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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1600 on: Today at 04:40:18 pm »
As somebody else here suggested recently: "They've got the Bomb"
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1602 on: Today at 04:54:51 pm »
Trump Vows to Hunt Down, Jail Leaker Who Endangered Missing F-15 Pilot by Tipping Off Iran

https://redstate.com/rusty-weiss/2026/04/06/trump-vows-to-hunt-down-jail-leaker-who-endangered-missing-f-15-pilot-by-tipping-off-iran-n2201013

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President Trump vowed to hunt down and jail the leaker who revealed that U.S. forces could not initially reach the second American crew member of an F-15 fighter jet shot down over Iran.

Speaking in the White House briefing room on Monday, a clearly perturbed Commander in Chief declared that the media's disclosure tipped off Tehran and directly endangered the airman’s life. Not to mention the lives of hundreds of troops searching for the missing crew member.

“We’re looking very hard to find that leaker,” he said. “They basically said that we have one, and there’s somebody missing. Well, [Iran] didn’t know there was somebody missing until this leaker gave the information.”

The President indicated he would pressure the media outlet that published the story to reveal their sources.

“We think we’ll be able to find it out,” Trump continued. “Because we’re going to go to the media company that released it, and we’re going to say, ‘National security. Give it up or go to jail.’”

The leak, first reported by Israel’s Channel 12 and quickly picked up by U.S. outlets including Axios and the Washington Post, came as the wounded second crew member was fighting for his life behind enemy lines.

The information prompted a race between our military heroes and the terrorist regime.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1603 on: Today at 05:02:46 pm »

https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/2041238777616622032
This is the problem fighting a fanatical Death Cult. These guys WANT TO DIE. Death is an honor to them.
They never consider themselves 'defeated' in the normal sane way. You cannot reason with a death cult.
They are only 'defeated' when they die, hopefully taking as many people with them as they can.
The only way to defeat them is to kill them.
Sometimes, the enemy of my enemy, is also my enemy.
Islam sanitizes oppression. Islam rebrands cruelty as culture, and expects applause from Liberal fools for their Islamic progressivism.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1604 on: Today at 05:04:02 pm »
You forgot Jimmy Carter abandoning the Americans in Iran when the embassy fell.

And yeah, his equally worthless Secretary of State Christopher Warren was pushing for a diplomacy only resolution. 

Delta Force founder Charlie Beckwith recalled in his book that when he was briefing Carter on the Eagle Claw plan, Warren actually asked him if his operators were going to shoot the Iranian guards in their arms and legs.  Appalled by Warren's naivety and stupidity, Beckwith told him, no, that his men were going to double-tap any Iranian who got in their way right between the eyes.  Warren shut up after that, but his weak mindset reflected everything that was wrong with the Carter Administration.

Fast forward to the 00:18:00 mark for that part of the story:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BMrjpTbhnI
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« Reply #1605 on: Today at 05:08:25 pm »
This is the problem fighting a fanatical Death Cult. These guys WANT TO DIE. Death is an honor to them.
They never consider themselves 'defeated' in the normal sane way. You cannot reason with a death cult.
They are only 'defeated' when they die, hopefully taking as many people with them as they can.
The only way to defeat them is to kill them.

Gnawing feeling, you're right.  Hope and pray they don't use whatever enriched uranium they might
possess to destroy themselves and the oil fields throughout the Middle East.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1606 on: Today at 05:14:39 pm »
I think NATO is over. It is not that Trump is pulling the U.S. out of NATO. It is more accurate to say that Western Europe has dissolved NATO on their own. Europe essentially in every functional practical way, withdrew themselves from NATO.

Accurate.  Not participating in the war is one thing, albeit aggravating, but backstabbing the U.S. and actively impeding military combat and logistical operations is a whole different ball game.

NATO's done once Trump is finished with Iran.
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« Reply #1607 on: Today at 05:17:12 pm »
Those USAF tankers should have overflown Spain and France anyway, with armed F-22 escorts, and dare Sanchez and Macron to do anything about it.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1609 on: Today at 05:41:47 pm »
That guy is probably not long for this world.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1610 on: Today at 05:43:11 pm »
As somebody else here suggested recently: "They've got the Bomb"

Use it or lose it. 
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« Reply #1611 on: Today at 05:47:00 pm »
Those USAF tankers should have overflown Spain and France anyway, with armed F-22 escorts, and dare Sanchez and Macron to do anything about it.

