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You can fit South Carolina in that circle.
Well, she must be somewhere. Why not Myrtle Beach?

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Well, she must be somewhere. Why not Myrtle Beach?

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The moment I heard about this case, I said, "It's a son-in-law."
You were not the only one.
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You were not the only one.

It’s kind of the only thing that makes any sort of sense.

I think once someone tells us what was in that house worth stealing, we will know who did it
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It’s kind of the only thing that makes any sort of sense.

I think once someone tells us what was in that house worth stealing, we will know who did it
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The one thing bothering me that they haven't addressed is how did this guy get inside..wth did he ring the doorbell and Nancy opened the door?

We do know that he spent over 41mins in the house with Nancy..then he had to help or carry Nancy to the car along with his backpack..unless he had an accomplice to help. . .and he had until dawn to get out of the area without being seen.. I just can't see him/them putting up with an 84yo woman who can barely take care of herself.
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My theory is....   The son in law arranged with likely a Mexican national to have Nancy kidnapped (assumption).  Something happened during the kidnapping, mom fell, etc and had trauma.  The national and his buddy hauled her off to who knows where.  A third person (guy in California) texts the son in law and daughter asking where the bitcoin money is then calls and talks to one of them for 9 seconds.  So there are at least 4 people involved.  The Mexican national and his buddy are now long gone as is anything they were wearing.  They'll find out the son in law had financial problems. 

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My theory is....   The son in law arranged with likely a Mexican national to have Nancy kidnapped (assumption).  Something happened during the kidnapping, mom fell, etc and had trauma.  The national and his buddy hauled her off to who knows where.  A third person (guy in California) texts the son in law and daughter asking where the bitcoin money is then calls and talks to one of them for 9 seconds.  So there are at least 4 people involved.  The Mexican national and his buddy are now long gone as is anything they were wearing.  They'll find out the son in law had financial problems.

Did the sil and daughter Annie pass the lie detector...I think they said everyone passed...
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Did the sil and daughter Annie pass the lie detector...I think they said everyone passed...
No, I had not heard that.  Well...so much for my theory...lol.

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No, I had not heard that.  Well...so much for my theory...lol.

Well, my theory is the sheriff's dept. is dirty -- and perhaps the SIL didn't truly pass the lie detector's test.  :shrug:

This has already been a botched investigation and they should have searched the area and brought in dogs immediately.
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Well, my theory is the sheriff's dept. is dirty -- and perhaps the SIL didn't truly pass the lie detector's test.  :shrug:

This has already been a botched investigation and they should have searched the area and brought in dogs immediately.

Yep! Sloppy cop work. The only question is if that was SOP or intentional.
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Yep! Sloppy cop work. The only question is if that was SOP or intentional.

Maybe the clumsy oaf in the doorbell video is a cop.  :pondering:
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Retired FBI agent questions Pima County sheriff’s approach, says Trump’s criticism is ‘well taken’

James Gagliano, a retired FBI supervisory special agent, told Fox News’ “America’s Newsroom” on Friday that the way Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos is releasing information in the Nancy Guthrie investigation is not “the best way to conduct the messaging in a case this large.”

“I'm super careful in how I criticize from the armchair quarterback perspective, but the thing that I think has really hurt this investigation, number one, that the FBI has not been offered the lead and number two, the fact that the information that's been put out through fits and starts, and things have to be walked back,” Gagliano said.

“Things were said incorrectly, and what the sheriff is doing is not operating through a public information officer or a public affairs office where there's a weekly or bi-weekly press conference. He's doing these individual interviews and each one of them provides a little something different. I don't think this is the best way to conduct the messaging in a case this large,” Gagliano continued.

He also reacted to President Donald Trump’s criticism of investigators working the case.  Trump on Thursday took issue with authorities telling the media they were flying a Pima County Sheriff’s Department helicopter equipped with an FBI Bluetooth "sniffer" to detect the missing woman's pacemaker.

"I didn't like when they talked about going after the pacemaker before they even started going after it," Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on his way to Georgia.

“The question becomes, how much is too much? What should we let the public know that we are looking for or we need help in, and what are things we should keep close to the vest?” Gagliano said. “And obviously searching for the pacemaker, it’s a technology that's been around for a while, it operates off of Bluetooth, and there are things open source online about it, but the president's point was well taken, that sometimes we might give the bad guys too much information.”
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 Maybe they are hoping the bad guys will go dig up the body and extract the pacemaker... :shrug:
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Maybe the clumsy oaf in the doorbell video is a cop.  :pondering:

That video looks different when you think about it that way.  Good one.

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Maybe the clumsy oaf in the doorbell video is a cop.  :pondering:

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I wouldn't put it past the Sheriff of Nottingham....
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I wouldn't put it past the Sheriff of Nottingham....

