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New York Parents Furious as State-Mandated Electric Buses Leave Kids Without Heat in Frigid Temperat
« on: December 21, 2025, 09:11:53 am »
New York Parents Furious as State-Mandated Electric Buses Leave Kids Without Heat in Frigid Temperatures
 
And the (electrical vehicle) hits just keep on coming.

Just a day after car manufacturing giant Ford Motors announced that it was eating a sizable $19.5 billion bullet for putting too many of its eggs into the EV basket, a WIVB-TV report is pouring even more cold water on the left's EV craze.
 
As New York shifts to meet a new statewide mandate requiring all purchased school buses to be electric, parents have already identified a significant issue -- especially in the rather chilly Empire State.

According to WIVB, parents "in the Lake Shore Central School District are speaking out, claiming some bus drivers are turning the heat down, or off completely, in an attempt to conserve battery life on their electric school buses."

The report adds: "The kids are coming home saying their bus is freezing cold and the parents are giving them hand warmers."

The key issue at hand is that the heating system in the buses draws from the same electrical power source the bus itself relies on.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-york-parents-furious-as-state-mandated-electric-buses-leave-kids-without-heat-in-frigid-temperatures/ar-AA1SJtBw?ocid=widgetonlockscreen&cvid=c47e9175372946ebdcb726d768d71703&ei=25
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Re: New York Parents Furious as State-Mandated Electric Buses Leave Kids Without Heat in Frigid Temp
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2025, 09:13:30 am »
Why are they upset?  They elected the people who made the decisions on the buses, so it's their fault. :whistle:
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Re: New York Parents Furious as State-Mandated Electric Buses Leave Kids Without Heat in Frigid Temp
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2025, 07:12:21 pm »
Well, duh.

The beauty of the liquid cooled ICE is that it uses waste heat to warm the cabin and keep the windows clear of frost.

This miles vs heat problem was stated here multiple times as a drawback in EV design multiple times by myself and others.

Completely predictable that the choice would have to be made.

Now, weigh the options: Walk in the cold, or ride in a box that's cold inside but gets you there faster.

The latter beats walking.
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Re: New York Parents Furious as State-Mandated Electric Buses Leave Kids Without Heat in Frigid Temp
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2025, 08:05:12 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on December 21, 2025, 07:12:21 pm
Now, weigh the options: Walk in the cold, or ride in a box that's cold inside but gets you there faster.

The latter beats walking.

YABUTT, one of them crappy chinesium diesel heaters would fix the whole problem... for pennies.  :laugh:
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Re: New York Parents Furious as State-Mandated Electric Buses Leave Kids Without Heat in Frigid Temp
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2025, 08:06:16 pm »
Put a wood stove in it. That'll fix it.
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Re: New York Parents Furious as State-Mandated Electric Buses Leave Kids Without Heat in Frigid Temp
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2025, 08:44:23 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on December 21, 2025, 08:06:16 pm
Put a wood stove in it. That'll fix it.
If you're going that far, just make it steam powered, and route the exhaust steam through radiators...
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Re: New York Parents Furious as State-Mandated Electric Buses Leave Kids Without Heat in Frigid Temp
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2025, 09:01:20 pm »
As much as I hate EV busses.  Have you ever seen how these idiots dress in the winter at a school bus stop in the winter? 
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Re: New York Parents Furious as State-Mandated Electric Buses Leave Kids Without Heat in Frigid Temp
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2025, 12:46:24 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on December 21, 2025, 08:44:23 pm
If you're going that far, just make it steam powered, and route the exhaust steam through radiators...

I could do that. But you wouldn't like the bill.  :whistle:
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Re: New York Parents Furious as State-Mandated Electric Buses Leave Kids Without Heat in Frigid Temp
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2025, 12:47:38 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on December 21, 2025, 09:01:20 pm
As much as I hate EV busses.  Have you ever seen how these idiots dress in the winter at a school bus stop in the winter?

Idiots don't make it this far north.  :shrug:
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