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Futurism By Victor Tangermann 11/7/2025

"It’s like taking a Maserati to the junkyard to get crushed because your driver’s license expired."

As the US federal government’s shutdown drags on, NASA staffers are raising concerns over a dozen buildings on its Goddard Space Flight Center’s (GSFC) main campus in Maryland being emptied without notice.

The campus serves as the headquarters for some extremely important missions, including NASA’s Hubble and James Webb space telescopes.

Highly specialized equipment is at risk of being thrown away like trash, according to internal communications reviewed by CNN. For instance, a building housing Goddard’s ElectroMagnetic Anechoic Chamber (GEMAC), an extremely important piece of equipment for testing spacecraft antennas, is being shuttered.

“It’s like taking a Maserati to the junkyard to get crushed because your driver’s license expired,” a source told CNN. “The GEMAC is fully operational and could go on for many more years to support in-house, out of house, and the industry (like it has for several decades).”

“Many NASA scientists are concerned they could permanently lose access to equipment and facilities they need to conduct planned NASA missions, throwing future space science research into peril,” international space science advocacy group Advancing Earth and Space Science wrote in a draft letter to legislators.

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So call the democrat party members you all  voted for and demand that they pass the continuing resolution to fund the government.  Pretty easy, even for a rocket scientist.
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Futurism By Victor Tangermann 11/7/2025

"It’s like taking a Maserati to the junkyard to get crushed because your driver’s license expired."

As the US federal government’s shutdown drags on, NASA staffers are raising concerns over a dozen buildings on its Goddard Space Flight Center’s (GSFC) main campus in Maryland being emptied without notice.

The campus serves as the headquarters for some extremely important missions, including NASA’s Hubble and James Webb space telescopes.

Highly specialized equipment is at risk of being thrown away like trash, according to internal communications reviewed by CNN. For instance, a building housing Goddard’s ElectroMagnetic Anechoic Chamber (GEMAC), an extremely important piece of equipment for testing spacecraft antennas, is being shuttered.

“It’s like taking a Maserati to the junkyard to get crushed because your driver’s license expired,” a source told CNN. “The GEMAC is fully operational and could go on for many more years to support in-house, out of house, and the industry (like it has for several decades).”

“Many NASA scientists are concerned they could permanently lose access to equipment and facilities they need to conduct planned NASA missions, throwing future space science research into peril,” international space science advocacy group Advancing Earth and Space Science wrote in a draft letter to legislators.

More: https://futurism.com/space/nasa-staff-throw-out-science-equipment-garbage

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The closures could impact the launch of the JWST’s successor, the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope, as well as its Dragonfly program, which is hoping to send a large helicopter to Saturn’s largest moon — concerns that a NASA spokesperson has since denied.

A NASA spokesperson told the broadcaster that the closures are all part of an existing “strategic consolidation” plan that shouldn’t impact existing projects.

Yet roughly 100 laboratories across 13 buildings of the campus’s more than 30 structures are being closed. Many of the affected buildings weren’t meant to be shut down until the early 2030s.

Despite the agency’s reassurances, it’s nonetheless concerning that the Trump administration is quietly dismantling the GSFC’s campus during an ongoing shutdown, yet another sign that the space agency is being taken apart piece by piece, even as large swathes of the government remain unfunded.

Morale has taken a huge hit as the agency continues to be put under immense pressure, with staffers worrying that Trump may make good on his threat of not paying them back for unpaid labor during the shutdown.

“Getting rid of Goddard removes the entire nation’s capability to build, develop and analyze data from space science satellites,” a Goddard engineer told CNN.

“It feels like an existential crisis; Goddard will either no longer exist at all or no longer exist the way it should,” the employee added.

Others say the rapid downscaling is not even saving the agency any money.

“I can’t understand why our management would want to internally sabotage our capabilities,” a source told the broadcaster. “They haven’t communicated any rationale other than they’re trying to save money, but the things they’re doing don’t actually seem to save money.”

NASA’s fate remains in the balance. Experts have long warned that the White House’s 2026 budget proposal for the agency could deal it a devastating blow, slashing its science funding by more than half. Goddard’s science staff could be reduced by 42 percent, the American Astronomical Society warned in June.

The Planetary Society has called the proposed budget “nothing short of an extinction-level event for space science and exploration in the United States.”

While the budget hasn’t technically passed, NASA insiders are worried the Trump administration is moving forward with its plan anyway. An agency spokesperson told CNN that NASA is “planning for multiple FY26 scenarios,” but will still “continue to comply with the law.”
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Looks like when 47's move to eliminate NASA in the budget failed, he's using the shutdown to achieve his goal of closing NASA and US Space programs for good.

China is all smiles.
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Perhaps some enterprising folks can pick up this equipment at the GSA auction and offer a service or services to the industries that are taking space commercial.
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Perhaps some enterprising folks can pick up this equipment at the GSA auction and offer a service or services to the industries that are taking space commercial.

