, the U.S. likely is to move quickly to degrade Tehran’s military capabilities — a campaign analysts say would begin with missile systems, naval assets and command networks before escalating to more controversial targets.

Negotiators are still working toward what officials describe as a preliminary framework agreement — effectively a one-page starting point for broader talks centered on Iran’s nuclear program and potential sanctions relief. But deep mistrust on both sides has left the process fragile, raising the stakes if diplomacy fails.

"We’re not starting at zero," retired Army Col. Seth Krummrich, a former Joint Staff planner and current Vice President at Global Guardian, told Fox News Digital. "We’re both starting at minus 1,000 because neither side trusts each other at all. This is going to be a pretty hard process going forward."

That tension was on display Thursday, when a senior U.S. official confirmed American forces struck Iran’s Qeshm port and Bandar Abbas — key locations near the Strait of Hormuz — while insisting the operation did not mark a restart of the war or the end of the ceasefire.

The strike on one of Iran’s oil ports came two days after Iran launched 15 ballistic and cruise missiles at the UAE’s Fujairah Port, drawing anger from Gulf allies. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine said earlier this week the attack did not rise to the level of breaking the ceasefire, describing it as a low-level strike.

President Donald Trump repeatedly has warned that if negotiations collapse, the U.S. could resume bombing Iran — even signaling before the recent ceasefire was implemented that Washington could target the country’s energy infrastructure and key economic assets. But any escalation would likely unfold in phases, beginning with efforts to dismantle Iran’s ability to project force across the region before expanding to more controversial targets.

If talks break down, any renewed conflict would likely become a "contest for escalation control," where Iran seeks to impose costs without provoking regime-threatening retaliation while the U.S. works to strip away Tehran’s remaining leverage, according to retired Air Force Lt. Gen. David Deptula.

"The capabilities that would come into focus are the ones Iran uses to generate coercive leverage: ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, air defense systems, maritime strike assets, command-and-control networks, IRGC infrastructure, proxy support channels, and nuclear-related facilities," he said, referring to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps.

"The military objective would be less about punishment and more about denying Iran the tools it uses to escalate," he said.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #875 on: May 09, 2026, 01:49:07 pm »
I'm going to count to 3...

And we're on 9...

Not a good look...
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #878 on: May 09, 2026, 03:25:56 pm »
I'm going to count to 3...

And we're on 9...

Not a good look...

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« Reply #879 on: May 09, 2026, 05:45:51 pm »
Not if we light it up...lol.
Nah, throw some birds into it and the Gaia worshippers will run over to clean it all up...that and send over a sh!t load of Dawn.

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« Reply #881 on: May 09, 2026, 05:58:48 pm »
Experts warn Trump administration any Iran deal must close plutonium pathway to nuclear bombs
Expert warns Iran has enough plutonium to produce more than 200 nuclear bombs
By Benjamin Weinthal Fox News
Published May 9, 2026 4:00pm EDT

Nuclear weapons experts are raising the alarm bells over the pressing need for the Trump administration to codify in any new deal a ban on Iran’s attempts to use plutonium from its facilities to build an atomic bomb.

The administration and non-proliferation experts have largely focused on the Islamic Republic’s atomic weapons facilities that use uranium as the material for building nuclear bombs. Tehran could take advantage of this blind spot and covertly build a plutonium-based nuclear weapon.

Jason Brodsky, policy director at United Against Nuclear Iran (UANI), told Fox News Digital: "I do believe any proposed deal with Iran needs to address the plutonium pathway to nuclear weapons. Israel struck the Arak heavy water reactor twice over the last year — in June 2025 and in March 2026. Intelligence suggested Iran had repeatedly attempted to reconstruct the facility even after the bombing, so any deal with Iran should cover the plutonium pathway."



Iran’s regime could use plutonium from spent fuel at its nuclear reactor at Bushehr to build an atomic weapons device, according to Henry Sokolski, the executive director of the Nonproliferation Policy Education Center and former deputy for nonproliferation policy in the Department of Defense (1989–1993).

Writing last month on the website of Real Clear Defense, he noted "Washington should make sure that Iran doesn’t remove Bushehr’s spent fuel and strip out the plutonium. This can and should be done without bombing the plant."

