LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two

[mystery-ak]

FWIW: There is still a 2-3 week air campaign left to hit all the military targets identified prior to the start.

I wonder if that is still ongoing and it's just the power plants?

What is Israel saying about this?

So many questions

[Timber Rattler]

I didn't realize JD and Carlson are buddies.

Oh yeah, birds of a feather...

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/16/us/politics/tucker-carlson-jd-vance-trump.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/jd-vance-defends-tucker-carlson-again-2024-9

https://www.silive.com/politics/2026/02/disgraceful-jd-vance-excoriated-by-maga-right-wing-after-praising-polarizing-commentator.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/09/05/jd-vance-tucker-carlson/

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/jW3PpFrfPEc

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/jVrYCxzW68s

[mystery-ak]

Fox reporting that the 82nd Airborne are in theater

[Timber Rattler]

I don't think Trump called him that...

Yeah, I have no doubt that Trump said it.  "Loser" is one of his favorite put-downs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stJZb2KJiVg

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/2036055445714927977

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/Afri_hubb/status/2036056246256546204

[Cyber Liberty]

FWIW: There is still a 2-3 week air campaign left to hit all the military targets identified prior to the start.

Meanwhile, he just taught what's left of the Iranian regime he'll back down in the face of a threat.  Trump just traded an action for a promise.  we'll see if he makes use of that 2-3 weeks.  If the air strikes slow down, then Trump is giving up.

[libertybele]

I wonder what Hegseth and Rubio think of Trump's turnabout?

Which one will resign first?   

[Kamaji]

Maybe Trump realized - after he opened his big fat mouth - that blowing up Iran’s power plants would do more harm to the civilian population than to the regime itself.  Given that realization, he had to find some face-saving way of walking back the threat. 

The perils of speaking before thinking it through - a classic Trump vice.

[Cyber Liberty]

I'm taking the word of 47  who called him a loser on multiple occasions as seen in TV interviews. Deal with it.

It doesn't matter, Trump gave up the initiative. 

[Timber Rattler]

What happened could have been very generous offers of real estate and natural resources ...

That's what I think.  Witkoff and Kushner are always hot for multi-billion real estate deals, no matter who they have to backstab or throw under the bus to get them.

There is something odd about anyone who would talk about unconditional surrender, protecting the Iranian people, encouraging a people's revolt, mention a regime being evil, the 30K plus murdered citizens ... and then talk about a very good negotiation with the same regime ... while calling a legitimate anti-Mullah Iranian leader a loser.

Right!  The incongruence is appalling.

[mystery-ak]

Mossad Commentary
@MOSSADil
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45m
🚨 NEW: Sources report that Washington kept Israel informed of its talks with Tehran regarding a potential reduction in hostilities, and Israel is expected to align with the U.S. decision to suspend planned strikes on Iranian power plants and energy infrastructure amid ongoing diplomatic contacts.

This follows President Trump’s announcement of a five‑day postponement of U.S. attacks on Iranian facilities based on “very good and productive conversations,” while high‑level indirect dialogue continues.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yeah, I have no doubt that Trump said it.  "Loser" is one of his favorite put-downs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stJZb2KJiVg

That's too bad, for the Iranian people. 

[240B]

The entire world can change in 5 days, or 1 day, or in a single hour.
Even if Trump says 5 days, he could change his mind at any time.

This does seem very suspect, but Trump's team are not fools.
And, this so called 'pause' does not apply directly to Israel.

Whatever is happening is happening for some reason (which we do not know).
I am forced to believe that Trump and his team have some beneficial plan in mind.
Comparing the Trump admin to Bush or Obama or Biden is utterly ridiculous.
I will be patient and see this play out before I condemn or become discouraged.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/2036054746176364858

[bigheadfred]

Dr. Mehrdad Ashabi
@Medinfo_X
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1h
Translated from Persian
Trump's shift in tone from "regime" to "the country of Iran" (THE COUNTRY OF IRAN) in his latest tweet is no coincidence. When he speaks of "constructive dialogue" while the Islamic Republic categorically denies any negotiations, it means the seat across the table in Washington doesn't belong to the current officials.

