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Trump, Iran, Israel, and American Conservatives

To conservatives who regarded President Donald Trump as the main defender against the leftist agenda including creeping Islamization, his recent actions with regard to Iran and Israel must surely be deeply disturbing.

Esther Cameron | January 27, 2026

To conservatives who regarded President Donald Trump as the main defender against the leftist agenda including creeping Islamization, his recent actions with regard to Iran and Israel must surely be deeply disturbing.

A brief review is in order.

Let us take Iran first.  An unprecedented number of Iranians took to the streets in an attempt to overthrow the ayatollahs, while the President of the United States repeatedly urged them to keep demonstrating, saying “Help is on the way.”  Then after thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, had been slaughtered, he announced that he had changed his mind, for the time being, on the strength of the regime’s promise to stop executing the protestors (for which he thanked the regime).  The regime immediately denied having made such a promise.  Trump did send warships and planes to the Middle East, giving the impression of a military buildup in preparation for an attack, but did not say he definitely would attack.  As the days lengthen between threat and performance, the probability of the latter decreases.  The latest is that Trump and his envoy Steve Witkoff think a “diplomatic solution” is possible, if the Iranians change their ways.  Do they think they are speaking to nursery school children?

One could say, of course, that Trump had no obligation, a priori, to come to the aid of the protestors in Iran, any more than all the rest of the world’s leaders who simply chose to look away.  But once he had promised aid, and many had relied on his promise and risked their lives, he did have an obligation.

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Re: Trump, Iran, Israel, and American Conservatives
« Reply #1 on: Today at 12:48:25 pm »
Define:  "Help is on the way!"   Define: "HELP"!

President Trump has never made an "Empty" threat, or reneged on a promise...campaign or otherwise.

I'm not intending to stick up for him here.  Should have waited before uttering the phrase publicly.

IMO, it's strictly logistics of the necessary Carrier Group being in position to provide necessary support during an operation.

We all know there will be a monument built in downtown Teheran, to the many thousands of civilian martyrs 


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If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #2 on: Today at 12:52:57 pm »
The neocons have a serious case of blue balls.  You’ll get your failed state and millions of refugees soon enough.  Patience.

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« Reply #3 on: Today at 01:09:15 pm »
Trump is not a conservative.  He ran as a Republican because the GOP was full of wimps he could bully and who would not fight back.

America really needs to extricate itself from Mideast affairs.  It's bleeding America dry just as it bled the British Empire and the Ottoman Empire dry.
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« Reply #4 on: Today at 02:01:58 pm »
These decisions have been a huge disappointment to me. I hope I just don't see the big picture.

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« Reply #5 on: Today at 03:47:32 pm »
Define:  "Help is on the way!"   Define: "HELP"!

President Trump has never made an "Empty" threat, or reneged on a promise...campaign or otherwise.

I'm not intending to stick up for him here.  Should have waited before uttering the phrase publicly.

I don't understand what the President should have waited for .... Trump was thisclose to striking Iran --- with Israel's okay and assistance --- then Netanyahu panicked, made a no first strike deal with the mullahs through Putin, and asked Trump to stand down for Israel's sake.  What else should Trump have done?

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« Reply #6 on: Today at 03:55:17 pm »
Help = hope & prayers
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« Reply #7 on: Today at 04:05:28 pm »
The neocons have a serious case of blue balls.  You’ll get your failed state and millions of refugees soon enough.  Patience.

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« Reply #8 on: Today at 04:15:54 pm »
I don't understand what the President should have waited for .... Trump was thisclose to striking Iran --- with Israel's okay and assistance --- then Netanyahu panicked, made a no first strike deal with the mullahs through Putin, and asked Trump to stand down for Israel's sake.  What else should Trump have done?

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In the "Wish he Wouldn't have said That" Camp. because I'm 'watching' a campaign commercial of President Trump repeatedly waving and yelling, "Help is On The Way" over the tens of thousands of video corpses.

Other than that, I agree with you, @Right_in_Virginia   Just bad timing for Israel to blink...without even notifying the U.S.?
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

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« Reply #9 on: Today at 04:39:12 pm »
In the "Wish he Wouldn't have said That" Camp. because I'm 'watching' a campaign commercial of President Trump repeatedly waving and yelling, "Help is On The Way" over the tens of thousands of video corpses.

Other than that, I agree with you, @Right_in_Virginia   Just bad timing for Israel to blink...without even notifying the U.S.?


Netanyahu blinked and sealed its deal with the mullahs before he called Trump.

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« Reply #10 on: Today at 05:05:42 pm »
Netanyahu blinked and sealed its deal with the mullahs before he called Trump.

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It appears so.  NOT COOL AT ALL!!

I'd still let him and his wife babysit my grandchildren however.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now

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« Reply #11 on: Today at 05:14:50 pm »

I'd still let him and his wife babysit my grandchildren however.


Cool @DCPatriot  ---- Make sure the kids are armed and their wallets are locked away.   :beer:




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« Reply #12 on: Today at 05:20:50 pm »
Cool @DCPatriot  ---- Make sure the kids are armed and their wallets are locked away.   :beer:

 :rolling:   :silly:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

If we had just let them eat the Tide pods, none of this would be happening right now