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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2801 on: April 12, 2026, 08:15:36 pm »

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2043476309385396549

Well .... I have little doubt that Iranians will start using drones to bomb vessels in the Strait.  I don't think they're just going to sit back and do nothing.  I think there is going to be a significant battle and perhaps a reason for the U.S. to control/hold Kharg Island.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2802 on: April 12, 2026, 08:22:53 pm »

Over 6,000 IRGC members killed, 15,000 wounded since the start of Operation Roaring Lion, IDF says

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MARCH 15, 2026

Over 6,000 members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) have been killed, and about 15,000 have been wounded since the start of Operations Roaring Lion and Epic Fury, according to IDF intelligence.

"Senior officials are being pursued," a senior military official told Walla. "They are deleting and erasing posts on X/Twitter."

He added that Iran's firing at Turkey and Azerbaijan is "unclear," but is a sign of further problems between the political echelon and those operating on the ground.

The official added that the "hunting" and targeted eliminations of senior regime figures have led to significant pressure and confusion for those in leadership positions.

According to him, even the statement made by Mojtaba Khamenei on Thursday raised questions about the new supreme leader's health, as "if he wasn’t injured, he would have been photographed, he would have gone outside."

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https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-889964

I am sure those numbers are much larger now. Also, I have read reports of Iranian citizens killing IRGC Ghestapo thugs similar to the French resistance. Iranian Partisans are killing them in the streets or where they find them in any way they can. The IRGC is considered an 'occupation force' by 90% of Iranians.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2803 on: April 12, 2026, 08:37:55 pm »
Trump eyes limited military action against Iran after failed Islamabad talks: report

President Donald Trump is weighing the possibility of restarting limited military strikes on Iran, along with the Strait of Hormuz blockade, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Citing U.S. officials, the outlet said the options are being considered as a way to break the stalemate in peace talks, following the collapse of negotiations in Pakistan.

Officials indicated that a full-scale bombing campaign is less likely, given concerns about further destabilizing the region and Trump’s reluctance to engage in prolonged military conflicts.

The report also noted that Trump could pursue a temporary blockade of the strait while pressuring U.S. allies to take on responsibility for a sustained maritime escort mission in the future.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2804 on: April 12, 2026, 08:51:37 pm »
Trump eyes limited military action against Iran after failed Islamabad talks: report

President Donald Trump is weighing the possibility of restarting limited military strikes on Iran, along with the Strait of Hormuz blockade, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Citing U.S. officials, the outlet said the options are being considered as a way to break the stalemate in peace talks, following the collapse of negotiations in Pakistan.

Officials indicated that a full-scale bombing campaign is less likely, given concerns about further destabilizing the region and Trump’s reluctance to engage in prolonged military conflicts.

The report also noted that Trump could pursue a temporary blockade of the strait while pressuring U.S. allies to take on responsibility for a sustained maritime escort mission in the future.
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Iran didn't blink.  It will be interesting to see what transpires in the next couple of days. As for our allies taking on responsibility in the near future, that will be another interesting issue to watch unfold as too many have depended on the U.S. for way too long.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2805 on: April 12, 2026, 08:55:15 pm »
Oil prices spike as Trump says US to block Strait of Hormuz

Oil prices rose in early market trading after President Donald Trump announced the U.S. would blockade Iranian ports, and as U.S. Central Command announced the plans would start Monday.

CNBC reported the price of U.S. crude oil rose 8% to $104.24 per barrel. Brent crude oil, the international standard, rose 7% to $102.29 per barrel.

Brent crude has swung during the war, rising from around $70 per barrel before the U.S.-Israeli attacks started on Feb. 28 to more than $119 at times.

“We’re not going to let Iran make money on selling oil to people that they like and not people that they don’t like, or whatever it is. It’s going to be all or none,” Trump said on “Sunday Morning Futures.”

Similarly, Trump also said the U.S. would block “any and all ships trying to enter or leave the Strait of Hormuz,” in a post on Truth Social before adding that the blockade would be “effective immediately.”
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2806 on: April 12, 2026, 08:56:12 pm »
Oil prices spike as Trump says US to block Strait of Hormuz

Oil prices rose in early market trading after President Donald Trump announced the U.S. would blockade Iranian ports, and as U.S. Central Command announced the plans would start Monday.

CNBC reported the price of U.S. crude oil rose 8% to $104.24 per barrel. Brent crude oil, the international standard, rose 7% to $102.29 per barrel.