Sokolski wrote the "Pentagon should watch to make sure Iran does not remove any of the spent fuel at Bushehr. It could do this with space surveillance assets or, as it did in 2012, with drones. Second, any ‘peace’ deal President Trump cuts with Tehran should include a requirement that there be near-real-time monitoring of the Bushehr reactor and spent fuel pond, much as the IAEA had in place with Iran’s fuel enrichment activities."

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« Reply #882 on: May 09, 2026, 06:26:22 pm »
Experts warn Trump administration any Iran deal must close plutonium pathway to nuclear bombs
Expert warns Iran has enough plutonium to produce more than 200 nuclear bombs
By Benjamin Weinthal Fox News
Published May 9, 2026 4:00pm EDT

Nuclear weapons experts are raising the alarm bells over the pressing need for the Trump administration to codify in any new deal a ban on Iran’s attempts to use plutonium from its facilities to build an atomic bomb.

The administration and non-proliferation experts have largely focused on the Islamic Republic’s atomic weapons facilities that use uranium as the material for building nuclear bombs. Tehran could take advantage of this blind spot and covertly build a plutonium-based nuclear weapon.

Jason Brodsky, policy director at United Against Nuclear Iran (UANI), told Fox News Digital: "I do believe any proposed deal with Iran needs to address the plutonium pathway to nuclear weapons. Israel struck the Arak heavy water reactor twice over the last year — in June 2025 and in March 2026. Intelligence suggested Iran had repeatedly attempted to reconstruct the facility even after the bombing, so any deal with Iran should cover the plutonium pathway."



Iran’s regime could use plutonium from spent fuel at its nuclear reactor at Bushehr to build an atomic weapons device, according to Henry Sokolski, the executive director of the Nonproliferation Policy Education Center and former deputy for nonproliferation policy in the Department of Defense (1989–1993).

Writing last month on the website of Real Clear Defense, he noted "Washington should make sure that Iran doesn’t remove Bushehr’s spent fuel and strip out the plutonium. This can and should be done without bombing the plant."

Sokolski wrote the "Pentagon should watch to make sure Iran does not remove any of the spent fuel at Bushehr. It could do this with space surveillance assets or, as it did in 2012, with drones. Second, any ‘peace’ deal President Trump cuts with Tehran should include a requirement that there be near-real-time monitoring of the Bushehr reactor and spent fuel pond, much as the IAEA had in place with Iran’s fuel enrichment activities."

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200 Nuclear Bombs!  Let that sink in.  No  wonder Trump is hesitating.  If this information is accurate, then we have to find a way to ensure that Iran does not use them. I think it is safe to assume that they have nukes. It is obvious that Iran cannot be tamed or bullied, they have to be taken out, and the magic question is, how?  Other than Israel, we're going this pretty much alone.

I don't see this as the short term confrontation that Hegseth and others thought this was going to be.  Question is; do we have enough firepower to sustain a long term war?  Then, what about Russia, China and N. Korea?  I think we have to be concerned about protecting our mainland as well.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #883 on: May 09, 2026, 06:42:35 pm »
Plutonium bombs are about 100X more difficult to construct than Uranium.  Before Hiroshima, we were so certain that it would work, we didn't have to test it because it was a Uranium weapon.  But the Nagasaki bomb was Plutonium, and we had to test it at the Trinity site in New Mexico to see if would go off (it did).  Much more difficult because we had to create an implosion inside of a sphere. 

With Uranium you just have to shoot a chunk of Uranium into another chunk of Uranium to achieve a critical mass.  Boom!
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« Reply #885 on: May 09, 2026, 07:36:16 pm »
200 Nuclear Bombs!  Let that sink in.  No  wonder Trump is hesitating.  If this information is accurate, then we have to find a way to ensure that Iran does not use them. I think it is safe to assume that they have nukes. It is obvious that Iran cannot be tamed or bullied, they have to be taken out, and the magic question is, how?  Other than Israel, we're going this pretty much alone.
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« Reply #886 on: May 09, 2026, 08:34:04 pm »
Foreign militias reported manning checkpoints in Tehran


Members of Iraq’s Hashd al-Shaabi stand guard in Baghdad on March 24, 2026, as reports say the group has been deployed in Iran.