I agree.  What are they gonna do?  Send up fighters to shoot us down?  Send  a strongly worded letter and convene a UN concise to complain.

F'em. 
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1612 on: Today at 05:47:20 pm »
Trump Vows to Hunt Down, Jail Leaker Who Endangered Missing F-15 Pilot by Tipping Off Iran

https://redstate.com/rusty-weiss/2026/04/06/trump-vows-to-hunt-down-jail-leaker-who-endangered-missing-f-15-pilot-by-tipping-off-iran-n2201013

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Jail them my fanny. At one time leaking this info would be considered treason. At one time that punishment involved a rope.

So some yahoo reporter decided to talk to make a story. Both he and his source should be forced to tie their own knots. It would be interesting to see who turns on who first as they walk to the gallows.

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« Reply #1613 on: Today at 05:53:30 pm »

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/2041222478303760488



OK...stupid question. Isn't Iran primarily desert? How many bridges can they have?

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OK...stupid question. Isn't Iran primarily desert? How many bridges can they have?
Iran has approximately 300,000 bridges
Iran does not have a single, definitive count of all its rivers, but the country's hydrology is characterized by approximately 12 major river basins and a vast network of seasonal and permanent streams.  Most of these rivers originate in the Zagros and Alborz mountain ranges and drain into the Persian Gulf, Caspian Sea, or internal basins.

Key facts about Iran's river system include:

Major Basins: The country's water is divided into six major basins, including the Central Plateau (largest), Persian Gulf and Gulf of Oman, Caspian Sea, Lake Urmia, Eastern Borders, and Qareh Qum.
River Types: The majority of Iranian rivers are seasonal, with flows peaking in spring from snowmelt and diminishing significantly in summer, though permanent streams exist in the northern and western margins.
Notable Rivers: The Karun River is the longest river entirely within Iran (950 km or 590 miles) and the only permanently navigable waterway, while the Aras River is the longest overall (666 miles) as it flows through multiple countries.
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« Reply #1617 on: Today at 06:08:06 pm »
You forgot Jimmy Carter abandoning the Americans in Iran when the embassy fell.



I didn't. Jimmah was a weakling. As I recall Ross Perot got his people out.

I have been somewhat ambivalent about DJT. But this has moved him up in my estimation.

I don't think it's a bad thing to fear us. Along with beating China to the moon he's done some great things. I thought the MAGA thing was just a campaign slogan. Sounds like to me he means it.









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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1619 on: Today at 06:10:14 pm »
From reply 1516 above:
"Some of these massive missile bunkers are buried deep within granite mountains that can withstand crushing pressures far beyond those that conventional construction materials can withstand.
This material puts up the toughest barrier possible for even the most powerful American bunker-busting bomb – the GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator."


Serious question:
Will they withstand one or more B-61's ??

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OK...stupid question. Isn't Iran primarily desert? How many bridges can they have?
Even in desert climates there are bridges.  Iran is a highly complex area geologically, so there are mountains and it's pretty rugged.  I'd guess there are bridges everywhere, not necessarily over flowing streams though.

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Jail them my fanny. At one time leaking this info would be considered treason. At one time that punishment involved a rope.

So some yahoo reporter decided to talk to make a story. Both he and his source should be forced to tie their own knots. It would be interesting to see who turns on who first as they walk to the gallows.
Would never hang a reporter.

Only reason to jail him is to get who the inside man was who committed treason by letting the press know.

That is the person who would hang
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« Reply #1623 on: Today at 06:20:39 pm »
Oh crap....I never even thought they'd do this.

Probably drove thru streets with loudspeakers demanding everybody under a certain age to show up or else.
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« Reply #1624 on: Today at 06:24:33 pm »
Oh crap....I never even thought they'd do this.

Big tough jihadists literally hiding behind women and children, what cowards.

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« Reply #1625 on: Today at 06:29:15 pm »
Even in desert climates there are bridges.  Iran is a highly complex area geologically, so there are mountains and it's pretty rugged.  I'd guess there are bridges everywhere, not necessarily over flowing streams though.


