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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2852 on: April 13, 2026, 10:35:32 am »
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🚨 CLARIFICATION — STRAIT OF HORMUZ BLOCKADE UPDATE:

The U.S. Navy’s impending naval blockade does NOT apply to non-Iranian traffic.

American warships are only targeting Iranian ports and Iranian-flagged ships.

Foreign vessels, including oil tankers from China, India, Japan, and everyone else, can still pass through the Strait of Hormuz freely.

This is a precise, surgical shutdown aimed straight at the Iranian regime’s oil revenue and supply lines.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2856 on: April 13, 2026, 12:14:22 pm »

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2043713511272894726

Gee, I wonder what Pope Leo thinks of this???  Perhaps he feels that Iran blocking the strait and charging 2,000,000 for tankers to get through is ok??

Sorry --- separation of Church and State is strongly needed here -- including that on Trump's part.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2858 on: April 13, 2026, 12:52:01 pm »
I was extremely hesitant walking into this because of foreign entanglements and our record of useless wars, but now that we're into it and and have ripped the mask off, we have to eliminate their leadership mafia style.

They will never ever stop trying to make nukes, slaughter their people, eradicate Israel, acquire long range ICBM's to bomb the US, and put the whole Middle East under their boot as Russia's proxy.

Keeping them around is inviting a true WWIII. Our choices at this point are limited.
Our choices always were limited. Dhimmitude under a nuclear Iran run by the 12ers, or take out the trash.
Europe wasn't going to get the job done, they're already folding and have been since the first no-go zones in Paris.

Our options haven't changed, they are just in focus.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2859 on: April 13, 2026, 01:15:57 pm »
Those of you in the bubble care, yes.
Once again, why are you here in this bubble with the rest of us?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2860 on: April 13, 2026, 01:18:37 pm »
You people just hate honest commentary - this place is becoming like TOS. Where you pile on a comment agreeing with another poster, but not the original poster who made the comment you purport to dislike, adding ad hominum attacks for good measure.
Did you go back and read it again or just go spew some more swill once more?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2861 on: April 13, 2026, 01:29:59 pm »
Did you go back and read it again or just go spew some more swill once more?

Whenever somebody doesn't like the commentary here, they accuse people of "being just like TOS."   It's old and tiring (in addition to being false), but it's the arrow in their quiver.  Then they prove themselves wrong by continuing to post the very things unhindered that would get them tossed from TOS.   :shrug:


As if that's the worst epithet they can throw....
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2862 on: April 13, 2026, 01:35:41 pm »
Once again, why are you here in this bubble with the rest of us?

 :shrug: Because i have political opinions that I'm honest about. I call 'em as I see 'em.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2863 on: April 13, 2026, 01:47:03 pm »
:shrug: Because i have political opinions that I'm honest about. I call 'em as I see 'em.
I have no problems with reasoned dissent.
We don't get the right answers by all agreeing all the time.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2864 on: April 13, 2026, 02:00:58 pm »
Whenever somebody doesn't like the commentary here, they accuse people of "being just like TOS."   It's old and tiring (in addition to being false), but it's the arrow in their quiver.  Then they prove themselves wrong by continuing to post the very things unhindered that would get them tossed from TOS.   :shrug:


As if that's the worst epithet they can throw....

I guess its been a while since you where on TOS, but these sorts of personal attacks is exactly the type of behavior that has destroyed TOS. If you do not like what I post, then 'Ignore' me or be silent.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2865 on: April 13, 2026, 02:02:05 pm »
:shrug: Because i have political opinions that I'm honest about. I call 'em as I see 'em.

???? If you have no interest in the conflict between Iran and the U.S. then voicing your opinion about the issue is kind of futile.
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« Reply #2866 on: April 13, 2026, 02:03:17 pm »
I have no problems with reasoned dissent.
We don't get the right answers by all agreeing all the time.