Brent crude has swung during the war, rising from around $70 per barrel before the U.S.-Israeli attacks started on Feb. 28 to more than $119 at times.

“We’re not going to let Iran make money on selling oil to people that they like and not people that they don’t like, or whatever it is. It’s going to be all or none,” Trump said on “Sunday Morning Futures.”

Similarly, Trump also said the U.S. would block “any and all ships trying to enter or leave the Strait of Hormuz,” in a post on Truth Social before adding that the blockade would be “effective immediately.”
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Nobody cares about this Iran war. Nobody. You guys are living in your own little bubble.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2807 on: April 12, 2026, 09:15:57 pm »
Nobody cares about this Iran war. Nobody. You guys are living in your own little bubble.
We all care.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2809 on: April 12, 2026, 09:21:57 pm »
Nobody cares about this Iran war. Nobody. You guys are living in your own little bubble.

??? Interesting perspective you have about this war.  I sure as heck care. Stopping Iran in their tracks from making nukes is pretty darn significant.  Taking out the Ayatollah was way over due. Those in this country and in our Congress who are complacent about Iran is a serious problem that we face. I'm assuming you don't remember the Iran Contra Affair or the terror of the Ayatollah?

If anyone is living in a bubble, it's you. Just sayin'.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2810 on: April 12, 2026, 09:37:38 pm »
It is always strange when someone posts to a thread and says, I don't care about this at all!
Really? But you cared enough to write and post a statement about how you don't care.

I've seen it before and it always makes me chuckle.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2811 on: April 12, 2026, 09:52:27 pm »
Iran’s president signals openness to US deal if Washington shifts approach

Iran’s President Masoud Pezeshkian said Sunday that an agreement with the United States is still a possibility if Washington takes a different stance toward Tehran.

“If the American government abandons its totalitarianism and respects the rights of the Iranian nation, ways to reach an agreement will certainly be found,” Pezeshkian said in a post translated from Persian to English shared on X.

“I commend the members of the negotiating team, especially my dear brother Dr. Mohammad Bagher Qalibaf, and say, ‘God gives you strength,’” he added.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2812 on: April 12, 2026, 09:56:12 pm »
I agree. I believe that Trump's tweets and his impulsiveness are intentional. Nobody ever knows what he is planning or what he may do.
In a military arena this is a very good trait to have. Crazy respects crazy. Fanatics fear fanatics because they know themselves.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2813 on: April 12, 2026, 10:07:49 pm »
Iran’s president signals openness to US deal if Washington shifts approach

Iran’s President Masoud Pezeshkian said Sunday that an agreement with the United States is still a possibility if Washington takes a different stance toward Tehran.

“If the American government abandons its totalitarianism and respects the rights of the Iranian nation, ways to reach an agreement will certainly be found,” Pezeshkian said in a post translated from Persian to English shared on X.

“I commend the members of the negotiating team, especially my dear brother Dr. Mohammad Bagher Qalibaf, and say, ‘God gives you strength,’” he added.
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Wow....the door isn't totally closed apparently.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2814 on: April 12, 2026, 10:32:26 pm »
Wow....the door isn't totally closed apparently.

Looks to me like it is.  Good!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2815 on: April 12, 2026, 10:44:53 pm »
Nobody cares about this Iran war. Nobody. You guys are living in your own little bubble.

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This forum is  an island in an ocean of angry voters

American's are watching their standard of living decline under Trump  while many here yell "it's all good!!"

Good luck selling that this year and in 2028




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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2816 on: April 12, 2026, 11:16:55 pm »
So it looks like our team led another sham "negotiation" with a poison pill demand for ZERO enrichment, despite the fact that Iran is a signatory to the NPT.  Because that's what Bibi told them to do. 

Republicans need to lose the midterms.  They represent Fox News boomers, and whoever bribed them in their last campaign.  The rest of us are out of luck.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2817 on: April 12, 2026, 11:24:05 pm »
We all care.

The question is why are you here?

Those of you in the bubble care, yes.

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« Reply #2818 on: April 12, 2026, 11:53:56 pm »
Exactly right.

I do not understand how that can be shrugged off if China deoends upon trade and raw materials to survive

Somehow it's as if people think that their profits and trade surpluses go to private shareholders. The industrial base is completely controlled by the military, which uses them to fund their war machine.

