Jerome Powell just left interest rates UNCHANGED, bucking President Trump

[andy58-in-nh]

A lot of truth to what you're saying, though rather than calling it fighting I would rather hope that it's simply debating politics.

@libertybele

I think you're a good soul, and I would hope so, too. But there is a difference between lively debate and personal attacks.

I believe that America is facing an existential threat that we have denied for too long. Others may disagree, which is fine, but I expect reasons and not conspiracy theories (Tucker) and unfounded accusations (Candace). Let's leave those for the Left to marinate in, instead.

[Cyber Liberty]

@libertybele

I think you're a good soul, and I would hope so, too. But there is a difference between lively debate and personal attacks.

I believe that America is facing an existential threat that we have denied for too long. Others may disagree, which is fine, but I expect reasons and not conspiracy theories (Tucker) and unfounded accusations (Candace). Let's leave those for the Left to marinate in, instead.

I have always thought of Iran as existential threat after the 1979 Revolution, but I was told at the time that "Death to America!" was just dogma.  In the back of my mind I knew better, but hoped for the best.  It is little comfort that I turned out to be right, but I was barely 21 at the time and I assumed the older Newscaster I knew  had more wisdom than I.

[Kamaji]

Since our government is going to shift further left over the years, I’ll mock those who helped bring that about

Many of us tried to keep this idiot from getting the nomination. The GOP had better choices but they preferred the circus

And being rude and obnoxious here moves the ball forward how?

[roamer_1]

I can't imagine why the Marxists and Islamists think they're going to win. Oh. Look at this thread. They know that conservatives are now focused on fighting with each other rather than with them.

Next time, elect a Conservative.

[roamer_1]

We are at war.  Wars cost money.  Congress holds the purse strings and should create what is called a 'budget' and they haven't. 

Whether the GOP remains in power or not isn't going to resolve our financial woes.  They will become worse under both parties; it's just the left is much more radical and that is truly worrisome.  Mid-terms are just around the corner. Socialism and Muslim takeover is around that corner as well should the DEMS get in.  We're seeing it in NJ, NY and MI.

No. It isn't the war. He's a big government guy. Knew it all along. And he's outspending the Democrats. That should be an embarrassment.

And the Dems WILL get in. That's a foregone conclusion. And they will take over the big beautiful government he's left them.

[roamer_1]

I have always thought of Iran as existential threat after the 1979 Revolution, but I was told at the time that "Death to America!" was just dogma.  In the back of my mind I knew better, but hoped for the best.  It is little comfort that I turned out to be right, but I was barely 21 at the time and I assumed the older Newscaster I knew  had more wisdom than I.

It's all about the freakin Benjamins. THAT is the existential threat, writ large. Nothing else comes close.

[andy58-in-nh]

Next time, elect a Conservative.

There were ONLY two choices in 2024: Donald Trump, a moderate conservative, and Kamala Harris, a radical leftist. 

The GOP might have nominated a limited government/free market advocate, but no one else was running who had a serious chance at winning. That's the way it works.

There's no perfect candidate. The Left is united, highly organized, and votes in lockstep. The Right is fractious, poorly organized and depends on compromise and coalitions.  It's not the world we'd like, but it's the one we've got. 

Would America be better off, or worse off if Harris had been elected? That's the only question that matters, because the choice is binary under our current political structure, whether one likes it or not.   

[Cyber Liberty]

It's all about the freakin Benjamins. THAT is the existential threat, writ large. Nothing else comes close.

The Mullahs only care about the Benjamins to the extent that they can buy weapons to kill unbelievers, and O'Bastard/Biteme sent them to the Mullahs by the pallets.

[Hoodat]

There were ONLY two choices in 2024: Donald Trump, a moderate conservative, and Kamala Harris, a radical leftist.

The only two choices in 2024:

1.  Republicans who spend like Democrats

2.  Democrats who spend like Democrats


Y'all can bitch and moan about Trump, but you already knew who he was when he announced his candidacy in 2015. 
But none of this matters while our Republican House and Republican Senate continue to spend $2 TRILLION MORE each year than they collect in taxes, and do so by increasing the money supply like Robert Mugabe just so all the Obama/Biden free-shit train won't be cut.

[Bigun]

There were ONLY two choices in 2024: Donald Trump, a moderate conservative, and Kamala Harris, a radical leftist. 

The GOP might have nominated a limited government/free market advocate, but no one else was running who had a serious chance at winning. That's the way it works.

There's no perfect candidate. The Left is united, highly organized, and votes in lockstep. The Right is fractious, poorly organized and depends on compromise and coalitions.  It's not the world we'd like, but it's the one we've got. 

Would America be better off, or worse off if Harris had been elected? That's the only question that matters, because the choice is binary under our current political structure, whether one likes it or not.

Once we get to the general election, yes! I agree with you, @andy58-in-nh  but conservatives need to pay much more attention to who we nominate at all levels.

[Hoodat]

I'm glad you're back, @LMAO

[roamer_1]

There were ONLY two choices in 2024: Donald Trump, a moderate conservative, and Kamala Harris, a radical leftist. 

The funny part there is calling Tumpy a moderate anything. 
And no, he is not conservative. But as to the meat of it, there are at least three choices in any given election, because abstention is a choice too, as well as any 3rd party candidates that may increase your choices. So no, it is never binary.

The GOP might have nominated a limited government/free market advocate, but no one else was running who had a serious chance at winning. That's the way it works.

Fine. When they do I'll vote for him.