I hadn't thought of that. You are correct.  :laugh:

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I didn't. Jimmah was a weakling. As I recall Ross Perot got his people out.

I have been somewhat ambivalent about DJT. But this has moved him up in my estimation.

I don't think it's a bad thing to fear us. Along with beating China to the moon he's done some great things. I thought the MAGA thing was just a campaign slogan. Sounds like to me he means it.

What isn't being reported IIRC Iran has threatened that they are going to do something that the world has never seen. Someone mentioned that it is probable that Iran has at least one nuke (if not more).

So .... it's a race to see who pulls the 'trigger' first.

One thing is for certain and I believe Iran now knows for sure, Trump is NOT bluffing.  He's given them ample warning and time. 

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« Reply #1627 on: Today at 06:33:50 pm »
Oh crap....I never even thought they'd do this.

Really? I'm not surprised at all.  The Iranians ran children over minefields to clear mines.  They sent them into battle armed with plastic keys to paradise during the war with Iraq.  Nothing is cruel enough to surprise me.
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« Reply #1628 on: Today at 06:38:35 pm »
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🚨 HOLY CRAP. Iranian state TV is now calling on Iranian children to surge to power plants so they can be HUMAN SHIELDS against President Trump

Students, youth, and almost everyone is invited to shield key infrastructure tomorrow

This right here proves that they don't believe in the religious bullshit that they impose on everyone else.  If they believed what they preach, then these IRGC leaders would be embracing the opportunity to martyr themselves by protecting these targets with their own bodies, all in service to their god.  But they don't.  Instead, they hide deep in their bunkers out of harms way while enticing children to be martyrs instead.
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BREAKING: Iran has delivered its highly anticipated "10-point" response to the US' "15-point peace plan."

Iran's 10-point plan includes:

1. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again
2. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire
3. End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon
4. Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran
5. End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies
6. In return, Iran would open the Strait of Hormuz
7. Iran would impose a Hormuz fee of $2 million per ship
8. Iran would split these fees with Oman
9. Iran to provide rules for safe passage through Hormuz
10. Iran to use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations

President Trump's "deadline" for a peace deal with Iran is 25 hours away.
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« Reply #1632 on: Today at 07:30:25 pm »
Easy answer: Eliminate the entire IRGC. They will not "deal" and any "deal" made they will not honor. The IRGC will continue to pursue nuclear weapons, delivery systems with intent to use them. They are the hardcore religious fanatics who will do what it takes to bring about Armageddon.
Right. Wipe out or drive out the 12ers. They cannot be left with access to power in Iran, nor funding to exert power anywhere else. Make them a minor and powerless sect. The more who are left, though, the more likely they will continue with acts of terrorism directly or by proxy.
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« Reply #1633 on: Today at 07:40:11 pm »
Candace Owens, :silly: .

Reports I've seen indicate that the US and Israel had several hundred on the ground for a mini-war in which the WSO was rescued and up to 1500 IRGC, etc. men were killed. Even if you cut that estimate to 1/10, the IRGC didn't dover themselves with glory.
But I bet there is a heck of a line at the virgin corral...
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« Reply #1634 on: Today at 07:43:56 pm »

They're RUSHING to get rearmed.
Exactly. Typical 'negotiate' while rearming, redeploying, and digging out missile complex tunnels sort of gambit.
Don't let them catch their breath.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1635 on: Today at 07:45:33 pm »
But I bet there is a heck of a line at the virgin corral...

IF they did indeed that many men, right about now, they're suicidal.

You cannot reason with suicidal religious fanatics.
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If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1636 on: Today at 07:48:32 pm »
Iran 'is digging out bombed underground missile bunkers and reusing them within hours'

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By TARYN KAUR PEDLER
6 April 2026

Iran is rapidly restoring its missile bunkers to working order just hours after they are pounded by US and Israeli strikes, according to fresh intelligence assessments.

The White House has pointed to a drop in Iranian drone and missile launches since the conflict erupted as evidence that Tehran's strike capabilities are being crippled.

But a newly published US intelligence report cited by The New York Times suggests otherwise, indicating the regime still possesses a substantial arsenal and is swiftly repairing damaged sites. 

