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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2850 on: March 23, 2026, 08:14:36 am »
Ah, that makes sense,

Yep, if Iran says these are our current leaders and that fact is reported in the New Yorker, we should ignore the what Iran has said. Makes perfect sense.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2851 on: March 23, 2026, 08:14:56 am »
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Trump and his aides reportedly began referring to Reza Pahlavi, the son of Iran’s last Shah, as the “loser prince.”

I'm not sure why Trump and friends are so down on Pahlavi Jr.  He seems a decent enough guy, and is a natural choice to lead a new Constitutional monarchy of sorts, his family having prior legitimacy, if he's willing to work with Rubio.  Something or somebody has to fill the vacuum now.  Iran is too big and too strategically important to be allowed to become a broken, failed state, like Syria and Libya.  It is the successor state to the old Persian Empire, and sits squarely astride the world's old trade routes.

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This morning on CNN's Squawk Box, Joe Kernan [ very moderate Dem - often supports GOP/47 positions ] reported, he just talked with 47. His reporting of the conversation seemed a bit confused.

But, the upshot seems to be that 47 regards whomever the current leadership may be as regime change, because the leaders of the old regime are reported as all dead, as told to Kernan.

Well that's not going to fly.  What was it that Colin Powell said...you break it and you buy it?

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All of that is in regards to 47 new position on withholding strikes on Iran's infrastructure [ a bad idea in any case ]. And 47 in his Truth Social statement regarding any deal made it plain, it would be with with the mullah/group speaking for the current Iranian leadership, meaning the Mullahs would still be running the country, there would be no people's revolution, and certainly no Pahlavi. Of course, the country would continue to be run and managed by Arabs, not Persians.

Right.  So what happened to "unconditional surrender," in the U.S. Civil War and World War II sense, that Trump was promising last week?



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To that end then, what would 47 have accomplished? A postponement of the nuclear Armageddon the 12ers wish to achieve? Just what?

Nothing really, just kicking the can down the road again if he leaves any of the mullahs in charge.  And what about his rhetoric about protecting the Iranian people and encouraging a "people's revolt" against the mullahs?  What happened to that reasoning from just two weeks ago?
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2852 on: March 23, 2026, 08:16:15 am »
Why did you not post that bit, it if it was so important? You could let all of us in on it now should you chose.

I knew you wouldn't take time out of your busy schedule of supporting Iran's regime to read it....
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2853 on: March 23, 2026, 08:17:44 am »
I knew you wouldn't take time out of your busy schedule of supporting Iran's regime to read it....

Bob is not supporting Iran's regime.  He's asking hard questions that nobody else wants to ask because they don't want to hear answers.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2854 on: March 23, 2026, 08:22:01 am »
Is this the TACO moment?

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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2855 on: March 23, 2026, 08:28:39 am »
Is this the TACO moment?

I think that Trump is going wobbly now after watching too many news shows last week, and the Iranians started doing some damage to U.S. forces and facilities in retaliatory strikes, and de facto closing Hormuz, resulting in severe gas price spikes.  Not sure Trump expected any of that going in, so he's now looking for a quick exit ramp...declare victory and head home, leaving a gigantic power vacuum in the Middle East and a ticked off Iranian public who expected more from him.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2856 on: March 23, 2026, 08:29:44 am »
Bob is not supporting Iran's regime.  He's asking hard questions that nobody else wants to ask because they don't want to hear answers.

Quoting a poorly sourced article from The New Yorker is probably not the best way to do that....
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2857 on: March 23, 2026, 08:30:59 am »
Quoting a poorly sourced article from The New Yorker is probably not the best way to do that....

I think you guys are talking past each other.  You've had a burr in your saddle all week too...what's the issue here?
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2858 on: March 23, 2026, 08:33:53 am »
Who are they talking with?..who is the Leader of Iran?

Trump had the upper hand here, is he now backing down?....
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2859 on: March 23, 2026, 08:35:56 am »
Who Is Running Iran? CIA, Mossad Search for Signs of Unseen Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei — ‘No Proof He’s at the Helm’

U.S. and Israeli intelligence agencies are scrambling to determine who is actually running Iran after the regime’s newly installed “supreme leader” Mojtaba Khamenei — who has not been seen or heard from publicly since the opening strikes of the war that killed his father — again failed to appear publicly for Nowruz, the Persian New Year, with officials warning there is “no proof that he is taking the helm” and describing the situation as “beyond weird.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/03/23/who-is-running-iran-cia-mossad-search-for-signs-of-unseen-supreme-leader-mojtaba-khamenei-no-proof-hes-at-the-helm/
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2860 on: March 23, 2026, 08:36:18 am »


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BREAKING: Iran built a subway system for ballistic missiles inside a granite mountain south of Yazd. Automated rails move warheads and transporter-erector-launchers between assembly halls, storage vaults, and three to ten blast-door exits carved into the mountainside at depths reaching 500 metres. A TEL rides the tracks to an exit, surfaces, fires, and retreats underground before the strike aircraft can respond. The mountain has been under construction for two decades. The IRGC did not build a bunker. It built a weapons factory with its own internal railway, buried deeper than any conventional bomb can reach.