Happy to put a crimp in their ability to fund Iran.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2820 on: April 13, 2026, 12:20:51 am »
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CENTCOM Commander Cooper will travel to Israel tomorrow.



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2821 on: April 13, 2026, 12:24:00 am »
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Iran Update/My Opinion On Where It Is All Going:

After 6 weeks of non stop bombing of Iran by combined Israeli and American strikes conducing tens of thousands of Sorties, significant damage has been done to the Iranian military in particular its air defence capabilities, airforce and navy.

Negotiations have appeared fruitless despite a recent ceasefire due to the incompatibility of two approaches Iran fundamentally is continuing to not give up nuclear enrichment and is now wanting full control over the strait of Hormuz to charge hundreds of billions in shipping fees to fund its military expansionism, I do not see diplomatic solutions working, and see this conflict restarting pretty quickly.

Militarily Iran maintains Its ballistic missile launcher capacities only have being limited by half, the rest have been buried in deep underground complexes and likely are able to be recovered with Iran still posing a threat to the Gulf with remaining capabilities.

In terms of its nuclear programme, this is unfortunately still in tact with a lot of enriched uranium and other enriching sites being hidden deep underground at buried facilities, hard to reach with current munitions available, strikes did manage to assassinate more high level scientists and take out facilities that were involved in enriching uranium but on this side more is too be done. Irans command and control structure initially severely damaged by precision strikes has largely kept intact due to its decentralised nature, Iran is able to continue firing back despite not direct command being available.

Iran has also been able to maintain control over the strait of Hormuz mainly by launching sea based strike drones and shore launched shoot and scoot anti ship missile capacity. Iran has used the recent ceasefire to transfer more manpower and capability to the shores surrounding the straits to better hold it.

Interestingly Iranian key island hubs like Kharg Island have been severely reinforced in anticipation of a US ground raid, but these defences were severely softened up by a large row of target airstrikes.

US forces continue to build massive capacity in the region, including bringing an additional carrier strike group which has reached the med making that three in the region as well as massively building up ground troops, transferring thousands of marines, artillery soldiers, this does suggest that preparations are being made to invade islands around the strait of Hormuz.

Notably over the last few days an uptick in military cargo flights to the Middle East has occurred as well as a renewed arming of strategic bombers which are stationed in RAF FAIRFORD in Britain with tankers damaged in the Middle East being rotated out for undamaged ones from bases on the US Mainland. 

Finally the US navy is moving to secure the strait of Hormuz by blockading Iranian exports, this will be done by frigates and destroyers like actively preventing ships moving from Iranian ports, attempting to economically strangle Iran, if this does not work I think group operations will follow. US navy destroyers yesterday tested this in practise by conducting freedom of navigation runs around the strait likely looking for mines, the conclusion was likely at the moment the strait is just too dangerous to secure actively with ships, much easier would it be to wait for them to leave to seize or board them.

MY OPINION:
I just simply do not see a diplomatic resolution to this conflict at this stage, Iran believes it has the upper hand with its renewed control of the strait of Hormuz it fundamentally is now denying to give up the nuclear weapons and its ballistic programme that started the war in the first place despite all teh strikes on it. The US simply cannot walk away despite its military victories clearly it would not have achieved any of its strategic objectives, this leads me to believe the war will start again with the goal of at least opening the strait of Hormuz.

First the US will strike Iranian energy, in a way to get them to capitulate to non nuclear proliferation, if that does not work they will start interdicting ships, if that does not work I think they will try to seize Kharg Island and maybe other islands around the strait of Hormuz, unfortunately to me diplomacy is Cleary out the window, positions are just way to far away, especially with the new extreme leadership. Washington has to sell a victory to its domestic audience, walking away now would be a fundamental failure, although in some ways it may be a better option considering Iran could drag this war on for months affecting mid term elections in America even. I only see escalation moving forward, I hope I am wrong.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2824 on: April 13, 2026, 12:38:49 am »
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The head of Hezbollah's liaison and coordination unit in the south, Mohammad Maaniyeh, died from injuries sustained during the Israeli raid that targeted the Sayyida Fatima al-Zahra compound in Saida a few days ago.



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2827 on: April 13, 2026, 12:47:02 am »
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Ahmad Vahidi, IRGC chief, on Iranian parliament speaker Ghalibaf:

 “The supreme leader isn’t even buried yet, and yet Ghalibaf is already shaking hands with those who kiIIed him.” -C14



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Prime Minister Netanyahu in southern Lebanon.