Foreign militia fighters are reportedly manning checkpoints in Tehran alongside Iranian security forces, according to a report by The Telegraph citing resident accounts and videos circulating on social media.

The report says members of Iraq’s Hashd al-Shaabi have been conducting vehicle searches in the capital and other major cities, with residents describing personnel who do not speak Persian and communicate primarily in Arabic.

"Right now, for several nights here, there are people at our neighborhood checkpoint who don’t speak Persian," one Tehran resident said. "They wear Hashd al-Shaabi uniforms and only communicate with gestures and a few broken words."

The Telegraph reported the fighters initially entered Iran in limited numbers during the final days of the war to provide humanitarian support, but have since taken on expanded roles including patrols and checkpoint enforcement.

Additional foreign fighters, including Afghan militias backed by Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, have also reportedly been deployed, though Iranian state media has not acknowledged any security role for these forces.
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« Reply #887 on: May 09, 2026, 08:34:35 pm »
Iranian state media and other outlets reported Saturday that an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commander said missiles and drones were "locked on" to U.S. targets and ships in the region, warning forces were "awaiting the order to fire."

The statement, attributed to IRGC Aerospace Force commander Brig. Gen. Seyyed Majid Mousavi, was carried by Press TV and picked up by other international outlets.

"The missiles and aerospace drones are locked on the enemy and we are waiting for the firing order," Mousavi said in a statement posted on social media, according to the reports.

The warning comes amid escalating tensions in the Persian Gulf following recent U.S. strikes on Iranian vessels and ongoing confrontations tied to a blockade of Iranian ports.

Iran’s Revolutionary Guard has previously emphasized its missile and drone capabilities in the region, particularly in the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz, a critical global shipping route and frequent flashpoint for military tensions.

There was no immediate confirmation from U.S. officials.
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« Reply #888 on: May 09, 2026, 08:35:29 pm »
Top US officials meet Qatari PM as Iran deal talks intensify

Top U.S. officials met with Qatar’s prime minister in Miami on Saturday as Washington pushes for a deal to end the war with Iran, according to Axios, citing sources familiar with the talks.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio and White House envoy Steve Witkoff held discussions with Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani, who has emerged as a key intermediary between the U.S. and Iran.

The meeting comes as the two sides negotiate a framework agreement aimed at halting the conflict and setting the stage for broader talks.

The U.S. is still awaiting Iran’s latest response, Axios reported.

Qatar has taken on a growing role in the negotiations behind the scenes, with U.S. officials viewing Doha as an effective channel for communication with Tehran.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #889 on: May 09, 2026, 09:06:57 pm »

Top US officials meet Qatari PM as Iran deal talks intensify
So many Generals, Foreign Affairs/Policy experts and think tanks, and just regular pundits, are so confused about what Trump expects to accomplish with all of this bizarre 'make a deal' crap. Especially considering all of Trump's belligerent jingoistic declarations only days ago. We all know that Iran is (eventually after stalling and delays) going to agree to anything and everything Trump demands. And then Iran will simply ignore it all as they always do.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #890 on: May 09, 2026, 09:48:45 pm »
Iranian state media and other outlets reported Saturday that an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commander said missiles and drones were "locked on" to U.S. targets and ships in the region, warning forces were "awaiting the order to fire."

The statement, attributed to IRGC Aerospace Force commander Brig. Gen. Seyyed Majid Mousavi, was carried by Press TV and picked up by other international outlets.

"The missiles and aerospace drones are locked on the enemy and we are waiting for the firing order," Mousavi said in a statement posted on social media, according to the reports.

Unconditional surrender was in the palm of his hand and Trump tossed it.   Trump appears to prefer throwing away his presidency, his stature and his legacy to engage satan's winged monkeys in streams of futile "negotiations".

I still can't begin to understand why. 





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« Reply #891 on: May 10, 2026, 07:54:34 am »

The meeting comes as the two sides negotiate a framework agreement aimed at halting the conflict and setting the stage for broader talks.

I repeat...what happened to THIS?