Nor do I! But Trump can do nothing right gets mighty tiresome.
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« Reply #2867 on: April 13, 2026, 02:18:14 pm »
I guess its been a while since you where on TOS, but these sorts of personal attacks is exactly the type of behavior that has destroyed TOS. If you do not like what I post, then 'Ignore' me or be silent.

Well, you might have a point if I weren't an Admin....
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« Reply #2868 on: April 13, 2026, 02:20:21 pm »
???? If you have no interest in the conflict between Iran and the U.S. then voicing your opinion about the issue is kind of futile.

I have mild interest in it, I think it's just the wrong war at the wrong time.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2869 on: April 13, 2026, 02:27:53 pm »
Nor do I! But Trump can do nothing right gets mighty tiresome.
My greatest concern, there, is that (especially with the Iran conflict) there are many sources of disinformation out there.
Just a little vetting can help avoid or at least give proper weight to those sources.

That alone would reduce a lot of the 'Trump can do nothing right' nonsense based on false information, and would help sort out what is true in a very contentious media landscape.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2870 on: April 13, 2026, 02:50:33 pm »
At TBR members can argue all they want..the main problem for Admin and the Mods is when it get's personal and name calling begins...so just refrain from all that.

If TBR was like TOS half of you would be gone already... :bolt:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2871 on: April 13, 2026, 03:07:12 pm »
I guess its been a while since you where on TOS, but these sorts of personal attacks is exactly the type of behavior that has destroyed TOS. If you do not like what I post, then 'Ignore' me or be silent.

@BobfromWB  we all get frustrated at times in here (that's why we have the Member's Lounge - non political).

I have been a member of this forum for awhile and was never a member of TOS.  Most of us respect each other's opinions though we may not agree with them. Trashing a political opponent is allowed, but not trashing a member of TBR.

Continuous trashing can become tiresome as can negative viewpoints (which I am guilty of). Just being obstinate because you don't like the President or a politician with really no basis other than just because, then it no longer is an opinion based on factual information, or really up for debate. There's a lot of disinformation out there, especially about Trump spewed not only by the DEMS but RINO's as well.

Yes, your opinions are welcome and we need differing opinions; again, we may not all agree, but respecting one another's opinions (other than just spewing b.s.) I have found to usually be the norm in here.

As for the moderators and owner of this forum, they are awesome and they have IMO elevated this forum above all others that I have have joined in the past and left.

Just my two cents.

                                                                                                                                                   
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2872 on: April 13, 2026, 03:37:25 pm »
Nor do I! But Trump can do nothing right gets mighty tiresome.

As does endless rah rah rah, especially when what i see from friends and family doesn't align with the narrative here.

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« Reply #2873 on: April 13, 2026, 03:46:54 pm »
As does endless rah rah rah, especially when what i see from friends and family doesn't align with the narrative here.

LOL!  Click on the DRUDGE REPORT....you'll sell everything you have and live in a camper down by the river.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2874 on: April 13, 2026, 03:48:36 pm »
As does endless rah rah rah, especially when what i see from friends and family doesn't align with the narrative here.

So ... I guess it boils down to doing a little research and perhaps some soul searching as to the situation this country was in under Biden and Obama and how they align with your personal preferences.
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« Reply #2875 on: April 13, 2026, 03:50:39 pm »
LOL!  Click on the DRUDGE REPORT....you'll sell everything you have and live in a camper down by the river.

See there's two extremes: drudge which thinks everything Trump does is the end of the world, and this place which is just endless rah rah rah (with a few exceptions).

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2876 on: April 13, 2026, 03:50:49 pm »
So ........anyone for getting back on topic??? 

Trump-issued naval blockade of Iranian ports in Strait of Hormuz begins

President Donald Trump said on Monday that Iran wants to make a deal, while adding that he will not come to any agreement that allows Tehran to have a nuclear weapon.

Trump said talks in Islamabad, led by JD Vance, on Saturday had failed because of the nuclear issue and confirmed that a "blockade" of ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz had started Monday.