"The war continues, including inside the security zone in Lebanon. Our enemies, Iran and the axis of evil, came to destroy us, and now they are fighting for their survival."



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2831 on: April 13, 2026, 03:44:38 am »
So it looks like our team led another sham "negotiation" with a poison pill demand for ZERO enrichment, despite the fact that Iran is a signatory to the NPT.  Because that's what Bibi told them to do. 

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2832 on: April 13, 2026, 05:24:58 am »
Iran’s president signals openness to US deal if Washington shifts approach

Iran’s President Masoud Pezeshkian said Sunday that an agreement with the United States is still a possibility if Washington takes a different stance toward Tehran.

“If the American government abandons its totalitarianism and respects the rights of the Iranian nation, ways to reach an agreement will certainly be found,” Pezeshkian said in a post translated from Persian to English shared on X.

“I commend the members of the negotiating team, especially my dear brother Dr. Mohammad Bagher Qalibaf, and say, ‘God gives you strength,’” he added.
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The problem is that the president is not incharge of the country. It is whoever is the current "supreme leader" and the current head of the IRGC. The President and otehrs can make whatever deal they want, but until the Mullahs and IRGC lay down their weapons nothing will change.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2833 on: April 13, 2026, 06:48:28 am »
Sounds more like bullshit to me.   Just because YOU don't know what he's doing doesn't mean HE doesn't know.  You just can't handle the fact he knows more about what's going on than you do!

So why do you come after me and not the original poster?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2834 on: April 13, 2026, 06:52:42 am »

https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/2043546421165453799

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2835 on: April 13, 2026, 06:55:09 am »
go read it again, this time earlier in the sentence before you spew such nonsense, Mr TDS

You people just hate honest commentary - this place is becoming like TOS. Where you pile on a comment agreeing with another poster, but not the original poster who made the comment you purport to dislike, adding ad hominum attacks for good measure.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2836 on: April 13, 2026, 07:32:14 am »
Trump eyes limited military action against Iran after failed Islamabad talks: report

President Donald Trump is weighing the possibility of restarting limited military strikes on Iran, along with the Strait of Hormuz blockade, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Citing U.S. officials, the outlet said the options are being considered as a way to break the stalemate in peace talks, following the collapse of negotiations in Pakistan.

Officials indicated that a full-scale bombing campaign is less likely, given concerns about further destabilizing the region and Trump’s reluctance to engage in prolonged military conflicts.

The report also noted that Trump could pursue a temporary blockade of the strait while pressuring U.S. allies to take on responsibility for a sustained maritime escort mission in the future.
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So what happened to "unconditional surrender," "regime" change," and "help is coming"?  Trump's goal posts are moving around so fast that nobody knows where to kick the ball.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2837 on: April 13, 2026, 08:28:49 am »
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1/10 The U.S. naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz would cost Iran approximately $276M/day in lost exports and disrupt $159M/day in imports, a combined economic damage of ~$435M/day, or $13B/month.

Over 90% of Iran's $109.7B in annual trade transits the Persian Gulf. Oil/gas accounts for 80% of government export earnings and 23.7% of GDP. Kharg Island alone generates ~$53B/year, or as I noted to @TIME, "$78 billion a year in energy revenue.

2/10 CRUDE OIL: Iran was exporting ~1.5M barrels/day, earning $139M/day at wartime pricing (~$87/barrel), though with minimal proceed repatriation due to banking sanctions. A blockade zeroes this out overnight. Kharg Island, which handles 92% of crude exports, sits deep inside the Gulf with no viable alternative. That's $139M/day, gone.

3/10 PETROCHEMICALS: Iran exported $19.7B in petrochemicals in 9 months of 2024/25, ~$54M/day. Virtually all of it ships through Assaluyeh, Imam Khomeini, and Shahid Rajaee, all inside the blockade zone. No overland route can move these volumes. Another $54M/day, gone.

4/10 NON-OIL EXPORTS: Iran's non-oil trade hit $51.7B in 2025. After subtracting petrochemicals, ~$88M/day in goods (minerals, metals, etc.) flow through Persian Gulf ports. Roughly 90% would be blocked. That's another ~$79M/day in lost revenue.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2838 on: April 13, 2026, 08:46:44 am »
So what happened to "unconditional surrender," "regime" change," and "help is coming"?  Trump's goal posts are moving around so fast that nobody knows where to kick the ball.