Some of these massive missile bunkers are buried deep within granite mountains that can withstand crushing pressures far beyond those that conventional construction materials can withstand.

This material puts up the toughest barrier possible for even the most powerful American bunker-busting bomb – the GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator.

One of these fortresses, the Yazd missile base, is thought to possess an automated rail system that runs through tunnels linking assembly areas, storage depots, and multiple concealed exits cut into different faces of the mountain.

In similar underground missile cities seen in Iranian propaganda videos, launchers are moved around rapidly on lorries, rolled out to fire, and withdrawn back underground behind heavy armoured doors in the blink of an eye.

Despite weeks of relentless US-Israeli strikes on its facilities, Iran is somehow still able to unleash its hidden arsenal of rockets and drones at targets across the Middle East.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15709191/Iran-digging-bombed-underground-missile-bunkers-reusing-hours.html


I doubt the 'within hours' part, but it is Daily Mail so hyperbole is their slogan.
So target the GBU 57s where they will do the most, deepest damage to reduce the ability of the enemy to dig out. Everything outward from the penetration will be a shambles or destroyed. Let the deepest parts of the facility become a tomb.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1637 on: Today at 07:51:40 pm »
So target the GBU 57s where they will do the most, deepest damage to reduce the ability of the enemy to dig out. Everything outward from the penetration will be a shambles or destroyed. Let the deepest parts of the facility become a tomb.
How about making the area slightly radioactive so they can't go back in.   :laugh:

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1638 on: Today at 07:54:41 pm »
How about making the area slightly radioactive so they can't go back in.   :laugh:

Now there is an option.  A low yield nuke. would be a deterrent.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1639 on: Today at 07:56:27 pm »
Over the years you have said a number of genius level incredibly accurate comments. This  pointing-up is among the top five. Muslims can never be trusted when they are "dealing with non Muslims.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/373552364_9_DECEPTIONS_IN_ISLAM

9 DECEPTIONS IN ISLAM

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Islam employs 9 types of deceptions to destroy non-Muslims: Taqiya, Hiyal, Adab al jadal, dawah, kitman, tafsir, darura, and muruna. According to sharia, in certain situations, deception – also known as 'taqiyya', based on Quranic terminology, – is not only permitted but sometimes obligatory.
The sole function of the "peace-treaty" (hudna) is to buy weakened Muslims time to regroup for a renewed offensive ...
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Muhammad is quoted in the Hadith saying: "If I take an oath and later find something else better, I do what is better and break my oath (see Sahih Bukhari V7B67N427)
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1640 on: Today at 08:07:32 pm »

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2041209280683208849
There is 7 1/2 hours difference between local time in Iran and Washington D.C., which reflects the difference in daylight hours in the respective locations.

Having worked across just two hours' difference, that would play heck with interfacing with the 9-5 D.C. set and being on top of what's happening over in Iran.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #1641 on: Today at 08:09:26 pm »
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Wow. POTUS says the airman treated his own wounds in the mountains while he waited for rescue. Hero.
Well, duh. It's that or bleed.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
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BREAKING: Iran has delivered its highly anticipated "10-point" response to the US' "15-point peace plan."

Iran's 10-point plan includes:

1. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again
2. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire
3. End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon

After 47 years in a continuous state of war against the US, they demand that we guarantee we won't attack them?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
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Bring the pain. 
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
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IRGC Colonel Mohammad Salehi Barshne, IRGC Colonel Kazem Karimi, IRGC Major Hamid Keshavarz Ardakani, Basiji Ahmad Karami Kamhari, Basiji Sadegh Eskandari Kamhari, and Basiji Hossein Eskandari Kamhari were killed in Sepidan city.



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U.S. Congresswoman Yassamin Ansari (D-AZ) says she will be introducing articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth.

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Trump is escalating a devastating, illegal war, threatening massive war crimes and targeting civilian infrastructure in Iran. In the last 48 hours alone, the rhetoric has crossed every line. Pete Hegseth is complicit.

I’ve called for the 25th Amendment and am introducing x.com/macfarlanenews…

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U.S. Congresswoman Yassamin Ansari (D-AZ) says she will b ymmve introducing articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth.

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