According to Reuters, Trump said Iran had "called this morning" and that "they'd like to work a deal."

"Iran will not have a nuclear weapon," Trump also said at the White House. "We can't let a country blackmail or extort the world," he added.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-blockade-strait-hormuz-israel-april-13
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« Reply #2877 on: April 13, 2026, 03:51:00 pm »
So ... I guess it boils down to doing a little research and perhaps some soul searching as to the situation this country was in under Biden and Obama and how they align with your personal preferences.

That's slander...

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« Reply #2878 on: April 13, 2026, 04:37:46 pm »
That's slander...

@libertybele could say the same thing to me and I would not consider it to be slander. Not at all. Her comment at face value is neutral.

"So ... I guess it boils down to doing a little research and perhaps some soul searching as to the situation this country was in under Biden and Obama and how they align with your personal preferences."

She's encouraging you to engage in self-assessment against a measure. The outcome of the assessment is then something she's asking you to contemplate on your own.

Therefore the only possible slander against you would come from the red haired guy in the mirror.

So far I do not know that guy to engage in slander so I'd expect you'll be fine.  happy77

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2879 on: April 13, 2026, 04:58:26 pm »
Iran secures UN role with backing from UK, France, Canada, Australia as US stands alone

Western democracies, including the UK, France, Canada and Australia, are facing backlash after allowing Iran and other authoritarian regimes to secure seats on influential United Nations (U.N.) bodies, with the United States standing alone in opposition.

The controversy stems from decisions by the United Nations Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), a 54-member body that plays a central role in shaping U.N. policy and staffing key committees.

Critics warn the outcome could allow governments accused of human rights abuses to influence global policy and control which civil society groups are granted access to the United Nations.

ECOSOC nominated the Islamic Republic of Iran to the U.N.’s Committee for Program and Coordination Wednesday, a body that helps shape policy on human rights, women’s rights, disarmament and counterterrorism.

The nomination is widely expected to be finalized, as the United Nations General Assembly typically approves such recommendations without a vote.

At the same session, ECOSOC elected China, Cuba, Nicaragua, Saudi Arabia and Sudan to the Committee on Non-Governmental Organizations, which oversees accreditation and access for thousands of NGOs operating within the U.N. system.

The United States was the only member state to formally break from consensus.

In remarks delivered April 8, U.S. Representative to ECOSOC Ambassador Dan Negrea said the U.S. "disassociates from consensus" on both decisions, calling several of the countries involved unfit for such roles.

"The regime threatens its neighbors and has, for decades, infringed on the Iranian people’s ability to exercise their basic human rights," Negrea said, adding that "we believe Iran is unfit to serve" on the committee.

This is an excerpt from a report by Efrat Lachter.
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« Reply #2880 on: April 13, 2026, 04:59:38 pm »
Legal challenges surrounding the US blockade of Iranian ports: report

The U.S. blockade of ports along the entirety of the Iranian coastline must be officially announced and effectively and impartially enforced to meet international law, legal experts told the Associated Press.

“You have to apply it to everybody going in and out of Iran,” Raul Pedrozo, professor of international law at the U.S. Naval War College, said.

“It doesn’t just apply to people we don’t like.”

The U.S. said it began blocking ships from entering or exiting Iranian ports near the Strait of Hormuz at 10 a.m. ET on Monday.

The legal requirements are to warn mariners of any blockade and to make sure it is enforced fairly and safely.

International law experts will also be watching to see if the U.S. allows humanitarian aid, food or medicine to reach Iran, the outlet said.

“How it is carried out will determine whether it is lawful or not,” Todd Huntley, a retired Navy captain and director of Georgetown University’s National Security Law Program, said.
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« Reply #2881 on: April 13, 2026, 05:06:00 pm »
Iran secures UN role with backing from UK, France, Canada, Australia as US stands alone

Western democracies, including the UK, France, Canada and Australia, are facing backlash after allowing Iran and other authoritarian regimes to secure seats on influential United Nations (U.N.) bodies, with the United States standing alone in opposition.