The United States and Israel have struck Yazd Imam Hussein on March 1st, March 6th and March 17th and even earlier today!

Satellite imagery shows collapsed portals, cratered ventilation shafts, and destroyed surface infrastructure. The visible damage is real. The invisible infrastructure is intact. On March 20, a long-range ballistic missile launched from the Yazd complex, failed during boost phase, and crashed near Kohistan Park inside Yazd City itself. The launch failed. The fact that it happened at all is the proof. Three weeks of precision strikes on the portals did not stop the railway behind them from delivering a missile to a surviving exit.

The engineering is simple in concept and devastating in practice. Each blast door is a separate exit point. When one is destroyed, the rail system reroutes to another. When that door is struck, it is backfilled with soil and concrete by the IRGC from inside, then re-excavated when the bombing pauses. CNN satellite analysis confirmed the rail layouts. Alma Research mapped the tunnel networks. The IDF acknowledged that approximately 60 percent of launch infrastructure has been destroyed. The US estimated 50 percent of capacity remains. That remaining 50 percent rides underground rails that no bomb in the American or Israeli arsenal can reach at 500 metres through granite.

The GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator, the largest bunker-buster ever built, penetrates approximately 60 metres of reinforced concrete or roughly 40 metres of moderate rock. Granite is harder than moderate rock. Five hundred metres is more than twelve times the weapon’s maximum penetration depth. The gap between the bomb and the tunnel is not a margin of error. It is a physical impossibility. The mountain does not care how many sorties are flown above it. The railway does not care how many portals are sealed. The geology is the defence, and the geology has been there for 300 million years.

This is why the war continues. Every missile that hits Arad, Dimona, or central Israel was assembled underground, moved on rails to an exit, and fired from a door that may have been destroyed and rebuilt multiple times since February 28. The persistence of Iranian missile fire despite three weeks of intensive strikes is not resilience. It is infrastructure. The IRGC did not prepare for this war by building rockets. It prepared by building railways inside mountains. The rockets are replaceable. The railways are permanent. And the granite that protects them was formed before mammals existed.

The strait is 21 miles wide. The mountain is 500 metres deep. And the railway inside it is still delivering missiles to the surface.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2861 on: March 23, 2026, 08:38:56 am »
I think you guys are talking past each other.  You've had a burr in your saddle all week too...what's the issue here?

Just calling what I see. 

And Trump does appear to be going wobbly...he called off bombing the power plants because Iran promised to stop attacking ships in the Strait.  Trading action for promises never works.  May be the biggest mistake of this war.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2862 on: March 23, 2026, 08:39:40 am »
Who are they talking with?..who is the Leader of Iran?

Trump had the upper hand here, is he now backing down?....

As far as I can tell, there is no leader of Iran anymore, just whoever the head of the IRGC is at the moment.

It's obviously Araghchi who's talking, and no doubt with Witkoff and Kushner, trying to desperately cut some sort of deal.  I think he and whoever is giving him orders now are panicking because the Marines are on their way, and they're not sure if the "Devil Dogs" are going to just take Kharg Island and the other small islands in the Gulf and Strait, or actually land on the Iranian mainland.

Trump has them where he wants them but is about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.  At this point he has to go for all in for unconditional surrender, or he's just creating more problems for himself and his successors down the road.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2863 on: March 23, 2026, 08:44:04 am »
Please Trump, don't be like every President who backs down when we are winning...
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« Reply #2864 on: March 23, 2026, 08:45:42 am »
Who are they talking with?..who is the Leader of Iran?

Trump had the upper hand here, is he now backing down?....

Damn it.  It sure. seems he is backing down.  He claims he has had good talks with Iran and is holding off for 5 days.   Iran is claiming victory that they have defeated Tump.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2865 on: March 23, 2026, 08:47:10 am »
Also this:

Trump administration making heavy preparations for potential use of ground troops in Iran

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-iran-ground-troop-preparations/

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Pentagon officials have made detailed preparations for deploying U.S. ground forces into Iran, multiple sources briefed on the discussions told CBS News.

Senior military commanders have submitted specific requests aimed at preparing for such an option as President Trump weighs moves in the U.S.-Israel-led conflict with Iran, the sources said.

Mr. Trump has been deliberating whether to position ground forces in the region, sources said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. It was unclear under what circumstances he would authorize the use of troops on the ground.

"No, I'm not putting troops anywhere," he told reporters in the Oval Office on Thursday when asked about ground troops, but quickly added: "If I were, I certainly wouldn't tell you."

Officials at U.S. Central Command referred questions from CBS News to the White House and Pentagon.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a statement: "It's the job of the Pentagon to make preparations in order to give the Commander in Chief maximum optionality, it does not mean the President has made a decision, and as the President said in the Oval Office yesterday, he is not planning to send ground troops anywhere at this time."

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Non-denial/denial from Leavitt with some weasel words.

Again, I don't think that Trump actually believed that the war would go this far, and is getting nervous that it's getting out of control, like the "Guns of August."  I don't sense any long term planning here, just reactive moves made according to the day-to-day news cycle.  And I don't think Trump believed that the air campaign against Iran would last more than two weeks before the Iranian people spontaneously rose up in rebellion and took charge of the country themselves, however he thought that would play out.

So here we are going into week 4, and Trump is showing the first signs of going 'TACO.'
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2866 on: March 23, 2026, 08:48:50 am »
Damn it.  It sure. seems he is backing down.  He claims he has had good talks with Iran and is holding off for 5 days.   Iran is claiming victory that they have defeated Tump.

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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2867 on: March 23, 2026, 08:50:13 am »
Please Trump, don't be like every President who backs down when we are winning...

I think today was make or break, and Trump blinked, giving the Iranian regime an unearned win....may be downhill from here.   9999hair out0000
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« Reply #2868 on: March 23, 2026, 08:50:17 am »
WTH does TACO mean....
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« Reply #2869 on: March 23, 2026, 08:51:05 am »
Iranian media are denying these talks ever took place. 

Could be nonsense, but it is interesting how this pause coincides with the trading hours at NYSE.
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« Reply #2870 on: March 23, 2026, 08:53:18 am »
WTH does TACO mean....
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« Reply #2871 on: March 23, 2026, 08:53:56 am »
WTH does TACO mean....

"Trump Always Chickens Out."

There is certainly a pattern to it, looking recently back at Minneapolis and pulling the CPB out and retiring Bovino.
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« Reply #2872 on: March 23, 2026, 08:54:15 am »
Trump always chickens out..

Thank you....
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2873 on: March 23, 2026, 08:54:52 am »
As far as I can tell, there is no leader of Iran anymore, just whoever the head of the IRGC is at the moment.

It's obviously Araghchi who's talking, and no doubt with Witkoff and Kushner, trying to desperately cut some sort of deal.  I think he and whoever is giving him orders now are panicking because the Marines are on their way, and they're not sure if the "Devil Dogs" are going to just take Kharg Island and the other small islands in the Gulf and Strait, or actually land on the Iranian mainland.

Trump has them where he wants them but is about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.  At this point he has to go for all in for unconditional surrender, or he's just creating more problems for himself and his successors down the road.

It looks like he's going to kick the can down the road again.  He had Iran by the balls this weekend then he blinked!
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2874 on: March 23, 2026, 08:56:49 am »
It looks like he's going to kick the can down the road again.  He had Iran by the balls this weekend then he blinked!

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« Reply #2875 on: March 23, 2026, 08:59:10 am »
It looks like he's going to kick the can down the road again.  He had Iran by the balls this weekend then he blinked!

And it ALWAYS leads back to Witkoff and Kushner.  I wonder what Rubio thinks now?  J.D. is probably tickled pink, with his buddy Tucker Carlson.
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« Reply #2876 on: March 23, 2026, 09:00:25 am »
Iran says no negotiations ongoing after Trump postpones power plant strikes

Iranian state media denied engaging in talks with the U.S. on Monday after President Donald Trump postponed U.S. strikes on Iranian power plants.

Trump stated in a Truth Social post that the U.S. had engaged in "very good" and "constructive" negotiations with Iranian leaders on Monday.

Iranian media, citing an unnamed security official, denied that any such talks were taking place.

