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Apple To Replace Own Crappy AI With Google’s Crappy AI
« on: November 13, 2025, 07:36:19 am »
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Naturally, right after I post about how crappy Google’s AI is, Apple decides that it’s going to replace it’s own crappy AI with Google’s theoretically less crappy version.

    The smarter, more capable version of Siri that Apple is developing will be powered by Google Gemini, reports Bloomberg. Apple will pay Google approximately $1 billion per year for a 1.2 trillion parameter artificial intelligence model that was developed by Google.

    For context, parameters are a measure of how a model understands and responds to queries. More parameters generally means more capable, though training and architecture are also factors. Bloomberg says that Google’s model “dwarfs” the parameter level of Apple’s current models.

    The current cloud-based version of Apple Intelligence uses 150 billion parameters, but there are no specific metrics detailing how the other models Apple is developing measure up.

    Apple will use Gemini for functions related to summarizing and multi-step task planning and execution, but Apple models will also be used for some ‌Siri‌ features. The AI model that Google is developing for Apple will run on Apple’s Private Cloud Compute servers, so Google will not have access to Apple data.

Some small favors there.

    Apple weighed using its own AI models for the LLM version of ‌Siri‌, and also tested options from OpenAI and Anthropic, but it decided to go with Gemini after deciding Anthropic’s fees were too high. Apple already has a partnership with Google for search results, with Google paying Apple around $20 billion per year to be the default search engine option on Apple devices.

    Though Apple is planning to rely on Google AI for now, it plans to continue working on its own models and will transition to an in-house solution when its LLMs are capable enough. Apple is already working on a 1 trillion parameter cloud-based model that could be ready as soon as 2026. Apple is unlikely to publicize its arrangement with Google while it develops in-house models.

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Re: Apple To Replace Own Crappy AI With Google’s Crappy AI
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2025, 05:45:15 pm »
So if Apple stays true to form once they have developed out all they can of Googles AI while working on theirs 5he will drop Google?

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Re: Apple To Replace Own Crappy AI With Google’s Crappy AI
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2025, 06:18:19 pm »
Actually, I find I have the best luck with Gemini where AIs are concerned - Now that's going to be somewhat subjective... My conversations tend to center in the subjects of history and engineering ... Maybe not the same outcome for others.

And Gemini can speak redneck  :whistle: :shrug:

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Re: Apple To Replace Own Crappy AI With Google’s Crappy AI
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2025, 10:23:51 pm »
Actually, I find I have the best luck with Gemini where AIs are concerned - Now that's going to be somewhat subjective... My conversations tend to center in the subjects of history and engineering ... Maybe not the same outcome for others.

And Gemini can speak redneck  :whistle: :shrug:


I used Gemini to clean up a couple of old photos recently and it worked great for that.
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Re: Apple To Replace Own Crappy AI With Google’s Crappy AI
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2026, 10:03:12 am »
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