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Re: China is overplaying its hand on rare earth materials
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2025, 04:02:14 pm »
Interesting. Much of US development of Rare Earths has been held up by environmental concerns. Recycling and alternatives for permanent magnets may mute the relatively small market (in terms of dollars, smaller than what Americans spend on pet food, annually).
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Re: China is overplaying its hand on rare earth materials
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2025, 04:07:09 pm »
Interesting. Much of US development of Rare Earths has been held up by environmental concerns. Recycling and alternatives for permanent magnets may mute the relatively small market (in terms of dollars, smaller than what Americans spend on pet food, annually).

Yep. China excels because they don't care about their people or environment.

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Re: China is overplaying its hand on rare earth materials
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2025, 04:15:01 pm »
Yep. China excels because they don't care about their people or environment.
True, but at times the environmentalists display a tendency to be overzealous to the extent that no development occurs.

Funny how they can confab on their iPhones and laptops and develop strategies to shut down the very extraction processes essential to the tech they use.

But then, environmentalism is an -ism, which makes it purt'near a religion.

I miss the ecologists.
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Re: China is overplaying its hand on rare earth materials
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2025, 04:25:37 pm »
True, but at times the environmentalists display a tendency to be overzealous to the extent that no development occurs.

Funny how they can confab on their iPhones and laptops and develop strategies to shut down the very extraction processes essential to the tech they use.

But then, environmentalism is an -ism, which makes it purt'near a religion.

I miss the ecologists.

I thought Rush put it well, we should be stewards of the earth but yeah, agree on environmentalism.

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Re: China is overplaying its hand on rare earth materials
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2025, 04:30:54 pm »
I thought Rush put it well, we should be stewards of the earth but yeah, agree on environmentalism.
I agree about stewardship. Land that has been in the family since the 1600s is still being farmed. My grandfather rotated crops, tilled in manure and the stalks from last year's tobacco crop when tobacco was the cash crop. In general, the land was taken care of. It wasn't until 'experts' started making rules that that became more difficult to do.
The tidewater estuary I grew up on had valuable fisheries in it, but has now been reduced to a shadow of its former self by such experts who made rules that stopped people along the river from using traditional and effective means of erosion control, etc.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis