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Did We Steal The Land?
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Did We Steal The Land?

Billy Eilish made a harsh allegation, one that is echoed in schools and universities across America. It needs to be unpacked.

M. E. Boyd | February 27, 2026

At a recent Grammy Awards ceremony, Billie Eilish stated publicly that “no one is illegal on stolen land.” This statement implies that the United States was unlawfully created and, therefore, any national laws regarding the illegal entrance of aliens into the country are invalid. This is a very big issue. If the United States was unlawfully created (different from unfortunately created), a case could be made that the land that now comprises its sovereign borders should revert to the indigenous people then living within those boundaries, or in the alternative, be allowed to be claimed by majorities pouring into its undefended borders—a type of siege.

Was the United States lawfully created?

It was lawfully created if one accepts the premises of Western Civilization, Christianity, and the notion of advances in civilization. It is thought that indigenous American tribes existed in the continental United States for thousands of years. Some scholars put that number at 23,000 years. This occupancy consisted of hundreds of tribes with spheres of influence over certain lands, but not individual ownership of parcels of land. These tribes mostly existed at a subsistence level, with advanced skills in survival crops and surface-level metallurgy—especially gold and copper.

Western Civilization grew out of Greek and Roman thought and practices, combined with the introduction and acceptance of Christianity, and incorporated the notion of advancement over subsistence, including the development of the person morally and intellectually. Christianity encouraged the curious, the industrious, and the innovative as discoverers of God’s creation.

The Biblical notion of man’s fallen nature shrouds Western thinking, a constant swimming upstream as advances are developed and then debauched. The word “lawful” includes this moral component. What may be legal must also be lawful in the Christian belief system.

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Re: Did We Steal The Land?
« Reply #1 on: Today at 01:58:28 pm »
Damn right we did ... for God and King.

Nations are created by conquering armies, not by laws.  Laws are a tool for conquering armies to establish and maintain multi-generational power and control over conquered lands and conquered peoples.

Yes, America is an empire.  So what.  So is Canada.  So is Mexico.  Iceland is built on land stolen from the native Inuit peoples.  The Inuit peoples conquered it before the Vikings conquered them.  If Iceland is to ever pay reparations for human conquest of Iceland, they need to pay it to walrus and auks.

No white guilt here.
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« Reply #2 on: Today at 02:11:18 pm »
Every habitable, useful scrap of land on Earth has been conquered or confiscated by someone, often many times over through human history.

To claim that any one nation's land was "stolen" is not a serious argument, but rather a spiteful way of complaining about the current proprietors. 
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« Reply #3 on: Today at 02:12:22 pm »
It's all just bait and switcharooney. If say we did give up the land, do you think the Marxists are going to give it to the Indians?

Heck no. They'll take it for themselves. This is all just deconstructionism to create a power vacuum to snatch a Marxist dictatorship out of.
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« Reply #4 on: Today at 02:24:37 pm »
Oh, blahblahblah. My ancestors have been on this continent since around 1611. The statute of limitations has run, and unless we personally stole something from Billie, she really has no standing to accuse us of anything, anyway. Stay in your lane, hon.

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« Reply #5 on: Today at 02:28:47 pm »
Oh, blahblahblah. My ancestors have been on this continent since around 1611.

You beat me by one year.
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Re: Did We Steal The Land?
« Reply #6 on: Today at 02:29:53 pm »
You beat me by one year.
Nope, you may have taken the title. I just checked another family history, and it said they arrived in Maryland in 1630. Darn!

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« Reply #7 on: Today at 03:04:25 pm »
I don't know when my ancestors left england. Most likely they were asked to leave and  Prolly not till all the Revolutionary stuff was done and over.  We we like the Hekawi Tribe, Maketh love Not war.  But In recent history I did have a relative  who was hung, or is it hanged, for his participation in the plot to Kill President Lincoln.  So I got that going for me.
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« Reply #8 on: Today at 03:42:16 pm »
Oh, blahblahblah. My ancestors have been on this continent since around 1611. The statute of limitations has run, and unless we personally stole something from Billie, she really has no standing to accuse us of anything, anyway. Stay in your lane, hon.

That is 100 years before I know of our family history. (Don't have a clue when any of my family actually came to America)... all of them are old school though..
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Re: Did We Steal The Land?
« Reply #9 on: Today at 04:36:30 pm »
It is impossible to 'steal land' from the stone age people who were in America, because they did not have the concept of 'land ownership'. In their culture it was not possible to own land. That is a European concept which was taught to the nomadic tribes by the White man.

Land was universally owned by the Earth itself. The indigiousnous tribes controlled territories and resources but they did not presume to "own" the Earth. The control or dominance over land was settled by war and power. These territorial boundaries shifted wildly from year to year and from decade to decade.

Some tribes were entirely migratory and controlled no territory at all. They followed the food (herds of animals) and the seasons, constantly on the move.

The point is, the native tribes controlled certain shifting areas through violence, war, and power. But they knew and accepted that their control over an area was contingent and depended solely on their ability to hold it. If another stronger tribe rolled in and pushed them out, this was not considered 'stealing'. It was just a normal and accepted part of Native American culture. The very idea of 'stolen land' is a foreign concept to natives. It is something they have been taught by self-loathing guilt-mongering White Europeans.

And that is still the case today. Almost ALL of the 'stolen land' champions are rich, ultra-White, Leftist Liberals. There are a few, but it is rare to see any native representation in the stolen-land agitprop. The movement is dominated almost entirely by rich White Liberals.
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Re: Did We Steal The Land?
« Reply #10 on: Today at 05:02:45 pm »
Nope, you may have taken the title. I just checked another family history, and it said they arrived in Maryland in 1630. Darn!

You both have me beat.  My Father's side of the family were descended from the Pennsylvania Dutch, and my Mother's came from the Irish immigrants who came over during the Potato Famine.
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