What's fascinating is that the order to halt attacks on power plants aligns precisely with Prince Reza Pahlavi's recent request (protecting national infrastructure and focusing on the hard core of power). This five-day pause in attacks carries the scent of an agreement with alternative forces and the opposition.

[DCPatriot]

They weren't tapping out.  They were threatening to kill the water supplies of Saudi Arabia, Oman, UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait, i.e. the gigantic desalination plants that allow those countries to thrive despite the desert.

They're finished militarily @Timber Rattler

That's WHY they were threatening to kill the water supplies of the aforementioned.

So...what's the problem with waiting "5 more days" to figure out how to ensure the desalinization plants aren't destroyed?

[bigheadfred]

https://twitter.com/Tarikh_Eran/status/2036061907824644378

[bigheadfred]

Israeli Air Force
@IAFsite
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1h
Translated from Hebrew
The Air Force has begun, a short while ago, another wave of strikes targeting infrastructure of the Iranian terror regime across Tehran.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2036070086365052991

[DCPatriot]

The entire world can change in 5 days, or 1 day, or in a single hour.
Even if Trump says 5 days, he could change his mind at any time.

This does seem very suspect, but Trump's team are not fools.
And, this so called 'pause' does not apply directly to Israel.

Whatever is happening is happening for some reason (which we do not know).
I am forced to believe that Trump and his team have some beneficial plan in mind.
Comparing the Trump admin to Bush or Obama or Biden is utterly ridiculous.
I will be patient and see this play out before I condemn or become discouraged.

 

[bigheadfred]

The Kobeissi Letter
@KobeissiLetter
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51m
BREAKING: US oil prices collapse below $89/barrel after Axios reports that Turkey, Egypt, and Pakistan have been "passing messages" between the US and Iran.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/2036065621058707872

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/Atlasdailyy/status/2036065970075144234

[bigheadfred]

Open Source Intel
@Osint613
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1h
Iranian Major General Abdollahi:

“The use of a new, secret weapon will begin soon and it will bring an end to the enemy’s operations.”

[Cyber Liberty]

A "negotiated settlement" is the worst possible outcome of this war.   

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/2036071120823038233

[Wingnut]

Open Source Intel
@Osint613
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1h
Iranian Major General Abdollahi:

“The use of a new, secret weapon will begin soon and it will bring an end to the enemy’s operations.”

Marvin the Martian talk.  Where is the big KaBoom?

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/2036036933034332251

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2036076252033916936

[bigheadfred]

War Monitor
@WarMonitors
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1h
⚡#BREAKING Trump to CNBC after his announcement: What's happening now in Iran can be described as regime change

[American Girl]

Excerpt:
You know that frustrating moment when President Trump extends an olive branch for real peace talks — and our so-called ally immediately torches the table? That’s exactly what just unfolded in the Middle East.

Trump flipped the script and showed strength plus diplomacy can work together. He announced major progress with Iran after “very good and productive conversations” over the last two days. To give diplomacy a genuine window, he instructed the Department of War to postpone **all** planned strikes on Iranian power plants and energy infrastructure for a full five-day period.




Israel is doing something Trump doesn't want them to do. They always do that. They need to listen to POTUS!


https://www.usasupreme.com/president-trump-says-peace-with-iran-is-advancing-rapidly-heres-what-the-israelis-did-moments-after-to-destroy-the-negotiations-in-turn-weaken-our-ability-to-negotiate/

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2036077503203184995

[catfish1957]

Open Source Intel
@Osint613
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1h
Iranian Major General Abdollahi:

“The use of a new, secret weapon will begin soon and it will bring an end to the enemy’s operations.”

And you waited until Day 24 to deploy it? 

[bigheadfred]

Mohamad Ahwaze
@MohamadAhwaze
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1h
Translated from Arabic
Urgent | Intense and widespread shelling across Tehran now. What an armistice.