Prior to Trump’s announcement, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi acknowledged talking by phone with his Turkish counterpart, Hakan Fidan. Turkey has been an intermediary before in negotiations between Tehran and Washington.

Fox News' Eric Mack contributed to this report.
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« Reply #2877 on: March 23, 2026, 09:03:16 am »
This is not what I voted for.  NO HALF MEASURES!!!

Hmmm....Whoever is running Iran has promised to begin bombing de-salinization plants "...beginning with the largest...".

Iran is essentially "tapping out"... what difference is giving them 5 more days at this point in time? :shrug:
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Re: LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two
« Reply #2878 on: March 23, 2026, 09:06:41 am »
Iran says no negotiations ongoing after Trump postpones power plant strikes

Iranian state media denied engaging in talks with the U.S. on Monday after President Donald Trump postponed U.S. strikes on Iranian power plants.

Trump stated in a Truth Social post that the U.S. had engaged in "very good" and "constructive" negotiations with Iranian leaders on Monday.

Iranian media, citing an unnamed security official, denied that any such talks were taking place.

Prior to Trump’s announcement, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi acknowledged talking by phone with his Turkish counterpart, Hakan Fidan. Turkey has been an intermediary before in negotiations between Tehran and Washington.

Fox News' Eric Mack contributed to this report.
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I think Trump just threw the November election away.  He traded an action (bombing) for a non-promise.  Patton would be furious....
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« Reply #2879 on: March 23, 2026, 09:07:13 am »
And it ALWAYS leads back to Witkoff and Kushner.  I wonder what Rubio thinks now?  J.D. is probably tickled pink, with his buddy Tucker Carlson.

Yep Kushner.  He CANNOT be trusted.  Why is he even involved?

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« Reply #2880 on: March 23, 2026, 09:08:53 am »
Hmmm....Whoever is running Iran has promised to begin bombing de-salinization plants "...beginning with the largest...".

Iran is essentially "tapping out"... what difference is giving them 5 more days at this point in time? :shrug:

Loss of initiative.  Now the ball is in Iran's court.
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« Reply #2881 on: March 23, 2026, 09:08:53 am »
Is Trump just pausing strikes on Iran power, energy plants....?

What about missile sites and other military sites?
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« Reply #2882 on: March 23, 2026, 09:10:43 am »
I think Trump just threw the November election away.  He traded an action (bombing) for a non-promise.  Patton would be furious....

You're damn right he did....just another weak-kneed Repub...
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« Reply #2883 on: March 23, 2026, 09:11:26 am »

I didn't realize JD and Carlson are buddies.

I don't think they are.  Doesn't matter, Trump just blew the war.
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« Reply #2884 on: March 23, 2026, 09:12:08 am »
I'm not sure why Trump and friends are so down on Pahlavi Jr.  He seems a decent enough guy, and is a natural choice to lead a new Constitutional monarchy of sorts, his family having prior legitimacy, if he's willing to work with Rubio.  Something or somebody has to fill the vacuum now.  Iran is too big and too strategically important to be allowed to become a broken, failed state, like Syria and Libya.  It is the successor state to the old Persian Empire, and sits squarely astride the world's old trade routes.

Well that's not going to fly.  What was it that Colin Powell said...you break it and you buy it?

Right.  So what happened to "unconditional surrender," in the U.S. Civil War and World War II sense, that Trump was promising last week?

Nothing really, just kicking the can down the road again if he leaves any of the mullahs in charge.  And what about his rhetoric about protecting the Iranian people and encouraging a "people's revolt" against the mullahs?  What happened to that reasoning from just two weeks ago?



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Translation: Abbas Araghchi, the guy who yelled at Witkoff in Switzerland, called him and Kushner back and asked for some sort of deal, probably real estate and natural resources, if Trump would call off the "Devil Dogs."


What happened could have been very generous offers of real estate and natural resources ...

There is something odd about anyone who would talk about unconditional surrender, protecting the Iranian people, encouraging a people's revolt, mention a regime being evil, the 30K plus murdered citizens ... and then talk about a very good negotiation with the same regime ... while calling a legitimate anti-Mullah Iranian leader a loser.

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« Reply #2885 on: March 23, 2026, 09:13:09 am »
I knew you wouldn't take time out of your busy schedule of supporting Iran's regime to read it....

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« Reply #2886 on: March 23, 2026, 09:15:11 am »
I think Trump just threw the November election away.  He traded an action (bombing) for a non-promise.  Patton would be furious....

My thought as well.  Goodbye to any chance of winning in November.