There's no perfect candidate. The Left is united, highly organized, and votes in lockstep. The Right is fractious, poorly organized and depends on compromise and coalitions.  It's not the world we'd like, but it's the one we've got. 

Not looking for perfect... If this is as close as y'all can get, you don't deserve my vote.

Would America be better off, or worse off if Harris had been elected? That's the only question that matters, because the choice is binary under our current political structure, whether one likes it or not.

I don't know that answer. It may well have been cheaper. Now, I know he's giving all y'all all your shiny shit. I know you'd have never got that with a democrat. So I see why y'all might think differently. 

[roamer_1]

The Mullahs only care about the Benjamins to the extent that they can buy weapons to kill unbelievers, and O'Bastard/Biteme sent them to the Mullahs by the pallets.

I don't care about the Mullahs.

[Bigun]

I don't care about the Mullahs.

And THAT is a problem because they sure as hell care about YOU!

[Cyber Liberty]

I don't care about the Mullahs.

I wouldn't care either, if they didn't have a blood lust to kill us all, but they do.  So I choose them first.  They are proving out my original assumptions as we speak.

[catfish1957]

I wouldn't care either, if they didn't have a blood lust to kill us all, but they do.  So I choose them first.  They are proving out my original assumptions as we speak.

Funny he said that considering the possible Iranian strike of Diego Garcia.  Seems the Mullahs have been sandbagging on their capabilities.

And considering they are acting like rabid dogs right now?  He may be up in the great white north of the USA, but I'd bet we have ICBMS within 500 miles of his residence.

[Cyber Liberty]

Funny he said that considering the possible Iranian strike of Diego Garcia.  Seems the Mullahs have been sandbagging on their capabilities.

And considering they are acting like rabid dogs right now?  He may be up in the great white north of the USA, but I'd bet we have ICBMS within 500 miles of his residence.

I don't know that the Iranians have previously unknown range capabilities.  The missile they lobbed in the direction of Diego Garcia didn't get there.  It's likely it just fell into the Indian Ocean.  They may just be trying to make us think they have longer range missiles.  Since we're destroying them on the ground wholesale I would think we'd have seen them long before now. 

Consider the principle of "Use them or lose them."

[libertybele]

Funny he said that considering the possible Iranian strike of Diego Garcia.  Seems the Mullahs have been sandbagging on their capabilities.

And considering they are acting like rabid dogs right now?  He may be up in the great white north of the USA, but I'd bet we have ICBMS within 500 miles of his residence.

I agree.  I believe Iran's military capabilities/resistance has been grossly underestimated. 

[catfish1957]

I don't know that the Iranians have previously unknown range capabilities.  The missile they lobbed in the direction of Diego Garcia didn't get there.  It's likely it just fell into the Indian Ocean.  They may just be trying to make us think they have longer range missiles.  Since we're destroying them on the ground wholesale I would think we'd have seen them long before now. 

Consider the principle of "Use them or lose them."

Make good points, except I am seeing Tom Cotton substantiating the threat, and he's been a good and accurate on these matters. 
https://x.com/SenTomCotton/status/2035387806743167333?s=20

[roamer_1]

And THAT is a problem because they sure as hell care about YOU!

I forget... How many times have we gone over there to kick their shaggy asses back to the stone age and didn't get it done? And why should I believe that this time will be any different?

That's why I don't care about the Mullahs.

[roamer_1]

I wouldn't care either, if they didn't have a blood lust to kill us all, but they do.  So I choose them first.  They are proving out my original assumptions as we speak.

Yeah, well... Our effectiveness at returning the favor always leaves the same folks in charge, with a deeper, more malevolent hate than before.
This method seems to be counter productive. We'll see how it ends.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yeah, well... Our effectiveness at returning the favor always leaves the same folks in charge, with a deeper, more malevolent hate than before.
This method seems to be counter productive. We'll see how it ends.

If this leads to "Nation Building," I will 100% change my mind about it!  That leads straight to Quagmire, every time, without fail!

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Yeah, well... Our effectiveness at returning the favor always leaves the same folks in charge, with a deeper, more malevolent hate than before.
This method seems to be counter productive. We'll see how it ends.

Absolutely. Anyone pointing to Iraq or Afghanistan as success stories today?

[Cyber Liberty]

Absolutely. Anyone pointing to Iraq or Afghanistan as success stories today?

Not me!  Those interventions led to nation building, which Dumbya promised never to do!  And that led straight to two terms of O'Bastard...

[catfish1957]

Not me!  Those interventions led to nation building, which Dumbya promised never to do!  And that led straight to two terms of O'Bastard...

Same exact sentiment.  Let's clean up over there , and get the hell out.  Considering we have gone almost 100% domestic on oil, lets turn it over, and say this is one time final mop up offer on aisle 5. 

Then let the EU, Far East, and the Gulf States police themselves. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Same exact sentiment.  Let's clean up over there , and get the hell out.  Considering we have gone almost 100% domestic on oil, lets turn it over, and say this is one time final mop up offer on aisle 5. 

Then let the EU, Far East, and the Gulf States police themselves.

Interesting.  Trying to post the Thumbs Up emoji gave me that 503 error in three attempts!

 

[Cyber Liberty]

Same exact sentiment.  Let's clean up over there , and get the hell out.  Considering we have gone almost 100% domestic on oil, lets turn it over, and say this is one time final mop up offer on aisle 5. 

Then let the EU, Far East, and the Gulf States police themselves.