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Alligator Alcatraz Is A New Kind Of Immigration Jail — And It’s Multiplying
« on: September 27, 2025, 02:40:12 pm »
Alligator Alcatraz Is A New Kind Of Immigration Jail — And It’s Multiplying
 
This summer, attorneys working with detainees at the “Alligator Alcatraz” immigration jail noticed a pattern: They would schedule in-person or video conference visits with clients who were stuck in the mysterious facility, only for the facility to cancel the appointments at the last minute because authorities had transferred their clients elsewhere.
 
What might have looked like a victory — getting people out of a hastily constructed jail already known for its poor conditions and chainlink cages — instead felt ominous.
 

In August, for example, one attorney’s five-hour block of meetings was canceled the night before, despite only being scheduled two days earlier. Authorities had released all 10 people the lawyer was supposed to talk to. They “are no longer here,” a contractor emailed attorney Troy Elder, who directs the detention program at Americans for Immigrant Justice. (The nonprofit firm has a hotline for people seeking legal assistance.)

The following week, Elder was informed that all 21 detainees he’d planned to speak to via videoconference that day had also been transferred. The news came in an email sent two hours after the meetings had been scheduled to start.

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Re: Alligator Alcatraz Is A New Kind Of Immigration Jail — And It’s Multiplying
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2025, 02:40:29 pm »
 I don't believe in four years HuffPo had as much negative to say about Biden as they have in this one article about the Trump administration.
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Re: Alligator Alcatraz Is A New Kind Of Immigration Jail — And It’s Multiplying
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2025, 03:17:28 pm »
If I was POTUS, I'd turn the old Alcatraz into the Antifa Alcatraz.

And not upgrade it as we fill it.
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Re: Alligator Alcatraz Is A New Kind Of Immigration Jail — And It’s Multiplying
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2025, 07:16:08 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on September 27, 2025, 03:17:28 pm
If I was POTUS, I'd turn the old Alcatraz into the Antifa Alcatraz.

And not upgrade it as we fill it.
Install a drawbridge on the road in, too.
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Re: Alligator Alcatraz Is A New Kind Of Immigration Jail — And It’s Multiplying
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2025, 08:00:50 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 27, 2025, 07:16:08 pm
Install a drawbridge on the road in, too.

What road?

As an aside, this Huff Post article is up to the level of The Atlantic.
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Re: Alligator Alcatraz Is A New Kind Of Immigration Jail — And It’s Multiplying
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2025, 08:09:29 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 27, 2025, 08:00:50 pm
What road?

As an aside, this Huff Post article is up to the level of The Atlantic.
According to my latest web search, there is one (and only one) road to the facility.

A drawbridge would enable leaving a moat for the 'guards' to encircle it, and anyone wishing to violate that perimeter would have to swim for it...
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Re: Alligator Alcatraz Is A New Kind Of Immigration Jail — And It’s Multiplying
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2025, 08:12:24 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 27, 2025, 08:09:29 pm
According to my latest web search, there is one (and only one) road to the facility.

A drawbridge would enable leaving a moat for the 'guards' to encircle it, and anyone wishing to violate that perimeter would have to swim for it...

I thought we were talking about Alcatraz, in San Francisco....sorry....
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Re: Alligator Alcatraz Is A New Kind Of Immigration Jail — And It’s Multiplying
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2025, 06:49:32 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 27, 2025, 08:12:24 pm
I thought we were talking about Alcatraz, in San Francisco....sorry....
No, the currents and runoff from the streets are likely to kill anyone trying to escape from there.
I was thinking about the one in Florida. Hey, gators gotta eat, too!
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Re: Alligator Alcatraz Is A New Kind Of Immigration Jail — And It’s Multiplying
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2025, 11:52:48 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 28, 2025, 06:49:32 am
No, the currents and runoff from the streets are likely to kill anyone trying to escape from there.
I was thinking about the one in Florida. Hey, gators gotta eat, too!
And the pythons, don’t forget them, they get hungry too!
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