Trump caved and Iran won.  Our supposed allies didn't  help.  The U.S. bowed to Iran for all the  world to see. Do they not still posess uranium?

Iran now is the dominant power?
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You know that hopeful turning-point moment when President Trump shifts from decisive military pressure to real diplomacy — and the mullahs finally start talking? That’s exactly what just happened.

In a blockbuster announcement, President Trump revealed that the United States and Iran have held “very good and productive conversations” over the last two days aimed at a “complete and total resolution of our hostilities in the Middle East.”



Trump just flipped the script in the Middle East and showed that strength and diplomacy can actually move at the same time.


https://redstatenation.com/breaking-trump-announces-major-progress-toward-peace-with-iran-here-are-the-details-video/

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« Reply #2888 on: March 23, 2026, 09:16:48 am »
I can only think that Trump and his planers under estimated the Iranian military and their capabilities.
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« Reply #2889 on: March 23, 2026, 09:17:34 am »
It's early. Things may not be as we think.  Time to step away and get some sun.

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« Reply #2890 on: March 23, 2026, 09:17:58 am »


 

What happened could have been very generous offers of real estate and natural resources ...

There is something odd about anyone who would talk about unconditional surrender, protecting the Iranian people, encouraging a people's revolt, mention a regime being evil, the 30K plus murdered citizens ... and then talk about a very good negotiation with the same regime ... while calling a legitimate anti-Mullah Iranian leader a loser.

With Kushner involved very likely real estate deals...natural resources help could likely care less.
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« Reply #2891 on: March 23, 2026, 09:18:15 am »
If the enriched uranium doesn't get identified and secured it was all is for not. That was the justification for going in. If it isn't retrieved the mission is a failure and no one will believe Trump's justification.
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« Reply #2892 on: March 23, 2026, 09:18:55 am »
Hmmm....Whoever is running Iran has promised to begin bombing de-salinization plants "...beginning with the largest...".

Iran is essentially "tapping out"... what difference is giving them 5 more days at this point in time? :shrug:

They weren't tapping out.  They were threatening to kill the water supplies of Saudi Arabia, Oman, UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait, i.e. the gigantic desalination plants that allow those countries to thrive despite the desert.
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« Reply #2893 on: March 23, 2026, 09:19:19 am »


 

What happened could have been very generous offers of real estate and natural resources ...

There is something odd about anyone who would talk about unconditional surrender, protecting the Iranian people, encouraging a people's revolt, mention a regime being evil, the 30K plus murdered citizens ... and then talk about a very good negotiation with the same regime ... while calling a legitimate anti-Mullah Iranian leader a loser.

I don't think Trump called him that, I'm not taking the word of an Iranian regime mouthpiece like you are.

But Trump just blew it anyway by chickening out.  I feared he would, and he did.   :shrug:
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« Reply #2894 on: March 23, 2026, 09:19:42 am »
What happened could have been very generous offers of real estate and natural resources ...

There is something odd about anyone who would talk about unconditional surrender, protecting the Iranian people, encouraging a people's revolt, mention a regime being evil, the 30K plus murdered citizens ... and then talk about a very good negotiation with the same regime ... while calling a legitimate anti-Mullah Iranian leader a loser.

Exactly!..I am just shocked..why did I think Trump would be different. **nononono*
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« Reply #2895 on: March 23, 2026, 09:21:05 am »
I can only think that Trump and his planers under estimated the Iranian military and their capabilities.

Yes, I've thought that for awhile.

Iran has shown the world that They Are the Superpower of the world.  It sickens me.
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« Reply #2896 on: March 23, 2026, 09:21:10 am »

FWIW: There is still a 2-3 week air campaign left to hit all the military targets identified prior to the start.
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« Reply #2897 on: March 23, 2026, 09:23:20 am »
Exactly!..I am just shocked..why did I think Trump would be different. **nononono*

He was doing so well in this conflict until this morning when he caved.
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« Reply #2898 on: March 23, 2026, 09:23:28 am »
I don't think Trump called him that, I'm not taking the word of an Iranian regime mouthpiece like you are.

But Trump just blew it anyway by chickening out.  I feared he would, and he did.   :shrug:

I'm taking the word of 47  who called him a loser on multiple occasions as seen in TV interviews. Deal with it.
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« Reply #2899 on: March 23, 2026, 09:24:14 am »
Exactly!..I am just shocked..why did I think Trump would be different. **nononono*

Kushner being involved should have been our first clue!

Trouble is what is Iran's next move?  I don't  think they are going to stop now.   They are currently charging 2M to use the strait.
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