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« Reply #892 on: May 10, 2026, 08:11:29 am »
200 Nuclear Bombs!  Let that sink in.  No  wonder Trump is hesitating.  If this information is accurate, then we have to find a way to ensure that Iran does not use them. I think it is safe to assume that they have nukes. It is obvious that Iran cannot be tamed or bullied, they have to be taken out, and the magic question is, how?  Other than Israel, we're going this pretty much alone.

I don't see this as the short term confrontation that Hegseth and others thought this was going to be.  Question is; do we have enough firepower to sustain a long term war?  Then, what about Russia, China and N. Korea?  I think we have to be concerned about protecting our mainland as well.

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In another article in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists in April, Sokolski argued that Iran has enough plutonium for more than 200 nuclear bombs. He said, "The last time IAEA inspectors visited Bushehr was August 27, 2025. Even when agency inspectors had routine access to the plant, they only visited every 90 days -  more than enough time to divert the spent fuel and possibly fashion it into nuclear weapons."

He added that "President Obama did not insist on such surveillance even though the IAEA asked Iran to permit it. Tehran said no."

Recent IAEA reports have not addressed the plutonium path to a bomb with any specificity.
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« Reply #893 on: May 10, 2026, 08:13:02 am »
Just like France, embracing a loser

The UK destroyer departed a month ago and still is no where to be found.
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:wtf: What happened to 11 or 13?

The 11 were uranium bombs, these are plutonium bombs.
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« Reply #896 on: May 10, 2026, 09:49:23 am »
Iran Ceasefire Tested as Cargo Ship Catches Fire and Kuwait Reports Drone Attack
Sunday, 10 May 2026 08:44 AM EDT

Breaking:
Iran has sent its response ‌to a ​U.S. proposal aimed at ⁠ending ​the more than ⁠two-month war, Iran's IRNA news ‌agency ​said on ‌Sunday.

The ‌proposed plan, sent to mediator, ⁠Pakistan, ‌will ⁠focus at this ⁠stage ⁠on ending ‌the war, IRNA said.

Earlier story:

The shaky ceasefire in the Iran war was tested again on Sunday when a drone set a small fire on a ship off the coast of Qatar, while the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait reported separate drones entering their airspaces.

The UAE blamed Iran for the latest attack, the latest threat to a month-old ceasefire, which the Trump administration says remains in effect.

There were no casualties reported, and no one immediately claimed responsibility.

Iran and its armed allied groups possess a large fleet of drones and have used them to carry out hundreds of strikes since the war began. The events marked the latest threats to a month-old ceasefire, which the Trump administration says remains in effect.

The pause in fighting has faced difficulties, with Iran restricting traffic through the Strait of Hormuz, a strategic waterway key to the global flow of oil, and the U.S. imposing a blockade of Iranian ports.

Washington has been awaiting Iran’s response to a new proposal for a deal to end the war, reopen the strait to shipping and roll back Iran’s nuclear program. U.S. President Donald Trump has reiterated threats to resume full-scale bombing if Iran doesn’t accept an agreement to reopen the strait and roll back its nuclear program. Iran has mostly blocked the waterway since joint strikes on Feb. 28 by the U.S. and Israel launched the war, which has caused a global spike in fuel prices and rattled world markets.

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« Reply #897 on: May 10, 2026, 11:30:27 am »
Washington has been awaiting Iran’s response to a new proposal for a deal to end the war

Maybe I am STUPID, but it seems to me that Iran's response to the peace proposal is slapping Trump upside his head.
And so far, he is just ignoring it.
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« Reply #898 on: May 10, 2026, 11:33:12 am »
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« Reply #899 on: May 10, 2026, 11:39:08 am »
Washington has been awaiting Iran’s response to a new proposal for a deal to end the war

Maybe I am STUPID, but it seems to me that Iran's response to the peace proposal is slapping Trump upside his head.
And so far, he is just ignoring it.

When you have been able to effectively destroy Iran's military AND leadership in a couple of weeks....what's the bleeping hurry?   Why the impatience??

We're watching them closely by orbital satellites and high altitude drones, etc..

IMO, the IRGC spoke with the good Lord and He told them "President Trump and the USA will be okay, but you???  You're pretty much bleeped"
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If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now