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The world of 'politics' is getting darker and darker.  **nononono*  (I  know this is kind of a religious thread .... but ....it's showing how the political spectrum is changing and not in a good way)

'Pagan' outreach, Wiccan prayer defense could haunt Dem in battleground race


Republicans are escalating attacks on Iowa Democratic candidate Sarah Trone Garriott by pointing to her past op-eds — including her defense of a Wiccan-led statehouse prayer in which she argued "Jesus engaged with pagans" — in a high-stakes race for a GOP-held district.

Democratic congressional candidate Sarah Trone Garriott, a Lutheran minister who is vying for the battleground seat held by Rep. Zach Nunn, R-Iowa, penned an op-ed in The Des Moines Register in 2015 criticizing Christian lawmakers who boycotted a Wiccan-led statehouse prayer. This writing and others, including another op-ed in which she shared how the 9/11 terrorist attacks made her "more aware of the rising anti-Muslim bigotry and its harm," have become the target of GOP attacks as the Republicans ramp up efforts to defend their House majority.

"Sarah Trone Garriott is once again wagging her finger at Iowans for not being woke enough and embracing her coastal elite Harvard values," RNC spokesman Zachary Kraft said in a statement to Fox News Digital. "Trone Garriott better hope those spells and potions work if her campaign strategy is to oppose men in women's sports and embrace neopagan witchcraft."

Garriott's 2015 opinion piece titled, 'Look closely at scripture before acting in faith,' blasted Iowa lawmakers for skipping the prayer led by a self-described "cabot witch," saying they didn't "look closely and honestly" at Christian Holy Scriptures when deciding to boycott...............

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pagan-outreach-wiccan-prayer-defense-could-haunt-dem-battleground-race
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This is who's running in the DEM party -- demonic, witchcraft and evil.  Certainly anti-Christian.   **nononono*

Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

Romans 12:16-18

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Yeah, I'm guessing that's the ELCA version of the Lutheran church, which is no church at all.
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Yeah, I'm guessing that's the ELCA version of the Lutheran church, which is no church at all.

Sounds a lot like Methodists (full disclosure:  I was raised a Methodist  The First Church of Money, as I've called them.).
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This is who's running in the DEM party -- demonic, witchcraft and evil.  Certainly anti-Christian.   **nononono*



She's not a bad looking woman, but I've always thought of wiccans as being of the Occult, which is Satanic.
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Sounds a lot like Methodists (full disclosure:  I was raised a Methodist  The First Church of Money, as I've called them.).
ELCA, PCUSA, UMC, UCC ... virtually indistinguishable, but oh-so-woke. (full disclosure: I'm a former member of PCUSA churches - currently EPC).
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Sounds a lot like Methodists (full disclosure:  I was raised a Methodist  The First Church of Money, as I've called them.).


Interesting . I will admit I haven't been to church in many years. (Believer in the Gospel, God and Jesus...just not the church). I was raised Methodist as well.* They must have changed their ideology.

* truthfully, any time a church door opened, of any denomination, they sent me.

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Interesting . I will admit I haven't been to church in many years. (Believer in the Gospel, God and Jesus...just not the church). I was raised Methodist as well.* They must have changed their ideology.

* truthfully, any time a church door opened, of any denomination, they sent me.

The United Methodist Church has been veering hard aport since the 70 's. One of the first Churches to swing so far to the left.  Took me years to get back into a Curch after leaving that!  In a nice non-denominational Church now.  I like it, Jesus lives there.
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Interesting . I will admit I haven't been to church in many years. (Believer in the Gospel, God and Jesus...just not the church). I was raised Methodist as well.* They must have changed their ideology.

* truthfully, any time a church door opened, of any denomination, they sent me.

Nah... Methodists have always been weird that way. You have to look hard to find the churches who remain true to their orthodoxy. It must be something in their structuring that lets them wander away and start going fruit loops... Though that can be said of every branch of the old guard.  :shrug:

Some of my favorite people are Methodist. And hard-core Christians, all.

By the same token, I had a long conversation, lasting months, with a dying methodist preacher who was gay, and a pedophile. Crazytown. And his congregation was fine with that.  :shrug:


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ELCA, PCUSA, UMC, UCC ... virtually indistinquishable, but oh-so-woke. (full disclosure: I'm a former member of PCUSA churches - currently EPC).

Toss in the Episcopalians as well.  Okay you can tell them apart in that their liturgical texts have better poetics, but in terms of deviation for apostolic faith, order and morals to be the church of what's happening, their just like your list.  (full disclosure:  I was raised PCUSA, was an Episcopalian for 12 years back when there was at least a minority adhering to apostolic faith, order and morals, and am now Orthodox, under the Patriarchate of Antioch to be precise, because that's what there is in Kansas, once you're west of Lawrence.)
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The United Methodist Church has been veering hard aport since the 70 's. One of the first Churches to swing so far to the left.  Took me years to get back into a Curch after leaving that!  In a nice non-denominational Church now.  I like it, Jesus lives there.

Well I have been baptized and confirmed in the Catholic Church, confirmed in the Episcopal Church and attended several non-denominational Churches. At the last non-denominational church there were accusations of the youth leader making sexual advances towards students.  The pastor left shortly after and  I wound up eventually going back to Catholicism, though I don't technically belong to any one Church.  That is the faith the I grew up with and the faith that I will die with. The 'Church' has changed dramatically -- I grew up when the mass was said in Latin. The changes drove me away for a long time.

I do NOT agree with nor like this Pope, and I didn't like the one prior.  The ecumenical movement IMO was not a good thing; in many ways it changed the reverence that I was taught.  The Catholic Church has gone from Pope Pius XII who was against communism and political correctness to  Pope Leo XIV who leans very much towards socialism/communism and political correctness further changing the ideology/doctrine of the Catholic Church.
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Romans 12:16-18

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I am a revert to the Catholic Church, went Non denominational for a while and found my way back. I have been a conservative all my life. And I have say very frankly that those of you criticizing Leo and his predecessors might need to spend a little time studying the word of God.
Specifically:John 13:34-35
34 I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all people will know that you are My disciples: if you have love for one another.”

Can anyone cite for me where Jesus gave exceptions to that new Commandment. Note Commandment not suggestion.

Or how about this one: Matthew 22:37-39
37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the great and [a]foremost commandment. 39 The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’

And for those of yo  not thrilled with the Ecumenical movement: Matthew 9:10-13
Then it happened that as Jesus was reclining at the table in the house, behold, many tax collectors and sinners came and were dining with Jesus and His disciples. When the Pharisees saw this, they said to His disciples, “Why is your Teacher eating with the tax collectors and sinners?” But when Jesus heard this, He said, “It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick. But go and learn what this means: ‘I DESIRE COMPASSION, AND NOT SACRIFICE,’ for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

Jesus was not condoning sinful behavior. He met sinners where they were and changed hearts and minds.
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