You need to dial back the estrogen. You're like a high school cheerleader on PMS.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2839 on: April 13, 2026, 08:49:13 am »
So why do you come after me and not the original poster?

Says the guy who screams and froths 'Russian bot!' on any disagreement about Ukraine.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2840 on: April 13, 2026, 09:07:58 am »
You need to dial back the estrogen. You're like a high school cheerleader on PMS.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2841 on: April 13, 2026, 09:09:15 am »
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1/10 The U.S. naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz would cost Iran approximately $276M/day in lost exports and disrupt $159M/day in imports, a combined economic damage of ~$435M/day, or $13B/month.

Over 90% of Iran's $109.7B in annual trade transits the Persian Gulf. Oil/gas accounts for 80% of government export earnings and 23.7% of GDP. Kharg Island alone generates ~$53B/year, or as I noted to @TIME, "$78 billion a year in energy revenue.

2/10 CRUDE OIL: Iran was exporting ~1.5M barrels/day, earning $139M/day at wartime pricing (~$87/barrel), though with minimal proceed repatriation due to banking sanctions. A blockade zeroes this out overnight. Kharg Island, which handles 92% of crude exports, sits deep inside the Gulf with no viable alternative. That's $139M/day, gone.

3/10 PETROCHEMICALS: Iran exported $19.7B in petrochemicals in 9 months of 2024/25, ~$54M/day. Virtually all of it ships through Assaluyeh, Imam Khomeini, and Shahid Rajaee, all inside the blockade zone. No overland route can move these volumes. Another $54M/day, gone.

4/10 NON-OIL EXPORTS: Iran's non-oil trade hit $51.7B in 2025. After subtracting petrochemicals, ~$88M/day in goods (minerals, metals, etc.) flow through Persian Gulf ports. Roughly 90% would be blocked. That's another ~$79M/day in lost revenue.

<..snip..>

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2043456536454836467.html

I think this is a pretty good summation myself.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2842 on: April 13, 2026, 09:12:14 am »
Oil prices surged past $100 on Monday as the market reacts to President Donald Trump's order to blockade the Strait of Hormuz.

FOX Business' Taylor Riggs predicted that Americans may be in for some "pain at the pump" in the short term, but argued it is necessary to prevent a nuclear Iran.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2843 on: April 13, 2026, 09:13:39 am »
Please keep the discussions civil.... tipping hat!!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2844 on: April 13, 2026, 09:16:10 am »
Oil prices surged past $100 on Monday as the market reacts to President Donald Trump's order to blockade the Strait of Hormuz.

FOX Business' Taylor Riggs predicted that Americans may be in for some "pain at the pump" in the short term, but argued it is necessary to prevent a nuclear Iran.
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That's my take as well. If I have to face a little pain at the pump in order to get rid of the Arab bastards currently running things in Persia so be it!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2845 on: April 13, 2026, 09:23:17 am »
That's my take as well. If I have to face a little pain at the pump in order to get rid of the Arab bastards currently running things in Persia so be it!

I was extremely hesitant walking into this because of foreign entanglements and our record of useless wars, but now that we're into it and and have ripped the mask off, we have to eliminate their leadership mafia style.

They will never ever stop trying to make nukes, slaughter their people, eradicate Israel, acquire long range ICBM's to bomb the US, and put the whole Middle East under their boot as Russia's proxy.

Keeping them around is inviting a true WWIII. Our choices at this point are limited.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2846 on: April 13, 2026, 09:24:44 am »
I was extremely hesitant walking into this because of foreign entanglements and our record of useless wars, but now that we're into it and and have ripped the mask off, we have to eliminate their leadership mafia style.

They will never ever stop trying to make nukes, slaughter their people, eradicate Israel, acquire long range ICBM's to bomb the US, and put the whole Middle East under their boot as Russia's proxy.

Keeping them around is inviting a true WWIII. Our choices at this point are limited.

 :yowsa: Exactly so! The long-term benefits far outweigh the short-term cost.
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« Reply #2847 on: April 13, 2026, 09:46:18 am »
Their unwillingness to stop pursuing nuclear weapons likely means they are very close to their goal and are just buying time to complete them.

Will they test it within Iran underground as a demonstration or will the test it on an enemy? It looks like that is where this is going.

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