But, why???

To steal her Hummel collection?

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But, why???

To steal her Hummel collection?

https://www.jacquelinestallone.com/most-valuable-hummel-figurines/

Anything to muddy the waters!  TBH, I don't think the Sheriff of Nottingham is that bright, but there are others in the corrupt Pima County regime at work here, like Senator Sedition Kelly, who I find it very interesting the News Babe called first (even before the Sheriff).
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But, why???

To steal her Hummel collection?

https://www.jacquelinestallone.com/most-valuable-hummel-figurines/

Do you happen to know if she had the 1956 Letter to Santa one?

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Do you happen to know if she had the 1956 Letter to Santa one?

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Tell your friend that my mother either sold that one in a garage sale or threw it out.   Along with my 1956 Barbie.....amongst other things. However, most have lost value.
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Tell your friend that my mother either sold that one in a garage sale or threw it out.   Along with my 1956 Barbie.....amongst other things. However, most have lost value.

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 Arizona couple found blood-spotted glove, rock with blood on it in desert mile from Nancy Guthrie’s home: report
By Nicholas McEntyre
Published Feb. 21, 2026, 3:56 a.m. ET

An Arizona couple allegedly found a pair of blood-stained gloves and a rock with a dried blood droplet in the desert a mile from Nancy Guthrie’s home — days after she was reported missing, according to a report.

The couple, who asked to remain anonymous, stumbled upon the suspicious black gloves on the ground 10 feet apart off Campbell Avenue in the Catalina Foothills of Tucson on Feb. 11, KVOA reported on Friday.

“Sure enough, it was a black glove in the desert. It appeared to have looked like it was ripped. It also appeared to look like it had blood on it. There was two different colors. The blood was more towards the wrist side of the glove and on the pointer finger, it looked like it was ripped,” they told the outlet.

The pair reported the sighting to authorities, concerned the items might be related to the investigation into the purported kidnapping of 84-year-old Guthrie, the mother of NBC “Today” host Savannah Guthrie.


A black glove was found by a couple near Nancy Guthrie’s home on Feb. 11, 2026.

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https://nypost.com/2026/02/21/us-news/arizona-couple-found-bloodied-black-glove-blood-on-rock-in-desert-mile-from-nancy-guthrie-home/
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... The Pima County Sheriff’s Department did not say if the bloodied gloves were among the ones collected for DNA evidence, as the search for the elder Guthrie entered its 20th day Saturday.

 “We cannot confirm at this time. Detectives and agents have collected multiple gloves from the area, and analysis is part of the investigation,” the department told the outlet. ...
They're blathering about everything else, so why not these particular gloves?

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Arizona couple found blood-spotted glove, rock with blood on it in desert mile from Nancy Guthrie’s home: report
By Nicholas McEntyre
Published Feb. 21, 2026, 3:56 a.m. ET

An Arizona couple allegedly found a pair of blood-stained gloves and a rock with a dried blood droplet in the desert a mile from Nancy Guthrie’s home — days after she was reported missing, according to a report.

The couple, who asked to remain anonymous, stumbled upon the suspicious black gloves on the ground 10 feet apart off Campbell Avenue in the Catalina Foothills of Tucson on Feb. 11, KVOA reported on Friday.

“Sure enough, it was a black glove in the desert. It appeared to have looked like it was ripped. It also appeared to look like it had blood on it. There was two different colors. The blood was more towards the wrist side of the glove and on the pointer finger, it looked like it was ripped,” they told the outlet.

The pair reported the sighting to authorities, concerned the items might be related to the investigation into the purported kidnapping of 84-year-old Guthrie, the mother of NBC “Today” host Savannah Guthrie.


A black glove was found by a couple near Nancy Guthrie’s home on Feb. 11, 2026.

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https://nypost.com/2026/02/21/us-news/arizona-couple-found-bloodied-black-glove-blood-on-rock-in-desert-mile-from-nancy-guthrie-home/
You'd think if the gloves contained her blood that we'd have heard of it....I guess.  Thinking it may have been red paint or the such?

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The investigation was botched from the very beginning.  Sad.  I don't expect that they will find her alive if at all.  I don't believe she was taken to Mexico, as I've said before, this is a burglary gone wrong and with them finding blood ... no, she's already passed and who  knows where he or they disposed of the body.

I still think somehow the SIL was involved.
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Just a thought, probably doesn't mean much, but I don't think it's that good an idea these days to be living close to the Mexico border when one has wealth and/or is well-known...

That's the same whether it's California, Arizona, New Mexico, or even Texas.

The further you are from the border (within reason)... the better.