The controversy stems from decisions by the United Nations Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), a 54-member body that plays a central role in shaping U.N. policy and staffing key committees.

Critics warn the outcome could allow governments accused of human rights abuses to influence global policy and control which civil society groups are granted access to the United Nations.

ECOSOC nominated the Islamic Republic of Iran to the U.N.’s Committee for Program and Coordination Wednesday, a body that helps shape policy on human rights, women’s rights, disarmament and counterterrorism.

The nomination is widely expected to be finalized, as the United Nations General Assembly typically approves such recommendations without a vote.

At the same session, ECOSOC elected China, Cuba, Nicaragua, Saudi Arabia and Sudan to the Committee on Non-Governmental Organizations, which oversees accreditation and access for thousands of NGOs operating within the U.N. system.

The United States was the only member state to formally break from consensus.

In remarks delivered April 8, U.S. Representative to ECOSOC Ambassador Dan Negrea said the U.S. "disassociates from consensus" on both decisions, calling several of the countries involved unfit for such roles.

"The regime threatens its neighbors and has, for decades, infringed on the Iranian people’s ability to exercise their basic human rights," Negrea said, adding that "we believe Iran is unfit to serve" on the committee.

This is an excerpt from a report by Efrat Lachter.
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It is time for the US to reduce our UN contribution to the same level as that of the independent country of Vatican City: $17,100
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2882 on: April 13, 2026, 05:34:13 pm »
It is time for the US to reduce our UN contribution to the same level as that of the independent country of Vatican City: $17,100

--OR-- Get the U.S. out of the U.N. 
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2883 on: April 13, 2026, 05:35:45 pm »
That's slander...

Ok ... sorry you see it that way, but how about back on topic???
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2884 on: April 13, 2026, 05:36:46 pm »
Iran’s internet blackout drains up to $80 million a day, official says

Iran's internet shutdown is causing tens of millions of dollars in daily losses to the country’s economy, according to the head of the Knowledge-Based Economy Commission at Iran’s Chamber of Commerce.

Afshin Kolahi said the direct cost of internet outages is between $30 million and $40 million per day, Iran International reported.

Including indirect losses, Kolahi also said the total impact rises to roughly $70 million to $80 million daily.

He compared the scale of the losses to major infrastructure projects.

Building a bridge such as the B1 bridge, which was hit in an airstrike during the war, costs around $15 million to $20 million, he said.

Meanwhile, the cost of constructing each megawatt of power plant capacity ranges from $1 million to $3 million.

Kolahi said the economic impact of internet shutdowns is effectively equivalent to losing multiple infrastructure projects every day.

“In practice, internet shutdowns mean losing the equivalent of four B1 bridges and two medium-sized power plants every day,” he told the outlet.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-blockade-strait-hormuz-israel-april-13

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2885 on: April 13, 2026, 05:39:06 pm »
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The U.S. naval blockade has officially resulted in the interception of at least two tankers attempting to transport Iranian oil to China. The vessels, Rich Starry and Ostria, were intercepted while flying 'false flags' of landlocked nations—Botswana and Malawi, respectively.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2886 on: April 13, 2026, 05:43:53 pm »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2887 on: April 13, 2026, 05:45:49 pm »
A Federal Judge has issued a stay of Trumps blockade until Friends of the Erf can file for an Environmental Survey.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2888 on: April 13, 2026, 05:48:10 pm »
A Federal Judge has issued a stay of Trumps blockade until Friends of the Erf can file for an Environmental Survey.

 :thud: :facepalm2: :banghead:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2889 on: April 13, 2026, 05:49:38 pm »
:thud: :facepalm2: :banghead:

Pretty sure that one was a joke....
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2891 on: April 13, 2026, 05:50:22 pm »
This has got to be a joke



https://twitter.com/24_70xu/status/2043681335668326402


I think I read something similar the other day -- perhaps this is the rest of the story that the Trump administration doesn't want us to know.   

