Austria closes airspace to US military

[rangerrebew]

Austria closes airspace to US military
Story by Steve Mollman • 1h

Newsweek
Exclusive—Iraq Militia Vows To Strike US Bases If Airspace Used To Hit Iran
Austria has denied the United States permission to use its airspace for military operations related to the war with Iran, citing the country’s long‑standing policy of neutrality.

A spokesperson for Austria’s defense ministry told Newsweek on Thursday: “For reasons of neutrality, Austria refuses overflights and the transit of troops if these would serve to provide military support to a party to any conflicts. If it is known that a military aircraft or military vehicle is directly or indirectly involved in a conflict, overflight or transit will be denied in consultation with the ministry of foreign affairs.”
 

The move places Austria among a growing number of European countries restricting U.S. military access as Washington and Israel continue their campaign against Iran.

Why It Matters
Austria’s decision underscores mounting diplomatic friction between the U.S. and several European partners as the Middle East conflict deepens. While Austria is not a NATO member, its central geographic position in Europe makes its airspace strategically significant for military transit between Western Europe and the Middle East.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/austria-closes-airspace-to-us-military/ar-AA200tFs?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[rangerrebew]

Iraq Militia Vows To Strike US Bases If Airspace Used To Hit Iran

Somehow I suspect this would be a very bad choice for them.

[libertybele]

Well, Trump's warning to our allies and those who refuse to help the U.S. should be taken seriously.  Doubtfully he's not going to waste our money nor our troops when they need our help.

I will be surprised if Trump doesn't withdraw us from NATO. In doing so, he would have to remove our nukes out of other countries -- where would he store them all??

My question is does Trump need Congressional approval to withdraw us from NATO and remove nukes???

[MeganC]

Well, Trump's warning to our allies and those who refuse to help the U.S. should be taken seriously.  Doubtfully he's not going to waste our money nor our troops when they need our help.

I will be surprised if Trump doesn't withdraw us from NATO. In doing so, he would have to remove our nukes out of other countries -- where would he store them all??

My question is does Trump need Congressional approval to withdraw us from NATO and remove nukes???

Austria is neither a member of NATO or an ally of the USA.

[libertybele]

Austria is neither a member of NATO or an ally of the USA.

Thanks for your 'correction' @MeganC   (You are far wiser than I am).

However, does it truly matter? As they headline reads "Austria closes airspace to US military".  The point being that they have shut the door on us.  Though they don't depend on the U.S. (we give them little money in the grand picture) we can easily shut the door on them.  It's a two way street; should they need our help in the future?? Who knows.  Trump will remember their lack of support. 

[MeganC]

Thanks for your 'correction' @MeganC   (You are far wiser than I am).

I know some things but I also know to value wisdom which you have in abundance.

However, does it truly matter? As they headline reads "Austria closes airspace to US military".  The point being that they have shut the door on us.  Though they don't depend on the U.S. (we give them little money in the grand picture) we can easily shut the door on them.  It's a two way street; should they need our help in the future?? Who knows.  Trump will remember their lack of support.

I expect the President to act on this. At the same time what Austria does is different from what our fair weather friends do.

[BobfromWB]

Austria closes airspace to US military
Story by Steve Mollman • 1h

Newsweek
Exclusive—Iraq Militia Vows To Strike US Bases If Airspace Used To Hit Iran
Austria has denied the United States permission to use its airspace for military operations related to the war with Iran, citing the country’s long‑standing policy of neutrality.

A spokesperson for Austria’s defense ministry told Newsweek on Thursday: “For reasons of neutrality, Austria refuses overflights and the transit of troops if these would serve to provide military support to a party to any conflicts. If it is known that a military aircraft or military vehicle is directly or indirectly involved in a conflict, overflight or transit will be denied in consultation with the ministry of foreign affairs.”
 

The move places Austria among a growing number of European countries restricting U.S. military access as Washington and Israel continue their campaign against Iran.

Why It Matters
Austria’s decision underscores mounting diplomatic friction between the U.S. and several European partners as the Middle East conflict deepens. While Austria is not a NATO member, its central geographic position in Europe makes its airspace strategically significant for military transit between Western Europe and the Middle East.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/austria-closes-airspace-to-us-military/ar-AA200tFs?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Another country that made a lot of money selling weapon and nuclear parts to Iran. Makes Putin very happy to see his nemesis falling apart without one Russian casualty.

Europe will be ripe for Russian picking as soon as he finishes off Ukraine ... if he can. Perhaps the Hungarian, Slovakian and Transnistrian armies will be opening a second front with Putin's blessing.

[MeganC]

Another country that made a lot of money selling weapon and nuclear parts to Iran. Makes Putin very happy to see his nemesis falling apart without one Russian casualty.

Europe will be ripe for Russian picking as soon as he finishes off Ukraine ... if he can. Perhaps the Hungarian, Slovakian and Transnistrian armies will be opening a second front with Putin's blessing.

Transnistria is cooked. Ukraine and Moldova put an end to Russian support and in due time the 1500 Russian troops will go home if someone gives them an airplane ride. They are barred from land crossings.

[Timber Rattler]

Very, VERY short-sighted.  I guess the Europeans are grasping the idea that Trump wants out of NATO altogether, and they are handing him the pretext for doing so.

Idiots.

(And yeah, I know that Austria is not a member of NATO but Trump won't know or understand that distinction)

[Kamaji]

Trump will need the agreement of Congress to withdraw from NATO.

[MeganC]

Trump will need the agreement of Congress to withdraw from NATO.

Agreed. 

The Senate must ratify treaties so it follows the Senate must also agree to end them.

[Kamaji]

Agreed. 

The Senate must ratify treaties so it follows the Senate must also agree to end them.

Not so much that, although I do like the thinking.  There is a 2023 federal statute that prevents theUS from leaving NATO without the concurrence of Congress.   

[MeganC]

Not so much that, although I do like the thinking.  There is a 2023 federal statute that prevents theUS from leaving NATO without the concurrence of Congress.

I was unaware of this, thank you!