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Can This Nation Be Saved? By J.B. Shurk
« on: September 28, 2025, 12:36:52 pm »
September 28, 2025
Can This Nation Be Saved?
By J.B. Shurk

How does America survive when its citizens belong to two divided camps that believe fundamentally incompatible things? 

Over the last century, there has been a trend to establish “truth and reconciliation commissions” in countries emerging from periods of political terrorism, totalitarianism, or civil war.  The idea is to acknowledge the crimes and atrocities that past governments officially sanctioned and to recognize the harms inflicted upon their victims.  As is often the case when governments “disappear” citizens or throw them in gulags for their politically incorrect thoughts, it is the not knowing that haunts society.  Survivors bereft of answers are left with inconsolable anguish.  The commissions are often used as a first step toward healing grave national trauma.

It is no surprise that these commissions generally reflect the worldviews of the prevailing government that forms them.  Communist governments are quick to label past “right-wing” officials as “murderers” while memorializing their own murderers as “patriots,” “civil rights heroes,” or “noble revolutionaries.”  Politically correct governments in the West today often describe their countries’ founders and explorers as “racists,” “white supremacists,” “imperialists,” and perpetrators of “genocide.”  No doubt the people alive during these consequential periods of history would take exception to the way they are remembered, but descendants — particularly descendants in possession of political power — maintain at least a temporary monopoly over the historical record.

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Re: Can This Nation Be Saved? By J.B. Shurk
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2025, 06:19:50 pm »
I tried reading this article.
He talks much and says nothing.

So I'll answer the question.
"Can This Nation Be Saved?"

I'd like to think that it could.
But no, it probably CAN'T be "saved".

Not the United States founded by Christian-thinking white MEN from Western Europe in 1776.
That nation is gone, and something else has replaced it (or much of it) today.
What those men thought and believed has become anathema to at least 30-35% of the population living here today. Perhaps even a higher number than that.

To "save what it is now" would require nothing less than all-out civil war.
Hopefully the red states would win.
The blue states will have to be re-conquered and then occupied a la Reconstruction after the last civil war.

A more pertinent question might be:
What portion of the country today can be saved?
What parts could be let go?

Please show me where I'm wrong.

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Re: Can This Nation Be Saved? By J.B. Shurk
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2025, 08:00:54 pm »
I tried reading this article.
He talks much and says nothing.

So I'll answer the question.
"Can This Nation Be Saved?"

I'd like to think that it could.
But no, it probably CAN'T be "saved".

Not the United States founded by Christian-thinking white MEN from Western Europe in 1776.
That nation is gone, and something else has replaced it (or much of it) today.

What those men thought and believed has become anathema to at least 30-35% of the population living here today. Perhaps even a higher number than that.

To "save what it is now" would require nothing less than all-out civil war.
Hopefully the red states would win.
The blue states will have to be re-conquered and then occupied a la Reconstruction after the last civil war.

A more pertinent question might be:
What portion of the country today can be saved?
What parts could be let go?

Please show me where I'm wrong.

The truth is that the Republic you speak of died on March 4, 1860 and was replaced with the mercantile empire we now have.

Before the war it was always the United States *are*, after the war it was the United States is... it made us an is.

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Re: Can This Nation Be Saved? By J.B. Shurk
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2025, 08:03:26 pm »
Yes. But probably it must be stripped of all its wealth and return to its God.

Which is precisely where it is going.

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Re: Can This Nation Be Saved? By J.B. Shurk
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2025, 09:29:08 pm »
The truth is that the Republic you speak of died on March 4, 1860 and was replaced with the mercantile empire we now have.

Before the war it was always the United States *are*, after the war it was the United States is... it made us an is.

Shelby Foote

Yep. Two letters spelled out the difference, when it went from "These United States" to "The United States".
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Re: Can This Nation Be Saved? By J.B. Shurk
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2025, 11:22:01 pm »
Any nation that continues to run annual budget deficits for 68 consecutive years cannot be saved.
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