[mystery-ak]

Dr. Mehrdad Ashabi
@Medinfo_X
Translated from Persian
Trump's shift in tone from "regime" to "the country of Iran" (THE COUNTRY OF IRAN) in his latest tweet is no coincidence. When he speaks of "constructive dialogue" while the Islamic Republic categorically denies any negotiations, it means the seat across the table in Washington doesn't belong to the current officials.

What's fascinating is that the order to halt attacks on power plants aligns precisely with Prince Reza Pahlavi's recent request (protecting national infrastructure and focusing on the hard core of power). This five-day pause in attacks carries the scent of an agreement with alternative forces and the opposition.

[bigheadfred]

Klara
@klara_sjo
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11h
🇺🇸💀🇮🇷 DETROIT OBLITERATED BY LONG RANGE IRANIAN INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC HYPERSONIC MISSILES. THE LEVEL OF DESTRUCTION IS UNPRECEDENTED.

$3.75 worth of damage.

[bigheadfred]

Open Source Intel
@Osint613
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3h
Iran Reports: Tehran is currently facing unprecedented strikes, reportedly aimed at top regime officials.

[Timber Rattler]

"We have had very, very strong talks. We'll see where they lead. We have points, major points of agreement, I would say almost all points of agreement. Perhaps that hasn't been conveyed."

"The communication, as you know, has been blown to pieces. They were unable to talk to each other, but we've had very strong talks. Mr. Witkoff and Mr. Kushner had them."

None of this makes any sense whatsoever.

Except that Trump is preparing to sell out the Iranian people.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2036076905586135518

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2036074109767929966

[Timber Rattler]

Excerpt:
You know that frustrating moment when President Trump extends an olive branch for real peace talks — and our so-called ally immediately torches the table? That’s exactly what just unfolded in the Middle East.

(snip)

Israel is doing something Trump doesn't want them to do. They always do that. They need to listen to POTUS!

What the hell are you talking about, @American Girl? 

Israel getting in the way of Witkoff and Kushner's big real estate deal in Tehran?

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2036076644784349635

[Timber Rattler]

Open Source Intel
@Osint613
·
3h
Iran Reports: Tehran is currently facing unprecedented strikes, reportedly aimed at top regime officials.

That'll be the Israelis winning this thing despite TACO in progress.

[mystery-ak]

[240B]

Dr. Mehrdad Ashabi
@Medinfo_X
Translated from Persian
Trump's shift in tone from "regime" to "the country of Iran" (THE COUNTRY OF IRAN) in his latest tweet is no coincidence. When he speaks of "constructive dialogue" while the Islamic Republic categorically denies any negotiations, it means the seat across the table in Washington doesn't belong to the current officials.

What's fascinating is that the order to halt attacks on power plants aligns precisely with Prince Reza Pahlavi's recent request (protecting national infrastructure and focusing on the hard core of power). This five-day pause in attacks carries the scent of an agreement with alternative forces and the opposition.

WHEN IRANIAN PROPAGANDA SAYS 'NO TALKS HAVE HAPPENED', they are talking about No Talks with THEM have happened.
The current military junta is not having talks. It does not apply to talks with opposition organizations and other parties.

[Timber Rattler]

I'm really tired of Eric Daugherty's breathless non-stop histrionics and hyperbole, and American Girl's hit and run "Trump can do no wrong!" posts.  Is she on the White House Communications staff and sp@ms this stuff all over the Conservative blogosphere?

[Timber Rattler]

It does not apply to talks with opposition organizations and other parties.

So who would that be?   

[Cyber Liberty]

That'll be the Israelis winning this thing despite TACO in progress.

Israel will do whatever they have to do.  Every war they fight is an existential war they cannot afford to lose.  Golda Mier used to get crosswise with the US all the time.

[bigheadfred]

Rapid Response 47

@RapidResponse47
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29m
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@POTUS
: "We're dealing with the man who, I believe, is the most respected and the 'leader.' It's a little tough — we've wiped out everybody."

REPORTER: "Is that the Supreme Leader?"

@POTUS
: "No."