Commercial companies are not interested in raw science. But China, Russia, the EU, & India's government space science entities might be interested, since the US is apparently closing out on science [ Science? Who needs it? ].
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Commercial companies are not interested in raw science. But China, Russia, the EU, & India's government space science entities might be interested, since the US is apparently closing out on science [ Science? Who needs it? ].
I'm thinking the whole antenna setup could have commercial applications just to make sure their new design developments work. Other (not knowing what's up for sale) devices could well have value, too.

If all else fails, perhaps the scientists could pool resources to acquire the equipment they find most important to save. Better under a sheet in a storage unit than scrapped.
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I'm thinking the whole antenna setup could have commercial applications just to make sure their new design developments work. Other (not knowing what's up for sale) devices could well have value, too.

If all else fails, perhaps the scientists could pool resources to acquire the equipment they find most important to save. Better under a sheet in a storage unit than scrapped.

Instruments will doubtlessly be broken up for valuable metals - scientists do not have spare millions/billions lying around to buy the equipment.

This move by 47 will firmly set the USA on an irreversible course toward becoming just another 3rd world country. Excellence in science is dead.

Even 0bama/Biden was not this anti-science.
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Instruments will doubtlessly be broken up for valuable metals - scientists do not have spare millions/billions lying around to buy the equipment.

This move by 47 will firmly set the USA on an irreversible course toward becoming just another 3rd world country. Excellence in science is dead.

Even 0bama/Biden was not this anti-science.
It might not take a lot to buy it. GSA auctions sometimes let stuff go insanely cheap compared to the purchase price.
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No one on this thread seems to dispute my premise: Looks like when 47's move to eliminate NASA in the budget failed, he's using the shutdown to achieve his goal of closing NASA and US Space programs for good.

Only the price of selling the multi-million, multi-billion dollar instruments seems to be a concern.
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Perhaps some enterprising folks can pick up this equipment at the GSA auction and offer a service or services to the industries that are taking space commercial.
Elon should buy it.

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Looks like when 47's move to eliminate NASA in the budget failed, he's using the shutdown to achieve his goal of closing NASA and US Space programs for good.

China is all smiles.

NASA went woke and they care far more about DEI than they do about their original mission.

Myself, I say dissolve it and send part of the mission to the US Space Force and privatize the rest.
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Elon should buy it.

Elon like all private space companies had no interest in raw science - there is no profit in it.
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NASA went woke and they care far more about DEI than they do about their original mission.

Myself, I say dissolve it and send part of the mission to the US Space Force and privatize the rest.

Dissolving NASA leaves the Moon to China. With all its minerals etc., thus the Moon will become a Chinese colony dominating the Earth. Militarily, the Chinese colony at the Lunar South Pole will be armed to the teeth and, having successfully built their planned mass driver, be able to send a rock to any place on Earth ... at 18,000 mph.

Are you sure that's what you wish for?

Jared Isaacman will be the next Administrator, far better than the talk show host currently holding the position, and far better than any previous admin. There will be no DEI or muslim outreach.

No private space company does pure scientific research - there is no money in it. The US Space Force is largely a joke at present. They have no space assets - those that exist belong to the USAF.
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Commercial companies are not interested in raw science. But China, Russia, the EU, & India's government space science entities might be interested, since the US is apparently closing out on science [ Science? Who needs it? ].

From what I read in the article, this isn't about "raw science," but it's about "scientific equipment."
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From what I read in the article, this isn't about "raw science," but it's about "scientific equipment."

The scientific equipment in question is used for raw science projects to make the instruments needed, to interpret results, design experiments, etc. It is the raw science part of NASA that 47 is trying to close down.

Will Hubble, James Webb, Parker Solar probe and all the others be able to return any data/images once 47 succeeds?

Will all the planned probes and experiments be junked at the cost of billions already spent?

How long before 47 closes the rest of NASA?
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The scientific equipment in question is used for raw science projects to make the instruments needed, to interpret results, design experiments, etc. It is the raw science part of NASA that 47 is trying to close down.

Will Hubble, James Webb, Parker Solar probe and all the others be able to return any data/images once 47 succeeds?

Will all the planned probes and experiments be junked at the cost of billions already spent?

How long before 47 closes the rest of NASA?

I don't think I agree that Trump's plan is to "eliminate" NASA.  It needs to align itself to putting people, satellites and probes in space.  NASA needs to stop wasting resources on DEI and Moslem outreach.
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I don't think I agree that Trump's plan is to "eliminate" NASA.  It needs to align itself to putting people, satellites and probes in space.  NASA needs to stop wasting resources on DEI and Moslem outreach.

NASA needs to stop wasting resources on DEI and Moslem outreach, both of which are no longer part of NASA. Muslim outreach ended with 45, and DEI with Duffy.
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Way back in the day... 35-40 years ago I went to the KSC with a few friends in a pick up truck and bought a computer tower from their old equipment storage room. Paid like $40 for it.

It took five of us to carry it to the truck and bring in to the garage. We took the reel to reel, modified the head and off we went recording.

it looked like the ones in this picture.

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Way back in the day... 35-40 years ago I went to the KSC with a few friends in a pick up truck and bought a computer terminal from their old equipment storage room Pa

Benefit of living near the Space Coast.  I visited KSP as a young teenager when Apollo 13 had been rolled out to the launch pad.  Impressive sight for a kid!
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