God help us if it's true -- this combined with some judge impeding the blockade is a flippin' nightmare!!! Oh -- that and our spineless allies ...... 

The weight on Trump's shoulders keeps piling on ....
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2892 on: April 13, 2026, 07:06:32 pm »
Pretty sure that one was a joke....

These days nothing seems like a joke -- the world is becoming more chaotic by the day.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2893 on: April 13, 2026, 07:17:28 pm »
Ghadir class subs are small, (120 tons), diesel electric, and can launch torpedoes and/or missiles. Iran started the war with 23 of them, not sure how many are left. Their size makes them more difficult to detect, even in shallow water (from the air), and they could do serious damage. Range: 550 nautical miles (just about 1000 km).

The question is one of how many have survived, whether the crews have, and what their operational status is.

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The Ghadir’s most worrying attribute is not speed or firepower, but how it exploits the Gulf’s physics. The Persian Gulf’s salinity, currents, and temperature layering can distort sound propagation and reduce the reliability of both active and passive sonar. Larger submarines are restricted in parts of the Gulf not only by draft but by environmental complexity. The attached analysis describes how thermoclines and acoustic shadow zones, combined with heavy ambient noise and bottom clutter, complicate consistent tracking of a small battery-running submarine. Within that framework, the Ghadir’s reported bottom-resting approach becomes tactically plausible. A diesel-electric midget submarine can shut down, settle on the seabed, and become acoustically and physically difficult to distinguish from terrain.

Worthy of note. More in depth information here:https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/navy-news/2026/iran-deploys-20-ghadir-mini-submarines-to-threaten-u-s-carrier-strike-groups-in-persian-gulf#google_vignette

@MeganC You may have been right about the 'hedgehog' setup.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2894 on: April 13, 2026, 07:45:00 pm »
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Another Hezbollah operative recently killed fighting Israel was identified as Ramez Zuahir Hamoud. His funeral will be held tomorrow.



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2895 on: April 13, 2026, 08:05:02 pm »
See there's two extremes: drudge which thinks everything Trump does is the end of the world, and this place which is just endless rah rah rah (with a few exceptions).

We're in no less a bubble right now than any of us (in here) accuses everyone (out there) of being in.

So, the question then becomes... why are you in this bubble if you find it so annoying?

If it's an 80/20 thing then OK... do your 20% thing. But don't then bring the rest of us in on that need.

None of us is required to conduct ourselves in a manner that makes your 20% comfortable to you.

So deal with us reacting to your 20% or not.  :shrug:

We like our bubble.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2896 on: April 13, 2026, 08:19:34 pm »
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USNI: The USS George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group is transiting around Africa to the Middle East, avoiding the Red Sea.



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2897 on: April 13, 2026, 09:18:13 pm »
 Iran doesn’t have ‘military means’ to keep up fight against US and Israel: ex-Pakistani official
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Published April 13, 2026
Updated April 13, 2026, 3:27 p.m. ET

ISLAMABAD — President Trump’s naval blockade of Iranian ports is targeting one of the Islamic Republic’s most sensitive points — and it may be enough to inspire Tehran to respond to the US’ peace overtures, a former senior Pakistani official told The Post on Monday after weekend talks here ended without a deal.

“This may prove totally wrong, but it’s my assumption that whatever option has been given to them as ‘Take it or leave it,’ they will come back on it — either saying ‘We accept it,’ or they will say, ‘We totally reject it,'” explained retired Lt. Gen. Muhammad Saeed. “Or they will say, ‘These are adjustments we seek in your option.'”

Saeed added that Iran will be eager to resume negotiations with Washington because “they know what economic hardships their people are facing.”

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https://nypost.com/2026/04/13/world-news/iran-doesnt-have-military-means-to-keep-up-fight-against-us-and-israel-pakistani-official/
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2899 on: April 13, 2026, 09:42:43 pm »
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Two tankers turned back and a drone downed already. Iran blinked again when tested directly. Blockade working so far.

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